confederate blanket buckle,/ also solid bronze buckle.?
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Will do. You can order single copies. Being a bi-monthly publication, it may be several months before it's in print as I have 2 articles edited and ready for publication already. HH, Quindy.
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Interesting thread!
I will admit that once again I sit here rolling my eyes with over half a dozen heart buckles in my collection from the center of Canada!
I understand the passion for history here but does everything have to be civil war related?
Sorry if I'm being rude. I've followed e-bay lots and posts for almost 15 years now and always notice a ton of general items that I find by the bucket full out here as identified as "Civil war."
I bet I've found more three-ringer's than the average civil war hunter!
I don't doubt for a minute that some confederate soldier had a heart buckle on his horse. So did half the continent!!!!!
Still, it is a nice find.
Cheers,
Dave.
I will admit that once again I sit here rolling my eyes with over half a dozen heart buckles in my collection from the center of Canada!
I understand the passion for history here but does everything have to be civil war related?
Sorry if I'm being rude. I've followed e-bay lots and posts for almost 15 years now and always notice a ton of general items that I find by the bucket full out here as identified as "Civil war."
I bet I've found more three-ringer's than the average civil war hunter!
I don't doubt for a minute that some confederate soldier had a heart buckle on his horse. So did half the continent!!!!!
Still, it is a nice find.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Civil-war-22 wrote:
> I really just think it quite odd the large amount of people that find these in all parts of
> the US where confederate and union armies set foot on.
Bcs123 wrote:
> The facts are they were used by not only cw troops but civilian's as well due to
> the long production runs of the design
When the exact form of a particular "relic" was not invented until after the civil war, it's flatly impossible for that exact form of relic to have been in use during the civil war. There is rock-solid proof that the exact form of buckle-shield found by Eboy1960 was not invented until 1892. I've giving Creskol and Kuger the "main" credit for that information. All I've done is find a copy of the US Patent they mentioned, and make a post-able copy of the inventor's diagram in that 1892 Patent. View the diagram from it, below, and you'll see that what it shows is identical to Eboy's buckle-shield, except for lacking a heart emblem on it.
The earliest known version of metal buckle-shield was invented and patented in the 1870s (see Patent-diagram dated 1879 and an example, below). That earlier version was made of thick solid-cast brass ...and it didn't have a hinged loop on its end. The 1892-patented "improved" version was made of thinner, "stamped" sheet-brass, one end of which was folded under itself to hold a swiveling loop. As I said, you'll see that its form and construction is identical to Eboy's find. It didn't exist in 1861-1865, and therefore it cannot have been used by either soldiers or civilians in that time-period.
Despite what is said in two civil war relic books, the inventor's 1892 US Patent (#466,959) diagram shows it absolutely is not a "Confederate blanket-roll buckle." So, unless you are a collector of 1890s horsegear, please do not pay $265 for the one currently being sold as a Confederate soldier's relic at an Internet auction, nor even $15 for the ones frequently seen on Ebay.
> I really just think it quite odd the large amount of people that find these in all parts of
> the US where confederate and union armies set foot on.
Bcs123 wrote:
> The facts are they were used by not only cw troops but civilian's as well due to
> the long production runs of the design
When the exact form of a particular "relic" was not invented until after the civil war, it's flatly impossible for that exact form of relic to have been in use during the civil war. There is rock-solid proof that the exact form of buckle-shield found by Eboy1960 was not invented until 1892. I've giving Creskol and Kuger the "main" credit for that information. All I've done is find a copy of the US Patent they mentioned, and make a post-able copy of the inventor's diagram in that 1892 Patent. View the diagram from it, below, and you'll see that what it shows is identical to Eboy's buckle-shield, except for lacking a heart emblem on it.
The earliest known version of metal buckle-shield was invented and patented in the 1870s (see Patent-diagram dated 1879 and an example, below). That earlier version was made of thick solid-cast brass ...and it didn't have a hinged loop on its end. The 1892-patented "improved" version was made of thinner, "stamped" sheet-brass, one end of which was folded under itself to hold a swiveling loop. As I said, you'll see that its form and construction is identical to Eboy's find. It didn't exist in 1861-1865, and therefore it cannot have been used by either soldiers or civilians in that time-period.
Despite what is said in two civil war relic books, the inventor's 1892 US Patent (#466,959) diagram shows it absolutely is not a "Confederate blanket-roll buckle." So, unless you are a collector of 1890s horsegear, please do not pay $265 for the one currently being sold as a Confederate soldier's relic at an Internet auction, nor even $15 for the ones frequently seen on Ebay.
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I've never dug one of these buckle covers but have hunted many both Union and Confederate sites. A friend found these hanging on a nail in an old barn and gave them to me. Just thought I'd throw this out there to show if nothing else, they're anything but rare. I kind of wish the cat was never let out of the bag on this one, I'd have a small fortune here 
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I realize that this is an old post,But would like to state this "thought".......Seems like a lot of people seem to think that If there was a CW skirmish or Battle on a piece of ground, Then everything found there has to come from that Battle or fight, Things went on there before AND after, For years and years.
CBG,Kruger,Creskol Have more experience between them than any other 100 hunters between them............Think I'll go with their word......And If that makes some want to Cancel membership then they sound like they Don't want to know the truth....Granny said sometimes the truth hurts BUT, it's still the truth.
just my two cents worth, And I'd rather know the truth than lie to myself........jmho.............Cool finds.............HH
CBG,Kruger,Creskol Have more experience between them than any other 100 hunters between them............Think I'll go with their word......And If that makes some want to Cancel membership then they sound like they Don't want to know the truth....Granny said sometimes the truth hurts BUT, it's still the truth.
just my two cents worth, And I'd rather know the truth than lie to myself........jmho.............Cool finds.............HH
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