Crime Stats & the Gun Debate

It only shows...with OR without a gun ban....people will still be SHOT and die....they need to put the BAN on crazy people...but , then again if people would feed there kids right and drink water they wouldn't need to be put on all the DRUGS anyway...most kids/people now days don't even eat enough of the right stuff to keep there brain right...plus what ever is in the water and other junk food stuff, beside no nutrition, most things are jacked up with stuff you cant even say.....SO..any gun ban what so ever is just the Government wanting the common man to be a VICTIM... they love those people....that's why they came up with welfare...they do not want you to be or become anything...just the VICTIM....and DEPENDENT on them....................................which ONLY means SLAVE...:icon_thumleft:
 

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It only shows...with OR without a gun ban....people will still be SHOT and die....they need to put the BAN on crazy people...but , then again if people would feed there kids right and drink water they wouldn't need to be put on all the DRUGS anyway...most kids/people now days don't even eat enough of the right stuff to keep there brain right...plus what ever is in the water and other junk food stuff, beside no nutrition, most things are jacked up with stuff you cant even say.....SO..any gun ban what so ever is just the Government wanting the common man to be a VICTIM... they love those people....that's why they came up with welfare...they do not want you to be or become anything...just the VICTIM....and DEPENDENT on them....................................which ONLY means SLAVE...:icon_thumleft:

I think it means we should just make murder legal. It's always going to happen, criminals are not deterred by laws. Good people are often wrongfully accused. Just legalize murder and all these problems go away b
 

It only shows...with OR without a gun ban....people will still be SHOT and die....they need to put the BAN on crazy people...but , then again if people would feed there kids right and drink water they wouldn't need to be put on all the DRUGS anyway...most kids/people now days don't even eat enough of the right stuff to keep there brain right...plus what ever is in the water and other junk food stuff, beside no nutrition, most things are jacked up with stuff you cant even say.....SO..any gun ban what so ever is just the Government wanting the common man to be a VICTIM... they love those people....that's why they came up with welfare...they do not want you to be or become anything...just the VICTIM....and DEPENDENT on them....................................which ONLY means SLAVE...:icon_thumleft:

Wow, that opinion just globally offended all sorts of people...impressive.
 

It only shows...with OR without a gun ban....people will still be SHOT and die....they need to put the BAN on crazy people...but , then again if people would feed there kids right and drink water they wouldn't need to be put on all the DRUGS anyway...most kids/people now days don't even eat enough of the right stuff to keep there brain right...plus what ever is in the water and other junk food stuff, beside no nutrition, most things are jacked up with stuff you cant even say.....SO..any gun ban what so ever is just the Government wanting the common man to be a VICTIM... they love those people....that's why they came up with welfare...they do not want you to be or become anything...just the VICTIM....and DEPENDENT on them....................................which ONLY means SLAVE...:icon_thumleft:

how does one go about "eating right"? I agree, it's time to ban crazy people. I think the Government is going to put an ad in all major newspapers on Sunday telling the not crazy ones to form a line. The ones that don't show up, well let's just say, they'll know who they are. Right?
 

how does one go about "eating right"? I agree, it's time to ban crazy people. I think the Government is going to put an ad in all major newspapers on Sunday telling the not crazy ones to form a line. The ones that don't show up, well let's just say, they'll know who they are. Right?

LOL!
 

how does one go about "eating right"? I agree, it's time to ban crazy people. I think the Government is going to put an ad in all major newspapers on Sunday telling the not crazy ones to form a line. The ones that don't show up, well let's just say, they'll know who they are. Right?

Think of this...ALL processed food has things added to them...alot of bad stuff, and others not as bad but if its processed,it is so it doesn't spoil as fast, or better flavoring....DONT EAT IT.....THATS what I mean ..."eating right"...you body is, only as good as the food you put in it, and if your not getting what the body really needs..thing mess up....AND YOU GET...:ADD,ADHD,High blood pressure, depression...lol do you know just a little sun light can CURE DEPRESSION....but no....here is some prozac...the American people as a whole....are very stupid now days...only worrying about there cell phone, fashion,whats in..a whole BUNCH of nothing REAL...do some research...no one should have to be spoon feed the truth.

Grow a garden, can some food, eat raw fresh food.....even the meat in stores are jacked up now days...no one eats like they should now days
 

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Think of this...ALL processed food has things added to them...alot of bad stuff, and others not as bad but if its processed,it is so it doesn't spoil as fast, or better flavoring....DONT EAT IT.....THATS what I mean ..."eating right"...you body is, only as good as the food you put in it, and if your not getting what the body really needs..thing mess up....AND YOU GET...:ADD,ADHD,High blood pressure, depression...lol do you know just a little sun light can CURE DEPRESSION....but no....here is some prozac...the American people as a whole....are very stupid now days...only worrying about there cell phone, fashion,whats in..a whole BUNCH of nothing REAL...do some research...no one should have to be spoon feed the truth.

Grow a garden, can some food, eat raw fresh food.....even the meat in stores are jacked up now days...no one eats like they should now days

Sunlight can cure depression? Wow, why in the world would anybody pay to see a psychiatrist or take medication when sunlight is free? What is the cure for schizophrenia? What is the cure for bipolar? What is the cure for anorexia? What is the cure for PTSD? Please enlighten us.

Did you read about one of American Heros that was killed by a marine with PTSD? How much sunlight did he need to be cured? To think, one could have prevented that death all along but never shared this information...
 

EVERYTHING, I stated is the truth, and that is society as a whole.....if it offends any one, its probably because they're part of the problem...
 

EVERYTHING, I stated is the truth, and that is society as a whole.....if it offends any one, its probably because they're part of the problem...

