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I'm not sure it you saw but I posted links to very nearby mines above with production rates. I'm confused on their minerology. One ore is listed as argantite, which is the silver. The other lists granite as the host rock and the ore as "gold." Does that mean the granite contact a regular quartz vein that itself was the ore? I thought host rock meant that you were actually processing. Another mine lists quartz monzonite. This looks similar to granite, so is that what they were processing, or just the rocks that the actual quartz vein was in?
I’m not a hard rock expert. I would expect the ore was found in the contact zone with at least one side being granite. Likely there was gold in the quartz at some concentration, but many times the gangue? material located between the quartz and the granite might have a higher concentration of gold. Perhaps we might get an education if someone more educated should respond.
 

I’m not a hard rock expert. I would expect the ore was found in the contact zone with at least one side being granite. Likely there was gold in the quartz at some concentration, but many times the gangue? material located between the quartz and the granite might have a higher concentration of gold. Perhaps we might get an education if someone more educated should respond.
I talked to a buddy who’s been involved in a couple mines around there and he said it’s usually on the hanging wall between the quartz and granite so it sounds like you were right.

He also said there’s much higher grade than what is listed and mentioned a mine pulling out a golf ball size nugget a couple times a month. So fingers crossed…


Looking at a geology map, the adit is right at a junction of sedimentary, unconsolidated, and igneous (granodiorite), and heads towards the igneous. Interesting
 

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I talked to a buddy who’s been involved in a couple mines around there and he said it’s usually on the hanging wall between the quartz and granite so it sounds like you were right.

He also said there’s much higher grade than what is listed and mentioned a mine pulling out a golf ball size nugget a couple times a month. So fingers crossed…


Looking at a geology map, the adit is right at a junction of sedimentary, unconsolidated, and igneous (granodiorite), and heads towards the igneous. Interesting
Does the term “pocket gold” get tossed around in that area? If so, I’d get a gold detector and detect the area below the mine for surface “float gold” if it’s pocket gold country…and there is a relatively narrow dry drainage directly below the audit, I’d try to dig to bedrock. Many times there are coarse nuggets laying just 3’ down on bedrock. Thousands of years of erosion. Nothing the old timers would chase due to the lack of water and the small volume of “pay gravel”. Just my theory based on my area in far Northern California. Maybe based on experience. They would chase it up the hill to the source and focus what they could easily get out of the heart of the watermelon. Usually limited to the oxidized bedrock layer. That’s usually shallow for granite, usually deeper for the material opposite of the hanging wall.
 

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Does the term “pocket gold” get tossed around in that area? If so, I’d get a gold detector and detect the area below the mine for surface “float gold” if it’s pocket gold country…and there is a relatively narrow dry drainage directly below the audit, I’d try to dig to bedrock. Many times there are coarse nuggets laying just 3’ down on bedrock. Thousands of years of erosion. Nothing the old timers would chase due to the lack of water and the small volume of “pay gravel”. Just my theory based on my area in far Northern California. Maybe based on experience. They would chase it up the hill to the source and focus what they could easily get out of the heart of the watermelon. Usually limited to the oxidized bedrock layer. That’s usually shallow for granite less so usually for the material opposite of the hanging wall.
Can't. Someone else's placer claim. Huge tailings piles, but from what I've read they been gone through countless times anyway.
 

I talked to a buddy who’s been involved in a couple mines around there and he said it’s usually on the hanging wall between the quartz and granite so it sounds like you were right.

He also said there’s much higher grade than what is listed and mentioned a mine pulling out a golf ball size nugget a couple times a month. So fingers crossed…


Looking at a geology map, the adit is right at a junction of sedimentary, unconsolidated, and igneous (granodiorite), and heads towards the igneous. Interesting
The part about golf ball size nuggets is interesting.
 

Can't. Someone else's placer claim. Huge tailings piles, but from what I've read they been gone through countless times anyway.
That’s great! They may have encountered coarse gold while placer mining and moved up the hill to the source. Not unheard of. My post above was edited a couple times.
 

There were many mines that simply ceased operation because the material got hard and the blasting costs turned ore into gold bearing rock.

Others simply dropped everything to follow the next strike based on newspaper accounts and rumors. Very common.
Of course you always have WW1 as well.

