Could this be SILVER? (or the Lone Ranger? lol)

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Hey, Once again, something strange followed me home while MD-ing. On the DFX it read as SILVER with a +75 thru +78. It is approximately 3/4 of an inch wide, and has bright silver areas. It is not lead, because it is lighter in weight. A magnet does not stick to it. I used a knife to scrape it in several places, each time the area beneath was silver. There are more silver areas on the rock than show up on the photos. The reddish colored areas are red clay that didn't clean out. Also in the same field, I found a very nice 1850 Large Cent. I'm wondering numismatically speaking, should I clean the coin or not? Thanks, Breezie
 

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TheBreeze426 said:
Hey, Once again, something strange followed me home while MD-ing. On the DFX it read as SILVER with a +75 thru +78. It is approximately 3/4 of an inch wide, and has bright silver areas. It is not lead, because it is lighter in weight. A magnet does not stick to it. I used a knife to scrape it in several places, each time the area beneath was silver. There are more silver areas on the rock than show up on the photos. The reddish colored areas are red clay that didn't clean out. Also in the same field, I found a very nice 1850 Large Cent. I'm wondering numismatically speaking, should I clean the coin or not? Thanks, Breezie

I just found a bunch of these at my favorite camp site in the blue mountains here. They came out of the fire pits that the site custodians empty at the end of every season and spread over the camp area. They are melted aluminum cans and foil. They show up on my M6 at VDI 77-78, penny and dimes. Perhaps this is what you have found. Any signs of a fire or ash lying around where you found it? They drive me crazy, there are so many of them lying around after a long season. MHO. HH
 

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I just found a bunch of these at my favorite camp site in the blue mountains here. They came out of the fire pits that the site custodians empty at the end of every season and spread over the camp area. They are melted aluminum cans and foil. They show up on my M6 at VDI 77-78, penny and dimes. Perhaps this is what you have found. Any signs of a fire or ash lying around where you found it? They drive me crazy, there are so many of them lying around after a long season. MHO. HH
Do you have any pics of these? If so, please post. Thanks, Breezie
 

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TheBreeze426 said:
I just found a bunch of these at my favorite camp site in the blue mountains here. They came out of the fire pits that the site custodians empty at the end of every season and spread over the camp area. They are melted aluminum cans and foil. They show up on my M6 at VDI 77-78, penny and dimes. Perhaps this is what you have found. Any signs of a fire or ash lying around where you found it? They drive me crazy, there are so many of them lying around after a long season. MHO. HH
Do you have any pics of these? If so, please post. Thanks, Breezie
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,279164.0.html

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,186927.0.html

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,264498.0.html

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,78539.0.html

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,36439.0.html
 

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i have had good luck with copper pennies in potatoes. Get a big russet
potatoe and cut a slice in it. Insert coin and let sit for a couple of days.
Remove and wash gently in warm water. Jimbob
 

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Man water on them scares me!!I used Lemon juice on the last ones I found and that worked well,but as said I would leave it alone.
 

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TheBreeze426 said:
I just found a bunch of these at my favorite camp site in the blue mountains here. They came out of the fire pits that the site custodians empty at the end of every season and spread over the camp area. They are melted aluminum cans and foil. They show up on my M6 at VDI 77-78, penny and dimes. Perhaps this is what you have found. Any signs of a fire or ash lying around where you found it? They drive me crazy, there are so many of them lying around after a long season. MHO. HH
Do you have any pics of these? If so, please post. Thanks, Breezie

I did not take photos of them. They look exactly like the one you posted. This aluminum oxidizes at the surface, that is why they are harder than a nice piece of clean aluminum at the surface. Pure Aluminum oxide has a mohs hardness of 9 on that hardness scale. A diamond has a hardness of 10. I am not saying that your piece has PURE Aluminum oxide on it. Aluminum oxide is also used to make grinding wheels. Anodizing of aluminum is an electrolytic passivication of the surface using electricity and a sulfuric acid bath. This forms a hard surface on aluminum to help it stand up to wear and abrasion. This process leaves a darker gray color and porous appearance on the surface that is often times sealed to smooth the surface out and prevent corrosion. Before sealing, the aluminum piece can be dyed to many colors. I do not pretend to know exactly how the pieces I find become oxidized in a camp fire. Perhaps from the intense heat and chemical reaction from ashes. (Caustic Soda perhaps). I have a very large sandy area around here called The "Dunes" I will be going there soon. I find these here in the fire pits on occasion. I will try to get photos for posting. I believe this is what you found. HH

"Anodization changes the microscopic texture of the surface and changes the crystal structure of the metal near the surface. Thick coatings are normally porous, so a sealing process is often needed to achieve corrosion resistance. Anodized aluminium surfaces, for example, are harder than aluminium but have low to moderate wear resistance that can be improved with increasing thickness or by applying suitable sealing substances. Anodic films are generally much stronger and more adherent than most types of paint and metal plating, but also more brittle. This makes them less likely to crack and peel from aging and wear, but more susceptible to cracking from thermal stress."---From the internet.
 

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I dont know if you looked at the links I posted but here is the pic of not-silver nuggets posted by another member.(most likely aluminum) Aluminum appears heavier in a melted nugget form. Its a very common find around camp fires.
 

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Yes, I did see the links and pics. You are exactly right; it is melted alum. cans. I went back this afternoon and found a large campfire area, plus another area which had a smaller fire. Thank you for solving this one. Breezie
 

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I dont even know what a silver nugget looks like because I never saw one posted here. We certainly dont have them in Florida, but is there such a thing as a natural occuring silver nugget? and what does it look like and where might you find one? :dontknow: Does anyone know?
 

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bigcypresshunter said:
kuger said:
I wouldnt peroxide copper
I dont know much about the Peroxide method. I only used it once with success. Could you explain what this method is for. I thought is was for copper. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,233399.0.html

The peroxide trick Is for copper. I have used it on quite a few wheats. Heat the peroxide in a glass for 15-30 sec. drop coin in and when the fizzing and smoke subside it is done.Never had it destroy a coin yet,it cleans them up a bit though.
 

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kuger said:
Man water on them scares me!!I used Lemon juice on the last ones I found and that worked well,but as said I would leave it alone.
:icon_scratch: Why...doesn't it get water on it from the ground :icon_scratch: Lemon juice on copper or Bronze coins :nono: :nono:

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Lemon juice on silver nuggets is good :D

bigcypresshunter said:
I dont even know what a silver nugget looks like because I never saw one posted here. We certainly dont have them in Florida, but is there such a thing as a natural occuring silver nugget? and what does it look like and where might you find one? :dontknow: Does anyone know?

Natural occurring silver nuggets do exists yet none so far has been posted on Tnet as I can remember.

I would search old car graveyards for silver nuggets ;D
 

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IronSpike said:
bigcypresshunter said:
I dont even know what a silver nugget looks like because I never saw one posted here. We certainly dont have them in Florida, but is there such a thing as a natural occuring silver nugget? and what does it look like and where might you find one? :dontknow: Does anyone know?

Natural occurring silver nuggets do exists yet none so far has been posted on Tnet as I can remember.

I would search old car graveyards for silver nuggets ;D
I googled natural occuring silver nuggets and I answered my own question. I had always thought it would look like Galena. Here are some good pics. It looks nothing like melted aluminum or lead. http://www.meteorlab.com/METEORLAB2001dev/platgroupmetals.htm
 

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