Dent's Run News: Geophysical Survey Released After Lawsuit

[diamonddave]

If the ruling was to deny the plaintiff it would then be the grounds for the plaintiff to keep the story going.

"See the FBI has something to hide if they didn't find anything they would of released the records."
"We won!-Proof that the gold was taken"

Exactly, and this appears to be the crux of the matter.

The Plaintiffs have effectively prevailed through the FOIA and court system to obtain the case records. They just won't stop at that and are insisting the DOJ provide more information, some exempted by law to protect individuals and law enforcement protocols and some that cannot be proven even exists.

 

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[Tesorodeoro]

The real question should be why were our tax dollars spent following wild stories and how much $ was spent?

 

[ConceptualizedNetherlandr]

Along with why the resistance to transparency?

 

[diamonddave]

The real question should be why were our tax dollars spent following wild stories

If the alleged folklore story was to be believed, it would have been stolen US gold bullion. That is a crime, all be it a crime of historic proportion and no doubt of huge monetary and historic value. If you read the investigative files released in conjunction with the case, you will also learn there were other potential improprieties which had occurred more recently and were involving the finders and others. It's my understanding the investigation was to put the matter to rest once and for all and ground-truth the scientific data by excavating.

 

[diamonddave]

Along with why the resistance to transparency?

There never was a resistance to transparency, that was manufactured by Plaintiff. Plaintiff didn't want to par down his request and they estimated 4 years to produce it (ridiculous wait, but not unusual compared to other cases), so he brought suit and they released it all, with the narrow exception of their methods.

If anyone's been "resistant to transparency" it's Plaintiff. There are countless promises of "proof" from Plaintiff that this alleged gold was absconded with but zero of this evidence has ever been made transparent. His own eyewitnesses are more transparent when interviewed, they say exactly what they saw or heard, but you don't hear any of them saying they witnessed anybody absconding with gold.

 

[BennyV]

For those members discounting this story. They sure did spend a lot of resources chasing a “legend”.

 

[releventchair]

For those members discounting this story. They sure did spend a lot of resources chasing a “legend”.

They sure did.

Did you see the gold after?

 

[Tesorodeoro]

They sure did.

Did you see the gold after?

It was the only treasure “found” that was never seen.

 

[BennyV]

They sure did.

Did you see the gold after?

I didn’t see it and the general public won’t see it either.

 

[Old Bookaroo]

I am FAR from being a EXPERT on research. Twenty Five years ago we started taking some of our horses over near Dents Run and doling a lot of Trail riding there. A friend over there gave me a folder of the lost gold there to take home and copy. Which i did and then returned them. We rode ALL over there but being inexprenced we did not know what to look for. So one day I started doing some research on this treasure or rumor.
I started with the OR's (Offical Records of the civil war) I could find no evidence . Now mind you i am NO EXPERT at research. But if i could find nothing about that shipment I kind of gave up.

Gore:

You put your finger on it. There is no documentary evidence that has seen the light of day that this treasure ever existed.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

 

[BennyV]

Gore:

You put your finger on it. There is no documentary evidence that has seen the light of day that this treasure ever existed.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

Yet they dug for days.

 

[releventchair]

Yet they dug for days.

Well , for partial days hours anyways.
Did you see the gold that wasn't there?

 

[Old Bookaroo]

Yet they dug for days.

And...

A number of years ago, a salvage team spent a tremendous amount of time and money looking for (and finding) the wreck of the Str. Brother Jonathan, off Crescent City, California. They didn't manage to find the huge US Army payroll rumored to have gone down with the ship. Why? Bad luck? Poor equipment? Dirty weather?

Or because the payroll was less than $200,000 in currency? It wasn't hundreds of thousands, or millions, of dollars in gold specie.

I'd published an article documenting the loss. But that didn't keep these good people from going out there.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

 

[pepperj]

The real question should be why were our tax dollars spent following wild stories and how much $ was spent?

There's lots of cases where one sued another and lost.
Now fighting the man is fighting one's own pocket book basically.
The Government agency has no budget when it comes to these things.

So if the plaintiff looses they might be on the hook for court costs.
They might also be sued for slander.

There's the possibility of having a charge of making up this wild scheme in the first place.

If all this does happen or a part of it even. It might be kind of interesting.

 

[MiddenMonster]

They didn't manage to find the huge US Army payroll rumored to have gone down with the ship. Why? Bad luck? Poor equipment? Dirty weather?

Or because the payroll was less than $200,000 in currency? It wasn't hundreds of thousands, or millions, of dollars in gold specie.

That in itself raises an interesting tangential question. Is there any logical reason why a U.S. Army payroll would be transported as gold, vs. paper currency? Isn't the whole point of currency so you don't have to carry around heavy gold or silver, a box of live chickens or a few bushels of corn all the time? And if I was ambushed while transporting an Army payroll I'd much rather my horse drop dead from exhaustion an extra few miles down the trail than where it would have dropped dead from exhaustion carrying a heavy load of gold. And when the horse did drop dead, you could carry a leather satchel of paper money and hide a lot better than if you were lugging a reinforced box full of gold. Life's too short to die for someone else's gold.

 

[BennyV]

That in itself raises an interesting tangential question. Is there any logical reason why a U.S. Army payroll would be transported as gold, vs. paper currency? Isn't the whole point of currency so you don't have to carry around heavy gold or silver, a box of live chickens or a few bushels of corn all the time? And if I was ambushed while transporting an Army payroll I'd much rather my horse drop dead from exhaustion an extra few miles down the trail than where it would have dropped dead from exhaustion carrying a heavy load of gold. And when the horse did drop dead, you could carry a leather satchel of paper money and hide a lot better than if you were lugging a reinforced box full of gold. Life's too short to die for someone else's gold.

Valid question.

I read more than my fair share of books on the Civil War & Revolutionary War. Inflation did hit some of the paper currency pretty hard so at times hard currency was preferred. Could be the case here.

 

[MiddenMonster]

I read more than my fair share of books on the Civil War & Revolutionary War. Inflation did hit some of the paper currency pretty hard so at times hard currency was preferred. Could be the case here.

That makes sense. But even so, I would expect the soldiers to be paid in gold or silver coin, not gold bullion. So if the gold was headed to the Philadelphia mint to be converted into coin for some future payroll down the line I could see it going down that way. But what's the turnaround time from a mid-19th century mint receiving gold to it shipping out gold coins for payroll?

 

[BennyV]

That makes sense. But even so, I would expect the soldiers to be paid in gold or silver coin, not gold bullion. So if the gold was headed to the Philadelphia mint to be converted into coin for some future payroll down the line I could see it going down that way. But what's the turnaround time from a mid-19th century mint receiving gold to it shipping out gold coins for payroll?

That was what I was thinking. Coin it out somehow or use it to buy barter able goods

 

[Tesorodeoro]

Yet they dug for days.

Would take days for our current work force to do a couple hours of work from their home. Am I wrong? I mean really let’s look at reality.

 

[Tesorodeoro]

That was what I was thinking. Coin it out somehow or use it to buy barter able goods

Did you read the threads up until that feller got banned? It wasn’t for arguing or foul language.

A Mod. deleted the lengthy thread (with pictures and lots of inside information). I thought since it was such an active topic that it would have left it up for the benefit of treasure hunters. I trust their judgement. I remember seeing a picture they took inside the cave of a human skeleton holding Spanish silver coins and gems, which is a scene featured numerous times on the cover of the 1960’s treasure lost/found rags and within articles. I was amazed, it was something I had dreamed about as a child!!!

WayBack Machine probably has it archived. WayBackmachine
Check it out, it’s a useful website.

Wayback Machine

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