Discovery ch. Gold Rush Alaska

GG, I highly commend you with your work for the Make a Wish Foundation. It is a honorable roll that you have pursued and charitable work is very rewarding. You are as I already knew, a very Honorable Man.

That said I have two thoughts.

First, I and I am sure some of the others are looking at this as a career change. Life has been good to me but I am not ready to retire financially independent at this point. You, like I know that we cannot depend on the government for our retirement. I would be willing to donate a large share of profit to Make a Wish, but not 100% at this time.

Second, I am not all that high on the TV thing, as I do not want my actions manipulated. Too many years of saying no, to even those that wrote my check to take directive I disagree with. We would need complete control over our actions and decisions. The TV experience and fame I seek not. I seek the love of mining and the hope of reward.

That said, I am open to discussion and willing to look at the venture as a short term learning and growing experience with no financial reward. The key words here are Short Term, not years. Just keep in mind that some on here cannot go that long without a check for their own needs.
 

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GrayCloud said:
GG, I highly commend you with your work for the Make a Wish Foundation. It is a honorable roll that you have pursued and charitable work is very rewarding. You are as I already knew, a very Honorable Man.

That said I have two thoughts.

First, I and I am sure some of the others are looking at this as a career change. Life has been good to me but I am not ready to retire financially independent at this point. You, like I know that we cannot depend on the government for our retirement. I would be willing to donate a large share of profit to Make a Wish, but not 100% at this time.

Second, I am not all that high on the TV thing, as I do not want my actions manipulated. Too many years of saying no, to even those that wrote my check to take directive I disagree with. We would need complete control over our actions and decisions. The TV experience and fame I seek not. I seek the love of mining and the hope of reward.

That said, I am open to discussion and willing to look at the venture as a short term learning and growing experience with no financial reward. The key words here are Short Term, not years. Just keep in mind that some on here cannot go that long without a check for their own needs.
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Thanks for your feedback GrayCloud :icon_thumleft:

As I said, just throwing the idea out there to see if there was any interest. I really haven't had time to think it through, other than as a way to get started mining with the smallest investment possible.

John Schnabel in his wisdom stated that 95% of the miners in Alaska failed in their attempts to turn a profit.

Working as a non profit organization would qualify the company for government grants as well as tax credits. Plus only the money over and above expenses would be donated. I would assume all other expenses such as payroll and such would be deductible. The way I understand it, we as individual miners would be able to receive a pay check. Just the mining company itself would not be allowed to profit.

However since I am not a cpa I would have to do more investigation on the details.
And like you I personally do not wish to be on TV. Although we could work behind the scenes as advisers or something while the cameras are rolling :dontknow:

The rest of the time we do whatever we can to help the operation be successful. :icon_thumleft:

GG~
 

GG, That sounds like it may be a workable plan. Like you said, equipment manufacturers and dealers may be willing to sponsor for advertising their products. It would be a good learning experience and an eye opener for future endeavors. You would think the Discovery Channel would jump on an opportunity like that. Lets keep all options and ideas on the table. :thumbsup:

Some of those claims in your prior post look prommissing, but I know a lot of due diligence would need to take place before jumping in. Plus I would really prefer for Old Klondikeike to steer that horse.
 

I kind of agree with GoodyGuy to an extent, I think it is a great idea. After all it would get us donated equipment from sponsors. As far as the payroll thing goes, look at the head honcho of UNICEF. He is getting millions in payroll a year while only donating an actual small portion to what actually UNICEF is supposed to be doing. Someday he is going to have to face what he is stealing and being greedy about for his own needs and wants.

Me, I am not looking to be a billionaire, I just want to live very comfortably and I wouldn't be happy if I won a 50 million dollar lottery jackpot but I would settle for 1 million of it. I don't want the whole thing. I couldn't live that long to spend 1/32 that much money!!! I always said if I ever won a large amount lottery like that. 3/4 of it would go to Make a Wish Foundation, Children's Hospitals as well as paying the medical bills for the children's parents that couldn't afford to pay the medical bills or had no insurance.

I personally don't like to have my picture taken or being in the limelight, (even though I was an extra in a movie), but if I happen to be, then so be it. I know when you set up a nonprofit organization dollar figures or a percentage can be placed for each person earnings. So look at it like this;

Let's say we recovered 10 million in gold and there are 6 of us operating the stake, lets say we each get 1 million. There is still another 4 million to give to the "Make a Wish Foundation". 4 million can certainly make a lot of children's wishes come true!

