Dent's Run News: Geophysical Survey Released After Lawsuit

[releventchair]

If the caravan was ambushed, the gold is long gone. I can't recall ever hearing about a large quantity of gold getting jacked while being transported, and the people doing the jacking were somehow unaware of how heavy the wagons were and just gave up looking for it, false bottoms or not. Whether or not the legend is true, or even whether the FBI booked off with the gold, at the crux of the problem is the key players didn't pay for good legal representation when negotiating with the feds to get permission to conduct their search. Had they done so, the agreement would have specifically allowed for them to be present for all activities conducted by the government. The agreement would also have allowed for video recording all activity by either party. And if they were smart, they would have sold the commercial video rights to the History Channel and had some walking around money regardless of whether gold was found or not.

Scale it back to a bushel of gold bars.
That is a lot to sneak out of the area.

Runs are like dry creekbeds. Or have water in them. But expect flow during heavy rains or snowmelt. They eroded over time.
But like creeks/riverine areas silt and sediment means life supporting fertilizer of a sort.
Wildlife finds that and now we have corridors.
And people been hunting a long time. Including Dents Run.
If it was so remote no witnesses existed then gold may well have came and gone.
Hunters and residents (latest news articles aside) didn't report everyone and everything they saw leaving.
But rest assured strangers get backtracked if not followed first. They do here anyways.
And yes plenty were tattled on. Strangers are seldom great news in quiet areas. And in hunting areas are immediate competition during season.

Legend of the Lost Gold of Dents Run | Visit PA Great Outdoors

Federal Agents searching for “something” within a large secured area brought the Legend of the Lost Gold of Dents Run back into the media spotlight in 2019. The year was 1863. Legends states that a Union wagon train left Wheeling, West Virginia with 52 bars of gold, each weighing 50 pounds...

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[MiddenMonster]

Scale it back to a bushel of gold bars.
That is a lot to sneak out of the area.

And per the article you posted, there were "52 bars of gold, each weighing 50 pounds". So 2,600lbs of gold. That seems like a lot for 10 men to be transporting by wagons. I don't see how they could have traveled with that weight--plus supplies and provisions, unless they had a remuda, wranglers to manage them, a cook with his own wagon, etc. It's not like in the movies where a cowboy rides the same horse all day long. I think on cattle drives each cowboy switched horses 4-5 times a day, so you have to figure the horses pulling the wagon would have to be switched out just as much, if not more.

And then there is this:

"...but only Conners survived. He is said to have gotten drunk on numerous occasions on his return from war and would tell others in the bar — “I know where there’s gold back in the hills of Pennsylvania.” Ultimately, he died while building roads in California."

That makes no sense to me at all. If you knew where a fortune in gold was, you'd be working to get it and not building roads on the other side of the country. And if more than one person knows where the gold is, no one is going to trust any of the others, and one way or the other that gold is going to disappear sooner rather than later. I really can't fathom the "one day I'm going back for that gold" mentality. If I knew about the location of gold for the taking it would be my primary mission to get it as soon as possible. I sure as hell wouldn't be doing backbreaking manual labor while the gold was just sitting there.

 

[3cylbill]

There were 7,000 killed total at Gettysburg. There were 50,000 casualties. Try again…

Over 50,000 were killed ...gettysburg...

 

[diamonddave]

Over 50,000 were killed ...gettysburg...

Wrong again, in so many ways. While not nearly statistically correct in regards to the number of deaths, the idea of invoking those lost in the Battle of Gettysburg to support the selfish conspiracist theories and TV-show ambitions of “treasure hunters” is blasphemy of the worst kind. Never understood why people don’t do their own research and think for themselves before parroting false narratives.

 

[ToddsPoint]

Over 50,000 were killed ...gettysburg...

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Please remember no insults.

 

[pepperj]

Over 50,000 were killed ...gettysburg...

I'm amazed that one needs to show a history lesson to some.
Your looking at the Total casualties which is 51,112.
Add killed, wounded, missing or captured the total is 51,112.

Number killed 7058

 

[3cylbill]

Wrong again, in so many ways. While not nearly statistically correct in regards to the number of deaths, the idea of invoking those lost in the Battle of Gettysburg to support the selfish conspiracist theories and TV-show ambitions of “treasure hunters” is blasphemy of the worst kind. Never understood why people don’t do their own research and think for themselves before parroting false narratives.

No ..the fact is over 50,000... fifty thousand Americans were killed at Gettysburg . No selfish conspiracy just stating the facts .. ..got it....50,000 Americans died at gettysburg...

 

[diamonddave]

just stating the facts ..

Getting your facts from the same source detailing the expenditures of the Dents Run investigation? Yea, that is what I thought. Nothing published to support those claims either.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

50,000 total casualties, wounded and killed. Little over 7,050 killed.

