Documented evidence that Waltz worked at (or for) the Vulture Mine?

[azdave35]

Well in this case it’s mostly likely that it is. So how do you prove it, You match which color triangle contains it in the Matchbox. Then my ore.

If they match, Is it a slam dunk, Not Quit, There’s no proof that the Matchbox contains Dutchman’s ore. There would have to be something that says without a shadow of a doubt this is Waltz’s mine at the mine.

I’ve come to far to get it Wrong

Babymick1

provide a sample of your ore to be tested mick

 

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[txtea]

Okay I will humor you.

Exactly what links the Peralta stone maps with the lost gold mine of Jacob Waltz?

Fantasy?

 

[deducer]

Okay I will humor you.

Exactly what links the Peralta stone maps with the lost gold mine of Jacob Waltz?

Fantasy?

Bad documentaries.. filmmakers that don't do their homework.

 

[wrmickel1]

you wont get an answer on what links the stone maps to waltz...i've asked this a few times and they get real quiet..

location

wrmickel1

 

[azdave35]

location

wrmickel1

like i said...real quiet

 

[azdave35]

location

wrmickel1

 

[wrmickel1]

Okay I will humor you.

Exactly what links the Peralta stone maps with the lost gold mine of Jacob Waltz?

What exactly did Waltz ever say about stone maps? I want the sources too.

Thanks in advance. Still far from convinced there is any Telluride in that matchbox. Also I would point out that I am not a geologist or assayer. You want a comparison to really get a serious examination done of your ore, get a real geologist. I am just a prospector and an AMATEUR at geology, I could easily be fooled.

Oroblanco

Waltz never new of the maps, Waltz found the mine.
The Stones come along in 1947 or so. That’s a Hugh time gap.
Then you refute the evidence submitted by Dr. Glover.
Shame on you.

let me guide you, All the inlays in White Quarts are from California
The Gold Box is stock parts for Levi Company
And by Dave’s word the Triangle inlays are Dutchman’s ore.
Except the White ones there leftovers form the box inlays.

But you know all that. Your pretty Smart. The edge on the truth
I have no friends in the Game, You have your Heart to close to the Game
So you judge things with denial.

babymick1

 

[Oroblanco]

Oroblanco

Waltz never new of the maps, Waltz found the mine.
The Stones come along in 1947 or so. That’s a Hugh time gap.
Then you refute the evidence submitted by Dr. Glover.
Shame on you.

let me guide you, All the inlays in White Quarts are from California
The Gold Box is stock parts for Levi Company
And by Dave’s word the Triangle inlays are Dutchman’s ore.
Except the White ones there leftovers form the box inlays.

But you know all that. Your pretty Smart. The edge on the truth
I have no friends in the Game, You have your Heart to close to the Game
So you judge things with denial.

babymick1

You appear to be trying to judge my interest and wishes etc. I don't judge things with denial, but you are way off the mark there.

You answered with a single word first "location" - that is just way too thin Mick. You would need to prove you have found the gold mine of Jacob Waltz and that the Peralta stone maps lead to it.

You are also just saying your opinion about the gold ore in the matchbox. The documentation we have indicates that Dick Holmes obtained the gold ore from Jacob Waltz and paid for it to be made into the matchbox, cuff links, tie tack etc. Holmes would have noticed immediately if the jewelers had substituted some other ore into the items. Your tale of where the ore originated has no backing only your say-so. I get it, you don't like it that the matchbox seems to be a major obstacle to your claim that you found the LDM. Sorry but too many other guys (and gals) have been claiming they found the LDM and long before you did. It is going to take some pretty solid proof.

On the other hand, you still have not answered my question - does it really matter what name your mine is called, if you are getting good gold out of it? I don't understand what difference it makes what the name of the mine is.

Thanks for the very kind words too - however undeserved. I must be the biggest dummy around here, everyone tells me I have it all wrong!

Side thing here but my wife and I once found a rather neat old mine, that I believe is the once famous Lost Arch mine. It had MOST of the clues to fit, but there was no giant Saguaro anywhere in sight, and the 'arch' was a natural stone arch, not one made from adobe, although there was the remains of a two room STONE cabin as well. I think it is the lost Arch and can't prove it beyond all doubt - if no one else agrees it is no skin off my hind parts, I still get the gold from it. This is why I keep asking you why it seems to be SO important to you, that we have to believe you have found the LDM? Thanks in advance,

Oroblanco



PS to Dave - "like" was not a strong enough comment on your post - hope no one gets offended if I share this:

 

[wrmickel1]

like i said...real quiet

Dave

I’m not gonna say the location, And I’m not gonna say leans me towards the likelihood that this may be Waltz’s mine.
I’m not Finnish with that part. So I’m not swayed one way or the other yet. I’m at like 50/50.

Truthfully I would have never bothered with the Waltz thing till you said what Clay was looking For, Then it hit me like a hammer, Bicknell said Julia camped at the face of the Superstition Mountain because they were tired and hot. That’s where she was told to go, I think Clay knows that just as well. Except he never saw the rock shaped like a man Standing.

Babymick1

 

[Oroblanco]

Dave

I’m not gonna say the location, And I’m not gonna say leans me towards the likelihood that this may be Waltz’s mine.
I’m not Finnish with that part. So I’m not swayed one way or the other yet. I’m at like 50/50.