Then we find another location when that one runs out of gold and do it all over again. Sounds good to me!!! :icon_thumright: :icon_thumleft:
 

GrayCloud said:
GG, That sounds like it may be a workable plan. Like you said, equipment manufacturers and dealers may be willing to sponsor for advertising their products. It would be a good learning experience and an eye opener for future endeavors. You would think the Discovery Channel would jump on an opportunity like that. Lets keep all options and ideas on the table. :thumbsup:

Some of those claims in your prior post look prommissing, but I know a lot of due diligence would need to take place before jumping in. Plus I would really prefer for Old Klondikeike to steer that horse.
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Absolutely without a doubt! :icon_thumleft:
Without a commercial gold mining expert on the team we would not have learned the most valuable lesson of all from the Hoffman's mistakes.

I'm thinking a government grant would give us plenty of start up money as well :icon_sunny:
My problem is that my wife and I own a dry cleaning business and we're stuck in Indiana until it's sold.
After that we are free to do whatever.

GG~
 

Hey Goodyguy, I don't know but I believe government grants takes several months and red tape to get unless I am missing something. I like the idea about getting sponsors to donate equipment!

So you in Indiana huh? Where abouts? I got a buddy of mine that lives in Greenfield. You must be under about a foot of snow up there by now aren't you?
 

TheHarleyMan2 said:
Hey Goodyguy, I don't know but I believe government grants takes several months and red tape to get unless I am missing something. I like the idea about getting sponsors to donate equipment!

So you in Indiana huh? Where abouts? I got a buddy of mine that lives in Greenfield. You must be under about a foot of snow up there by now aren't you?
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I live in southern Indiana just across the river from Louisville Ky. and there is only a couple inches of snow here right now.

Wow!
Looks like my idea may be growing some legs,
I am already receiving pm's that indicate some serious interest and possibilities. :hello2:

To keep from hi-jacking this thread anymore than I already have, this will be my last post on this thread concerning the idea of a reality show with the miners donating gold mining profits to the Make a Wish Foundation and/or other children's charities.

I will be pursuing the concept.
And as soon as I have a commitment I will keep everyone up to-date on another thread.

The mining season in Alaska doesn't usually start until sometime in May.
There would be a lot of ducks to get in a row before then.

Thanks everyone for your support,
GG~
 

I can't say count me in on any new adventure because , although I haven't been invited, I don't have the kahunas. I get so rattled watching Gold Rush Alaska and ask more questions than the program can answer. One simple question was what was wrong with the wave table? I have no experience with one but my first though was. Why put Dorsey in the position of chief operator? I had many questions but decided to go to http://goldwavetable.com/67/actionmining-responds-to-gold-rush-alaska/ if I may? and find out if anything was being said. It is very interesting to say the least. And I say to Dorsey, " I apologize for my snap judgment of you. All is not totally as it appears." I still feel he is a wimp but he's a little more intelligent than I gave him credit . We do not see the whole story behind the big screen and we see only what the producers want us to see. One advantage we have is the internet to find out what is really going on. I really love the Discovery Channel but this looks like a slapstick comedy they rapidly connived to make a dollar. I would rather see a documentary of this gold adventure. Just my 2 cents and I'm stilllookin
 

The thing about the show you have to realize is that most of it is about 99% script. On the wave table, now even though they had it on a concrete slab, (I by no means have experience in this table, etc, but common knowledge of what I read about it prior to it being brought on the show), I don't think the concrete platform was stable enough, also proper level and high also plays into the effect.

The table is pretty much a finisher, (getting smaller flakes from black sand, etc), from what I read about it. I believe they had WAY TOO much material on the table to start off with for it to work properly. I think the table is pretty much designed to only have a thin layer of black sand on it to separate to fine gold flakes from the black sand. Also, the black sand should be processed 3-4 times to make sure no gold got by the first time. So the black sand should have been recovered as well from the first pass and put back on the table. Yes, the wave table is a long process to recover gold, but at least it will be recovering some.

Also, with the old man coming in and making a change on it can only ad frustration being he didn't even read the manual on it and said crap the table. There is so much drama and unorganization there that a chimpanzee can probably do more in less time than what all of them put together can do 50 times over!!!

The whole set up is not even close to smelling like a fart from being organized and certainly a lot of wasteful time is going on when other things can/could/should be done. ie, people capable of working/panning rather than sitting around baby sitting, arguing, etc, with each other.

There is a thing called TEAM WORK, if everyone can't do each others job and work together PROFICIENTLY, you just lost the initiative!

I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Foster yanks the claim from them by the end of this season! I can't wait to see what happens this Friday to see they have to rebuild the whole thing all over again and see what other attitudes come into play being Dorsey is not there anymore!

Only time will tell.
 

Harley
I also feel there was way too much material on the table at one time, and from what I saw of the previews they are going to tear down and start over with some of their equipment. It may be due to the fact more and more people are sharing their thoughts and the wave table manufacturer is not going to sit idle and watch his product be trashed. Even though the show gets my goat I can't resist watching it. Will watch it Fri. Glad I'm retired or I'd have to be doing something else. And I'm still-lookin
 

I'm not a fan of Dorsey but if he truly read the manual as much as he said he did I would imagine it included: amount of material, flow rate and proper angle of operation. It seems now Dorsey himself has met his own angle of repose. I don't doubt he will soon be telling his new captain how to fish. Too bad he has to drag his family through all this.