Count me as part of the solution. I think we all know who the problem is.
 

Sunlight can cure depression? Wow, why in the world would anybody pay to see a psychiatrist or take medication when sunlight is free? What is the cure for schizophrenia? What is the cure for bipolar? What is the cure for anorexia? What is the cure for PTSD? Please enlighten us.

Did you read about one of American Heros that was killed by a marine with PTSD? How much sunlight did he need to be cured? To think, one could have prevented that death all along but never shared this information...

More spoon feeding...OK Bipolar is a chimerical imbalance in the brain....thats why they go up and down...There not eating right...

Every year more and more people become all of the above....because we grow farther and farther from what we should be doing...kids drink no water now days ,,,always having pop and sports drinks...your body can not function properly on that stuff...and years and years of it....lol you will be all messed up....and if you grow up that way , you will grow your kids that way....any way enough with you....do some research....you might live past 60
 

Count me as part of the solution. I think we all know who the problem is.


See your already not thinking right ...it isnt a WHO....its a way of life that has changed for the worse

When it became cheaper to eat junk food than the food that is really good for you....it was already to late..
 

More spoon feeding...OK Bipolar is a chimerical imbalance in the brain....thats why they go up and down...There not eating right...

Every year more and more people become all of the above....because we grow farther and farther from what we should be doing...kids drink no water now days ,,,always having pop and sports drinks...your body can not function properly on that stuff...and years and years of it....lol you will be all messed up....and if you grow up that way , you will grow your kids that way....any way enough with you....do some research....you might live past 60

Why do I get the feeling somebody is going to jump out with a video camera and shout, "Surprise, you just got punked." I'll play along. Sunlight cures depression, water cures bipolar...got it. What cures PTSD?
 

Think of this...ALL processed food has things added to them...alot of bad stuff, and others not as bad but if its processed,it is so it doesn't spoil as fast, or better flavoring....DONT EAT IT.....THATS what I mean ..."eating right"...you body is, only as good as the food you put in it, and if your not getting what the body really needs..thing mess up....AND YOU GET...:ADD,ADHD,High blood pressure, depression...lol do you know just a little sun light can CURE DEPRESSION....but no....here is some prozac...the American people as a whole....are very stupid now days...only worrying about there cell phone, fashion,whats in..a whole BUNCH of nothing REAL...do some research...no one should have to be spoon feed the truth.

Grow a garden, can some food, eat raw fresh food.....even the meat in stores are jacked up now days...no one eats like they should now days
Wow those are some interesting points.. Not to try to rebute any of them but I for one don't feel that adding sunlight to somebodys day is going to fix anything.. Where as I may disagree with crispin sometimes alot of the points made by him are valid.. I am as much of an advocate of the 2nd amendment as you will find but as I have said before people with depression or psycological disorders are as dangerous as a gun and even more dangerous with one.. Letting them sit in the sun is not the answer.. I can understand your frustration with foods nowadays but that is the least of these peoples problems... My advice to you is if your going to get into a debate with crispin these facts are not going to get you anywhere. I am not trying to offend you B1u3Dr4gOn1 but I think crispin may have you one this one...
 

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OK....I went through the thread and tried to digest it as best as I could....you do have some valid points I might add....born in 1950 pretty much everything I ate as a kid was prepared from scratch....today me and the missus eat probably 80% from scratch....very little processed or prepared food.....so I'm with you so far.

2001 I got a buy out package or early retirement if you will....border line burnout case....and thanks to good food, exercise and fresh air I managed to rebuild my health and stamina on my own....no meds, or professional health care required....

But that said I was fairly well adjusted/normal....whatever that implies these days....to begin with...

Others because of genetics, life stresses/experiences, etc.....are not so fortunate and need medical/psychiatric intervention to help them sort out their conditions and problems....that's a given.....that's where Crispin and company come into play.....in all due respect your solution is slightly overly simplistic to my mind.

Regards + HH

Bill
 

Peace instead of illegal undeclared wars for profit.
I'm not a doctor but I for one could'nt iamgine what would cure this.. Seeing what they seen and living in the areas and dealing with the day to day stuff that they have to deal with has to weigh on them heavily.. You just can't erase what you see or remember in my opinion and I truly feel sorry for anybody that has to go through life and carry this burden.. I thank every service man or woman I see but it seems such a small gesture when I think about what they have had to endure to secure my freedom...
 

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Peace instead of illegal undeclared wars for profit.

I'm all for Peace. Pretty sure there are a lot of those in the middle east and elsewhere that are not going to see it our way. Our men and women in the military deserve honor. They are noble and suffer PTSD from there service. I'll let others worry about peace. I'll help the ones that protect me.
 

Red,

As much as I hate to admit.....I agree with you on this one dude.....we've lost to many good young men and women for a cause that ain't going to change squat in that part of the world.....

Regards + HH

Bill


Peace instead of illegal undeclared wars for profit.
 

pong12211 said:
I'm not a doctor but I for one could'nt iamgine what would cure this.. Seeing what they seen and living in the areas and dealing with the day to day stuff that they have to deal with has to weigh on the heavily.. You just can't erase what you see or remember in my opinion and I truly feel sorry for anybody that has to go through life and carry this burden.. I thank every service man or woman I see but it seems such a small gesture when I think about what they have had to endure to secure my freedom...

You got that right. And there is absolutely no cure - only ways to try to lessen the effects. Have a nam vet uncle 2nd lt right out of school, major jungle time with mass casualties in platoon - was never ever ever the same.

We will be feeling with Iraq / Afghanistan vets for decades and decades and decades. Red is exactly right - we are always quick to roll in the mass ground troops and in not sure if a lot of thought it put to the long term ramifications (or even the short term for that matter).
 

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