Wayne, I did not know that about the caps, my bad, but I am sure it was something else. I really wanted to bounce stuff off you about things that are at our location, but I am glad in a way that went down it was getting too nasty and to many, times I was misquoted by one poster in paticular several times. anyway, can we send private messages? Or is that a violation, if so we will not do that, but I really do not want to interact with the negativity it takes up to much time. If for any reason you feel that that you do not or can not, or should not share info that is fine I understand. thanks Jeff.