Are Alsaka 'heavy black sands' any heavier than say California black sands? Black Hills black sands? I doubt it.

just my $.02
 

Hi GC...

Actually the claims you refer to in Alaska, if they are the same ones, of which I believe they are..I have access to them... My very best friend and partner, Jack, who passed away this last year very suddenly, his nephew owns this claim... I've been wanting to make a trip up there sometime... Jack and I had a written agreement to work these claims, but didn't get a chance to before Jack passed away....Jacks nephew is now wanting to sell them... but it may be possible to work out something with him for some cash and percentage for a true and real professional mining operation......he just sent me a release form, releasing any rights I may still have, through the contract Jack and I had with him, so he can sell them... I know he needs some money and would like to get cashed out.. but as I said, he may make a deal.... as log as it has substance and is real... not pie in the sky..

The claims I am speaking of are located just above the Arctic Circle... about 300 or so miles north of Fairbanks...

There are some other good claims here in the lower 48 ... with much longer mining seasons... and good gold too...you all might want to consider as well....

Someone mentioned they wanted to come visit me.. always.. come on...one and all...and since there isn't much native gold here in Texas, at least in the Corpus Christi area.. we can always go Treasure Hunting... and I'll show you some mineral / treasure locating technology that will blow you away....
it's light years ahead of anything main stream that's currently available...

If anyone wants to meet me here in Texas.. just send me a PM and we'll exchange contact info...and make a plan to meet...

Klondike
 

stilllookin said:
Harley
I also feel there was way too much material on the table at one time, and from what I saw of the previews they are going to tear down and start over with some of their equipment. It may be due to the fact more and more people are sharing their thoughts and the wave table manufacturer is not going to sit idle and watch his product be trashed. Even though the show gets my goat I can't resist watching it. Will watch it Fri. Glad I'm retired or I'd have to be doing something else. And I'm still-lookin
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??? HUH ???

This show was completely filmed last year and all the editing and production has been completed. All they are doing now is airing that garbage pit of a show. Nothing we, or anyone, says will change one thing about what we see in future shows.
 

About the old man weighing the gold alone. It's a matter of trust, and he is the boss.

Also, this show is seriously scripted, and altered to show not reality but "reality tv"

I know those guys appear to be idiots, but I guarantee you they do way more mining than they show, and they have found more than 2.7 ounces of gold, so far.

Also, we can all be glad they aren't REALLY good at getting gold( at least they show it to be this way), because we all here ARE good at getting gold, and well, if ten million people saw how easy it was, they'd get the wrong idea :) With over $250,000 invested, you can be dang sure those guys especially Todd and family are gonna get their money back.

I enjoy the show because I know the truth of the matter and can see through the script to the Wild Alaska.

Ps- The whole drinking water from the river at the begginning is part of the script too. Everyone knows even fish muck can cause human sickness, let alone they KNOW there are bears and their shet washes into the water. It was a good ploy though, and Dorsey is part of the conspiracy( or script) for future seasons, etc.
 

This is a true train wreck,one I cant help but look at!!WOW!!!They finally get some true help,yet they want to still do it there way!!I would kick them off my claim in a hot second,after what looks like happens next week.You dont disrespect my friends and ruin my claim!!!
 

kuger said:
This is a true train wreck,one I cant help but look at!!WOW!!!They finally get some true help,yet they want to still do it there way!!I would kick them off my claim in a hot second,after what looks like happens next week.You dont disrespect my friends and ruin my claim!!!
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i could not have said it better, i have always been the one to take a proactive approach to things, being reactive gets you no where... and there has been way to much reacting in a negative way in this so called reality tv show.. from the first airing of this show i sat here and told my wifey if these guys do not check themselves, there gonna wreck themselves and was i ever so right... scripted or not, it is one of the worst discovery channel shows i have ever seen.. i am actually watching this new flying wild alaska that just started a couple of weeks ago... this is reality at its best... :headbang:
 

Part 10 episode 7 for your viewing pleasure. :icon_sunny:


 

I watched it last night and when Mr Foster put his inside guy on the team, they were not happy, of course Mr Foster isn't happy with their progress either! Then they show a brief view of next weeks episode where someone pushed, (assult by contact), Mr Foster's right hand man? WTH?

I know the filming is all done and over with as it was filmed last year, but I would almost bet after the conflict with Mr Fosters right hand man, the minors would be going home soon in the next couple of episodes without recovering much gold.

Too much drama and physical aggressiveness with each other on the show. Violence and arguing is not the way to get things done!

I wonder what Todd's sister thinks when she finds out they are getting paid for the show and Todd coming to borrow money from her?

I wonder if Discovery pays them as they film or when the show is over?
 

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