Colt navy

[texan connection]

Hi I found this about a yr ago and discovered the serial #'s today also that it was silver plated The serial #'s match on both items (though they were found about 30 feet apart) I also found a powder flask that day I belive belonged in the box with this gun The serial # is 94676 . If any one has any info on the yr issued i would be gratful thank you

 

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[RETREAD]

If indeed it is a Colt Navy the serial puts it at mid 1860 production. Any photos of the powder flask Nice find

 

[Tubecity]

Not an expert but I think the Navy Colt came out in 1851 & was .36 caliber.
Never handled an original but the modern version was well made & a lot of
fun to shoot.

 

[texan connection]

This is the powder flask found about 50 yds away The sopt was a old stagecoach drop and store as well as a cummunity around it b4 the RR came through

 

[Ken from Atlanta]

Thats definitely a colt frame from what I can see, I'd be back there looking for the rest of it!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Here is a parts breakdown. You found two brass parts, trigger guard and backstrap. You may still find the frame, if brass. Below is a modern replica.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

For what it's worth, the triggerbows on Navies were squared at the rear.

I don't believe Colt ever made the 1851 or 1860 in a brass frame (as the above image indicates). Those were clones (polite word for theivery) from firms like Leech & Rigdon ang Griswold & Gunnison

http://www.civilwarpreservations.com/newmus86.html

http://www.civilwarpreservations.com/newmus85.html

Soooo. If that is a .36 Navy size frame with a rounded bow (hard to tell as it is deformed) it might be other than a Colt.

But, just to be confusing, there is a .36 size Colt with a round bow - The 1861 Navy

http://www.civilwar.si.edu/weapons_1861navycolt.html

 

[l.cutler]

Only the earliest 1851 Navy had the squareback guard, they were then changed over to the oval guard for the rest of production. There was also a London version with a steel trigger guard and back strap.

 

[mellowcheddar]

Charlie P. said...

"I don't believe Colt ever made the 1851 or 1860 in a brass frame (as the above image indicates). Those were clones (polite word for theivery) from firms like Leech & Rigdon ang Griswold & Gunnison."

I'm wandering off topic here but do you know why/ how the mocking name of "Leech & Rigdon" came about?

~mellowcheddar~

 

[l.cutler]

Not sure about mocking, but Thomas Leech, a southern sympathizer from St. Louis, and Charles Rigdon, a sword maker and gunsmith, formed a partnership to produce swords and other military equipment.

 

[texan connection]

The EARLY FOURTH MODEL has the larger round brass or iron trigger guard and the lading notch is beveled with a thick barrel wedge. The serial number range is 85000-118500.


The basic 1851 Navy is easily recognized as a .36-caliber, six-shot, single-action percussion with a 7-½ inch octagonal barrel. The barrels are addressed, and the brass backs straps and trigger guards are silver-plated. The round cylinder is non-rebated and non-fluted with small pins near the nipples. These pins serve as a safety feature to keep the hammer away from the capped nipples when not in use. The grips are one-piece wood, and all are hand-fitted to the gun by workers.
Cut and paste from http://www.texasranger.org/dispatch/4/ColtNavy.htm

Wouldent the bootleg models not have the serial's all over the weapons?
This definetly was silver plated.

 

[l.cutler]

This could also be from one of the other model Colt revolvers. 1851 and 1861 Navy and 1860 Army all took the same triggerguard and backstrap, and several other models were very similar.

 

[BuckleBoy]

Wow! Nice find!! Here's a link to a powder flask like yours:

http://cgi.ebay.com/old-powder-flas...ryZ73979QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Yours is indeed a Colt Navy flask--but I think the one on eBay at the link above is a reproduction like this one:

http://possibleshop.com/flask2.htm

-Buckleboy

 

[Monty]

An observation. The back strap and piece that attaches is different than the schematic of the Navy Colt. Monty

 

[warsawdaddy]

I cannot remember any brass on my g'g'g'father's 1851 Navy colt that he carried during his Santa Fe Trail and Civil war days.I use to get the pistol out of the closet when I was a kid quite frequently and I just can't remember any brass.We kept it finely oiled and clean.

 

[texan connection]

Click on the link i provide you will see there were man variations. What part doesent match the schematic it looks right to me.

 

[Monty]

Your backstrap connects to the grip at the bottom while the schematic backstrap connects at the side or back. Monty

 

[texan connection]

I have #1 and # 30 do you mean # 13, I dont have that part

 

[l.cutler]

The parts do match the schematic. I have taken apart and repaired a ton of the repros. Neither attaches to the grip, the grip is just held in place by the frame, triggerguard and backstrap.

 

[Monty]

I'm talking about part 30 and 13. If that's what I am looking at on Texan Connection's find. Monty