🥇 BANNER Does Coral beep? yes, when its full of coins!!!

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Could'nt work out why this lump of coral (in 2 ft of water) at the beach kept "hitting"?

brought it home and it started to fall apart in my bag - WOW!!!

just need to identify them and work out how to save / clean them???

any ideas???

thanks!!


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YOU are invited to my party on my new Super Yacht..... :occasion14:

Just don't shipwreck it, otherwise someone might be salvaging it in another 300 years! I can see the Headlines now "Super Yacht that shipwrecked in 2014 found with thousands of 600 year old Spanish Coins onboard". LOL!!!!


Frank
 

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Just don't shipwreck it, otherwise someone might be salvaging it in another 300 years! I can see the Headlines now "Super Yacht that shipwrecked in 2014 found with thousands of 600 year old Spanish Coins onboard". LOL!!!!


Frank


And a load of drunken TN-ers on board too..... :occasion14:
 

"the old argument that Spain never abandoned the wreck because they did not know where to look." That is one of the stupidist things I've heard to get around the law and claim something that someone else has found! If Spain was not making an ongoing attempt to find a ship then it's abandoned! "didn't know where to look" right! Because it was lost! If things like this hold up in court, sheesh! Seems like in America everyone is always trying to get there hand in your pocket if you come into any monetary prosperity. At least in England you get to keep your finds or be paid the fair value for it.
I am glad that I found this Thread and may still have time to offer some advice! IMHO, you should seriously and quickly seek out some legal advice, the laws concerning salvaging a shipwreck, filing a claim on the wreck as an unknown (name to be determined later) to secure the soul rights to it's salvage from the beaches out to a mile or even more if you think it is needed and look into security to protect the wreck, what it was carrying and the salvage operation. I spent 6 years in Key West with my job and knew Mel Fisher personally as well as his wife and one of his underwater salvage photographers (sold him my' maroon/red 1977 Pontiac Grand Prix). If you have been in contact with anyone with the Mel Fisher Maritime Museum or their' salvage operations, I can't understand why they would not advise you of doing these things. If you don't, a Salvage Company can come in, file claims and take everything right out from under you! The next thing you have to worry about is when the wreck is identified, is whether or not Spain will file a claim demanding that everything that was found concerning the shipwreck be returned to them, with the old argument that Spain never abandoned the wreck because they did not know where to look.

Anyway, super nice find, congrats on the Banner and I hope that you are able to salvage and keep or sell the entire contents of the wreck!


Frank
 

This weekend should tell - although I have booked in my PADI so I can explore for the next few months (still have the issue of finding a dive buddy I can trust)
I plan to set me underwater camera to "timer" and lower it on a weighted line to try to find this "item" or anything else down there!

Any other suggestions??
 

This weekend should tell - although I have booked in my PADI so I can explore for the next few months (still have the issue of finding a dive buddy I can trust)
I plan to set me underwater camera to "timer" and lower it on a weighted line to try to find this "item" or anything else down there!

Any other suggestions??

Good luck and be careful not to draw too much attention! Oh, if you just had a magnetometer or a really good underwater metal detector! A cannon with identifiable markings could lead to the origin of the ship and who knows, maybe the name of the ship. Due to the weight of cannons, they don't move very well on the sea floor even during hurricanes, so if you find more than one, then you may be on top of the shipwreck and the Mother lode.

Oh and I almost forgot, if you haven't already metal detected from the water's edge to several hundred yards inland, don't neglect to do so! In the Florida Keys, pieces of eight coins from a shipwreck on the Atlantic side were moved by the many hurricanes over 300 years and blown into and across the sand dunes and some ended up on (that should be in, right?) the sea floor on the Gulf side. A friend found 2 pieces of eight (don't remember the denomination) at this spot, then later working with a partner, they found over thirty 1, 2, 4 and 8 Reale pieces on their first trip together. They found more on another trip but then my friend found that his partner was sneaking back at night, digging more pieces of eight and had totally destroyed the Sea Oats in the sand dunes. Due to this, it wasn't long before the authorities put the site off-limits.


Frank
 

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Good luck and be careful not to draw too much attention! Oh, if you just had a magnetometer or a really good underwater metal detector! A cannon with identifiable markings could lead to the origin of the ship and who knows, maybe the name of the ship. Due to the weight of cannons, they don't move very well on the sea floor even during hurricanes, so if you find more than one, then you may be on top of the shipwreck and the Mother lode.

