Do you have PROOF of a KGC treasure?

[Timberwolf]

Jamie,

Thanks for the graphic...that's interesting.
But no, I have not found anything like that.

I have not read any of Howk's writings, so I do not know anything about him.
From what you and Ron have posted, I take it that he was not very honest.

I have only heard from one source, that a treasure similar to your graphic, has been recovered.
The other recoveries that I am familiar with have all been on a smaller scale.
This is why I posed my question.

To me, finding a few gold bars would be a wonderful thing.

Let's face it...if you find some gold bars, who cares weather it was the KGC, or the Spanish that put them down.
The fact that you found them and that they are yours, should be good.

Tom

 

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[Shortstack]

Maybe this will answer the question. Have any of you found something like this?

.......................and be STUPID enough to advertise it??

 

[Timberwolf]

Sorry Texas Jay but Pastore isn't digging anything up. I'd like to be proved wrong but it was obvious that guy is greatly lacking in many ways. This is where Alechydell and I completely agree.
Boattow

I agree.

TW

 

[Texas Jay]

Guys, as I've said before, I don't need any more proof of the existence of these KGC depositories or the marker caches for that matter and I don't care to try to convince the unbelievers or pretending unbelievers. I know the location of one KGC depository and the probable locations of two more. If I wanted to, which I don't, I could take anyone with an open mind and some basic knowledge of the Knights and the Golden Circle to this one certain location and prove to them that it is there and that marker caches have been recovered in years past. So whether or not Pastore is successful, it will not change what I know is true.
~Texas Jay

 

[BoggyBottomJay]

Have you ever heard of General Stand Watie, C.S.A. who was the only Native American general in either army? Cherokee Mounted Rifles?
~Texas Jay

Whats that got to do with KGC treasure? I believe the question as always is where's the proof?

 

[okietreasurehunter]

You won't get any real proof of a KGC cache. You will get vague references and books to read, but no real proof. They will tell you that they know where a cache is, but for some reason they can't recover it, or it was removed years ago. blah,blah,blah............

 

[alec]

Sorry Texas Jay but Pastore isn't digging anything up. I'd like to be proved wrong but it was obvious that guy is greatly lacking in many ways. This is where Alechydell and I completely agree.
Boattow

Holy crap Hoss, we agree on something??

 

[Timberwolf]

Sorry Texas Jay but Pastore isn't digging anything up. I'd like to be proved wrong but it was obvious that guy is greatly lacking in many ways. This is where Alechydell and I completely agree.
Boattow

Holy crap Hoss, we agree on something??

This can only mean one thing...the end really IS near.

TW

 

[alec]

 

[BoggyBottomJay]

Once again thanks to TEXAS Jay the thread is way of topic. So once again DO YOU HAVE PROOF OF A KGC TREASURE.

 

[Texas Jay]

BoggyBottom, if I do have or when I ever have proof of a "KGC treasure", you will be probably never know. Your best hope of being humiliated publicly on this forum rests with Pastore as he wishes to make his KGC finds public knowledge. I don't share his wish regarding my treasure finds. Like I've said here many times before, I have nothing I have to prove to you or your scoffer friends.
~Texas Jay
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bloodybillandersonmystery

 

[alec]

Scoffer friend, I must be one of those!

I don't think Boggy will ever have to worry about being humiliated publicly on this forum (or any where else for that matter) by anyone finding a KGC vault, especially by Pastore. Pastore couldn't find his ass with both hands! I'm surprised he could even find the "treasures" he planted for his bogus TV show.

 

[Texas Jay]

"Alec": How long before Pastore dug up the "paycheck cache" did he bury it and the thick roots they had to cut through to get to the coins? It must have taken several years for the roots to grow to that thickness so you are saying that Pastore planted the roots on top of the broken jar of coins or that he buried the coins many years previous to re-finding them, giving the thick roots time to grow over it? Did it take you two full months of working with Pastore to come to your conclusions?
~Texas Jay
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bloodybillandersonmystery

 

[BoggyBottomJay]

"Alec": How long before Pastore dug up the "paycheck cache" did he bury it and the thick roots they had to cut through to get to the coins? It must have taken several years for the roots to grow to that thickness so you are saying that Pastore planted the roots on top of the broken jar of coins or that he buried the coins many years previous to re-finding them, giving the thick roots time to grow over it? Did it take you two full months of working with Pastore to come to your conclusions?
~Texas Jay
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bloodybillandersonmystery

Texas Jay if I was gonna make a spoof treasure cache to take you to and dig up in front of you dont you think I would dig the hole of to the side and down at a angle. Make the hole the size of the jar and when you dig straight down over the top and no roots would look like they had been disturbed. Just because Pastore out smarted you dont blame the rest of us.

 

[okietreasurehunter]

It might just be me but it looked like they were digging in sand and I didn't notice any "thick" roots. In my humble opinion he did a poor job of planting the cache. There were too many issues with the jar and coins.

 

[Texas Jay]

okie, I suggest you and the others take another look at the "Jesse James' Hidden Treasure" program. Maybe you will see what most of us clearly saw when we watched it.
~Texas Jay

 

[Hoss KGC]

I'm afraid I'd have to agree with the "scoffers" on this one. This looked fake to me on several accounts. When he looked at the marks on the wall of carvings, and then turned and started counting off paces, that's when it was confirmed to me they had no idea what they were doing. The KGC didn't do anything by paces. Everything is layed out in very precise bearings and distances...very accurately. By the time he said "I don't know how to read the carvings, I rely on my equipment", he didn't have to tell me that because I had already figured it out. Until they come up with a real long range locater that actually works, you better understand how to read the carvings because you are not going to find it. One thing I do have to give the guy. If you want to be a well known treasure hunter, if you want publicity, he's figured out how to do that. I think there are others around here that want that but haven't been able to make it happen. Personally I'm not interested in that....yet.
Good luck,
Big Hoss

 

[okietreasurehunter]

Jay, you and the cool-aid gang are in the minority on this one. From what I read, in most threads concerning the tv show, people think it was planted. It was just a publicity stunt to drum up some funding.

 

[Texas Jay]

Well, okie, then I suggest you contact Alec's ole hunting partner Pastore and let him know what you think. Don't bug me as I am just explaining what I saw and my reasons for believing what I do. If you didn't see the roots over the coins, then you need new glasses. If you expect anyone to go public with their KGC treasure finds, then your best bet is on Pastore because I promise you that neither I nor my partner will ever go public with any KGC treasure that we find. The KGC tunnels under Brownwood, Texas are a different matter. We offered any qualified group the opportunity to follow this up to its conclusion and no one took us up on it so, when we have the time and the opportunities, we will do it ourselves solely for history's sake. We won't be writing or selling any books about it and we won't be making any for-profit tv programs about it so we won't be begging for any funds from anyone to do this work. We will not accept any funds from any source for exposing this KGC tunnel network or for opening them up to the public which will be up to either the City and/or individual private property owners.
~Texas Jay
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bloodybillandersonmystery

 

[okietreasurehunter]

Jay, whatever you do with the tunnels is your business. If you wanted to profit from them I doubt anyone would blame you. I'd be interested in seeing what you come up with just for the history part of it.

Concerning the tv show, I saw a jar that hasn't been in the ground long. Coins that haven't been buried long either. You saw some roots. Here's a question for you. If I said years ago there were detectors ran over the exact spot that Pastore found the jars and nothing was found at that time, how did it all of a sudden appear?