Truthfully I would have never bothered with the Waltz thing till you said what Clay was looking For, Then it hit me like a hammer, Bicknell said Julia camped at the face of the Superstition Mountain because they were tired and hot. That’s where she was told to go, I think Clay knows that just as well. Except he never saw the rock shaped like a man Standing.

Babymick1

When did Clay state that he never saw the rock shaped like a man standing?

 

[wrmickel1]

You appear to be trying to judge my interest and wishes etc. I don't judge things with denial, but you are way off the mark there.

You answered with a single word first "location" - that is just way too thin Mick. You would need to prove you have found the gold mine of Jacob Waltz and that the Peralta stone maps lead to it.

You are also just saying your opinion about the gold ore in the matchbox. The documentation we have indicates that Dick Holmes obtained the gold ore from Jacob Waltz and paid for it to be made into the matchbox, cuff links, tie tack etc. Holmes would have noticed immediately if the jewelers had substituted some other ore into the items. Your tale of where the ore originated has no backing only your say-so. I get it, you don't like it that the matchbox seems to be a major obstacle to your claim that you found the LDM. Sorry but too many other guys (and gals) have been claiming they found the LDM and long before you did. It is going to take some pretty solid proof.

On the other hand, you still have not answered my question - does it really matter what name your mine is called, if you are getting good gold out of it? I don't understand what difference it makes what the name of the mine is.

Thanks for the very kind words too - however undeserved. I must be the biggest dummy around here, everyone tells me I have it all wrong!

Side thing here but my wife and I once found a rather neat old mine, that I believe is the once famous Lost Arch mine. It had MOST of the clues to fit, but there was no giant Saguaro anywhere in sight, and the 'arch' was a natural stone arch, not one made from adobe, although there was the remains of a two room STONE cabin as well. I think it is the lost Arch and can't prove it beyond all doubt - if no one else agrees it is no skin off my hind parts, I still get the gold from it. This is why I keep asking you why it seems to be SO important to you, that we have to believe you have found the LDM? Thanks in advance,

Oroblanco



PS to Dave - "like" was not a strong enough comment on your post - hope no one gets offended if I share this:

Oroblanco

Because it’s Huge, Nothing any body ever envisioned it’s down right Cool. Something so neat it should be shared.
And that’s Exactly what I’m gonna do.

Yeah I know you’ll all say Crazy

But in the end you all will get to follow the trail, see the Smelter, See the Priest and Finnish with the Heart!

So why not take the Credit, 10 years I’ve earned it. More so then the old timers that cheated themselves into believing the Stones are Fake.

Sincerely Bilnd Bowman, I mean Babymick1

 

[azdave35]

Dave

I’m not gonna say the location, And I’m not gonna say leans me towards the likelihood that this may be Waltz’s mine.
I’m not Finnish with that part. So I’m not swayed one way or the other yet. I’m at like 50/50.

Truthfully I would have never bothered with the Waltz thing till you said what Clay was looking For, Then it hit me like a hammer, Bicknell said Julia camped at the face of the Superstition Mountain because they were tired and hot. That’s where she was told to go, I think Clay knows that just as well. Except he never saw the rock shaped like a man Standing.

Babymick1

you hitting the bottle heavy tonight mick?

 

[Oroblanco]

you hitting the bottle heavy tonight mick?

Oh my gawd that nearly caused a double-nostril coffee explosion! I have GOT to learn to be careful when reading your posts DAVE! Thanks I needed the giggles!

 

[wrmickel1]

When did Clay state that he never saw the rock shaped like a man standing?

Never did that I know of, But I never seen anyone at the mine, So I figured he Didn’t. Or he would have saw me.

Babymick1 ps let clay know that clue is True, One Dutchman’s Clue, confirmed. Thanks Oro

 

[Oroblanco]

Never did that I know of, But I never seen anyone at the mine, So I figured he Didn’t. Or he would have saw me.

Babymick1 ps let clay know that clue is True, One Dutchman’s Clue, confirmed. Thanks Oro

I will be pretty lucky if I get to see Clay this fall, but I will be sure to tell him your message.

By the way amigo, I personally know Blindbowman have met him in person, and you sir are NO Blindbowman.

 

[azdave35]

Oh my gawd that nearly caused a double-nostril coffee explosion! I have GOT to learn to be careful when reading your posts DAVE! Thanks I needed the giggles!

happy to be of service roy

 

[wrmickel1]

you hitting the bottle heavy tonight mick?

Just got off Work, Shipped out 1.5 million pounds of Bk Wendy’s Sonic steak and shake DQ Texas Roadhouse And Hardee’s fry’s

So no booze

I don’t drink Dave, But I would have a beer with you and the others on here.

Maybe Someday Babymick1

 

[azdave35]

Just got off Work, Shipped out 1.5 million pounds of Bk Wendy’s Sonic steak and shake DQ Texas Roadhouse And Hardee’s fry’s

So no booze

I don’t drink Dave, But I would have a beer with you and the others on here.

Maybe Someday Babymick1

maybe in october

 

[wrmickel1]

I will be pretty lucky if I get to see Clay this fall, but I will be sure to tell him your message.

By the way amigo, I personally know Blindbowman have met him in person, and you sir are NO Blindbowman.

I’ll take that as a Compliment Sir.

babymick1

 

[azdave35]

7 years and 91 posts and still nobody has answered pauls original question...does anyone have proof that waltz ever worked at the vulture mine?