Oh and I almost forgot, if you haven't already metal detected from the water's edge to several hundred yards inland, don't neglect to do so! In the Florida Keys, pieces of eight coins from a shipwreck on the Atlantic side were moved by the many hurricanes over 300 years and blown into and across the sand dunes and some ended up on (that should be in, right?) the sea floor on the Gulf side. A friend found 2 pieces of eight (don't remember the denomination) at this spot, then later working with a partner, they found over thirty 1, 2, 4 and 8 Reale pieces on their first trip together. They found more on another trip but then my friend found that his partner was sneaking back at night, digging more pieces of eight and had totally destroyed the Sea Oats in the sand dunes. Due to this, it wasn't long before the authorities put the site off-limits.


Frank

Thanks frank!!!!
 

This weekend should tell - although I have booked in my PADI so I can explore for the next few months (still have the issue of finding a dive buddy I can trust)
I plan to set me underwater camera to "timer" and lower it on a weighted line to try to find this "item" or anything else down there!

Any other suggestions??

If it's not someone that you know well, then you can't trust them. Sometimes even people you know well will screw you over. Not trying to sound negative but you can't be too careful. I don't know anything about making claim to a shipwreck sight but it would be great if you could get the rights to it then when you find someone you feel is trustworthy you have them sign a confidentiality agreement and put it in a contract how the finds are divided. I've been a certified diver since 1981 and I'm trustworthy :skullflag::laughing7:. Too bad I'm so far away.
 

If it's not someone that you know well, then you can't trust them. Sometimes even people you know well will screw you over. Not trying to sound negative but you can't be too careful. I don't know anything about making claim to a shipwreck sight but it would be great if you could get the rights to it then when you find someone you feel is trustworthy you have them sign a confidentiality agreement and put it in a contract how the finds are divided. I've been a certified diver since 1981 and I'm trustworthy :skullflag::laughing7:. Too bad I'm so far away.

maybe we need a dive consortium!!! :hello:
 

[video=vimeo;25522395]http://vimeo.com/25522395[/video]

Around 10 0r 11 minutes in ....great video similar coins
 

Have not been back to the site too much, as I don't want to draw attention to it - its a very small island that no one has reason to go to (not god fishing, quite barren, not tourist activities, rocky with little beach etc)
I have pulled up some musket and flintlock pistols parts, as well as more shot and canon balls, plus a few items I don't want to reveal just yet.
I have started plotting these finds on a GPS, and have mapped on Google Earth, a distinctive "line" of finds, heading in a curve toward a small lagoon / bay.

In talking to the old locals etc, one or two said they used to swim there as kids while there fathers were fishing and they talk of seeing "the big occurs"......

(I have not spelt that right, its a creole word which roughly translates into PEN*S) but asking others it seems they have seen something man-made on the sea bed but cant say what it is.

Its too deep for me to snorkel or free dive, and I need to get out there without drawing attention to it, once I get my PADI this month.

I'm thinking its a canon.

Old fisherman dont speak Creole in the BVI ..someone is pulling your tail. If the island is south the guy quoting earlier is right tropical storm season is approaching, maybe an odd hurricane can cover it all up again. HH
 

[video=vimeo;25522395]http://vimeo.com/25522395[/video]

Around 10 0r 11 minutes in ....great video similar coins

That's spooky, really spooky!!
thanks for adding it! some really cool finds!!

I can tell from the accents and clothing this is probably from the UK in the late 70's / early 80's??

cool stuff!!
 

LOL!!! I ain't much for diving but I don't mind getting my' a$% wet! Aarrgh me matey.:icon_pirat::skullflag:


Frank

You can stay on board and count the coins - and chill the beer!
 

YOU are invited to my party on my new Super Yacht..... :occasion14:

I will take you up on that, first round on me :) Oh btw did I mention I am a certified PADI Search and Recovery expert diver ?
 

I will take you up on that, first round on me :) Oh btw did I mention I am a certified PADI Search and Recovery expert diver ?

Now suddenly EVERYONES a diver... :laughing7:

Ok, Ok,... your in the consortium too..... :wink:

:tchest:
 

Now suddenly EVERYONES a diver... :laughing7:

Ok, Ok,... your in the consortium too..... :wink:

:tchest:

Well I been a treasure hunter for years.. just got into the metal detecting portion of it.. And no I am not a "hoarder" I am an Expert Collector
 

OK -

so I had planned to get out this weekend with my underwater camera to find "items" on the seabed....

but did not realize that some people reading these posts are on my doorstep (yes, YOU in the crummy room!)

So, I will be getting drunk this weekend in Trellis Bay (as its the full moon) and I'll head out soon, without announcing it!!

in the meantime... I think I will hold onto my "first" clump...

Cube Acrylic Coin Paperweight Factory, View Cube Paperweight, TIANMA Product Details from Shenzhen Tianma Arts & Crafts Co., Ltd. on Alibaba.com

what do you think?

UPDATES TO FOLLOW.......
 

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