 

[releventchair]

No ..the fact is over 50,000... fifty thousand Americans were killed at Gettysburg . No selfish conspiracy just stating the facts .. ..got it....50,000 Americans died at gettysburg...

[The Battle of Gettysburg, Pennsylvania (July 1–3, 1863) was the largest battle of the American Civil War as well as the largest battle ever fought in North America, involving around 85,000 men in the Union’s Army of the Potomac under Major General George Gordon Meade and approximately 75,000 in the Confederacy’s Army of Northern Virginia, commanded by General Robert Edward Lee. Casualties at Gettysburg totaled 23,049 for the Union (3,155 dead, 14,529 wounded, 5,365 missing). Confederate casualties were 28,063 (3,903 dead, 18,735 injured, and 5,425 missing), more than a third of Lee’s army.]

The Battle of Gettysburg: Facts and Info About a Turning Point in the Civil War

The Battle of Gettysburg was the Civil War's largest battle—and a major turning point in the conflict. Learn the facts about who fought, who died, who won.

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[diamonddave]

Not a lot of earth shaking news, but it certainly doesn't put anything to rest or answer questions:

Good point, there are so many questions that only the treasure hunters can answer. I doubt they have time to come in here with everything going on at the new sites but sure would be nice to learn something about those too.

 

[diamonddave]

Well, it seems the treasure hunters are answering some questions over on their Facebook site: Dents Run Lost Civil War Gold. They have posted a video link today and answer questions from a follower regarding their decision not to obtain a $5K bond to core the site, years before they got the DOJ involved.

Based on what the alleged cache was supposed to be worth, this would be a no-brainer to get the bond. Makes one wonder if they ever really believed anything was there. The video links to two other videos with lots of detailed information and images.

 

[SD51]

I suggest we ask Jean-Claude Van Damme to come out of retirement and jump into the time machine he used in his movie "Timecop" to see if the Union transporting of Gold story is true...

 

[pepperj]

No ..the fact is over 50,000... fifty thousand Americans were killed at Gettysburg . No selfish conspiracy just stating the facts .. ..got it....50,000 Americans died at gettysburg...

 

[Old Bookaroo]

That yarn brought 4 dozen heavily armd agents to dents run.. the FBI has the best researchers on the planet. THE FBI knew it was thier ,Why did the. FBI not let the folks that found the gold watch the dig ? they said they would . Why did the FBI spend hundreds of thousands on ATVs and hotel rooms for all the agents ...if the FBI thought the gold was there Why don't you ?....

How do you know the FBI "knew" the gold was there? Because they went to look for it?

Sometimes the fire department shows up and puts out a fire. Sometimes it's a false alarm.

Once again, I return to the obvious question: "Where did the gold come from?" There is no satisfactory answer. And the corollary - "What was the gold doing in the middle of the woods?"

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

 

[Old Bookaroo]

I’m waiting to see some US Army paperwork with orders for transporting gold by wagon from WV to PA. The army always had a lot of paperwork, even during the civil war. Even if they were secret orders, there would still be a record somewhere. Library of Congress?🤔 Without some kind of paper trail, it’s just another treasure rumor. Evidence please! Anything!

You are absolutely correct. I've spent a fair amount of time researching the Confederate Treasury treasure yarn, and even as the South was collapsing in 1865, the army paymasters did their duty and that included detailed paperwork. The trail of the gold is well-documented - with a few loose ends.

Good luck to all,

The Old Bookaroo

 

[SeabeeRon]

Well, it seems the treasure hunters are answering some questions over on their Facebook site: Dents Run Lost Civil War Gold. They have posted a video link today and answer questions from a follower regarding their decision not to obtain a $5K bond to core the site, years before they got the DOJ involved.

Based on what the alleged cache was supposed to be worth, this would be a no-brainer to get the bond. Makes one wonder if they ever really believed anything was there. The video links to two other videos with lots of detailed information and images.

I'd take whatever those "treasure hunters" say on that FB page with a grain of salt or maybe the whole shaker!

 

[Tesorodeoro]

“Hey, that’s how the game is played”? Anybody still around that remembers that comment made right before he was banned for…?

That kind of pissed me off how he treated his captive audience. That thread got deleted by T-Net.

Also let’s not forget how the story grew legs and there was suddenly numerous tons of Spanish silver coins and gems hidden there as well as part of another treasure hidden in the same exact spot.

Suppose the FBI got that older treasure hoard as well? The news stories don’t mention that at all. I wonder why?

It’s that time of year - we all want to believe.

 

[diamonddave]

I'd take whatever those "treasure hunters" say on that FB page with a grain of salt or maybe the whole shaker!

The video posted and two or three others are done by a fellow on YouTube, State Treasures. He takes a fact-based look at the finders claims that even the finder cannot deny. Hard to argue with the facts and documents State Treasures shows, that tell the truth.