You might detect your tailings pile and see if there are square nails. A lack of blasting caps usually indicates it’s an early workings (oxidized material). Black powder.

It’s useful to be able to date your workings because the cost of gold at the time plays a role in what was considered ore at the time. The modern miner may have spent their time and effort mostly digging collapsed areas out and shoring.
 

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That’s great! They may have encountered coarse gold while placer mining and moved up the hill to the source. Not unheard of. My post above was edited a couple times.
That area has been worked 50x over. From what I’ve read about the history it may have been the other way around. Some mines were abandoned after they saw the placer potential and went on to bucket dredging.


Wish I could figure this out. A line of heavies comes out of even the sulfides. Looks and acts like gold from a distance, but isn’t.
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That area has been worked 50x over. From what I’ve read about the history it may have been the other way around. Some mines were abandoned after they saw the placer potential and went on to bucket dredging.


Wish I could figure this out. A line of heavies comes out of even the sulfides. Looks and acts like gold from a distance, but isn’t. View attachment 2182989
Well it really depends on the era. Hard rock mining around here became popular in the late 1860’s 1870’s after the easy placer was mined out. It peaked in the late 1890’s. The bucket dredging occurred during the 1930’s gold rush. There was a decent gap between the two eras due to WW1.
I see blasting caps towards the end of the 1890’s onward into the 1930’s.
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That area has been worked 50x over. From what I’ve read about the history it may have been the other way around. Some mines were abandoned after they saw the placer potential and went on to bucket dredging.


Wish I could figure this out. A line of heavies comes out of even the sulfides. Looks and acts like gold from a distance, but isn’t. View attachment 2182989
I take it that there is no mill site nearby to look at the tailings?

The finer values that are around 200 -400 mesh may be hanging out with the 60 - 125 mesh sulfides?
 

I take it that there is no mill site nearby to look at the tailings?

The finer values that are around 200 -400 mesh may be hanging out with the 60 - 125 mesh sulfides?
No. By the way its set up it looks like he was taking it elsewhere to process. There's a ramp that goes down below where the ore cart rails end.

There's a small dump nearby, but it looks like its just the gangue material.


I have tried everything but I don't think are smaller valuables. I throw it all under a microscope. I even just took that weird yellow line posted above and dropped it in some aqua regia. Stannous chloride had almost no reaction with it. It just seems like abnormally heavy quartz??

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A lot of rust and no gold.
The ore material is likely removed from that location for processing.
The ore rock is something else most likely.
 

When things warm up try digging up all of the waste rock on the floor of the tunnel to see if some of the unknown ore rock is there. Look for something different then the rock you have shown.

May not hurt to get out the metal detector in some spots areas?
For sure the gold pan for samples.
 

When things warm up try digging up all of the waste rock on the floor of the tunnel to see if some of the unknown ore rock is there. Look for something different then the rock you have shown.

May not hurt to get out the metal detector in some spots areas?
For sure the gold pan for samples.
Hard to detect much with the tracks, bolts, and old air pipe. But if I find a spot I’ll definitely pull it out.
 

Hard to detect much with the tracks, bolts, and old air pipe. But if I find a spot I’ll definitely pull it out.
There are some methods to use a VLF inside of a steel area with limited depth in the process. May be better to smash the samples and pan however. There needs to be a lot of metal in the samples to give a realistic response. Just pointing out as most will not even try along this line of thinking without trying.
 

I think it was common at older diggings that ore was hand sorted in the tunnel by candle light and ikely hauled off on a mule. Barren tailings to one side of the dump and marginal material not qualifying as ore dumped to the other side and counted as “reserves”.
You can see in historical photos many of the ore cart tracks forked at the tailings dump pile.

Probably not a rule of thumb, but I know it was done at some small mines.
 

I think it was common at older diggings that ore was hand sorted in the tunnel by candle light and ikely hauled off on a mule. Barren tailings to one side of the dump and marginal material not qualifying as ore dumped to the other side and counted as “reserves”.
You can see in historical photos many of the ore cart tracks forked at the tailings dump pile.

Probably not a rule of thumb, but I know it was done at some small mines.
If one can not find or locate the "Milling site" it will be hard to take a look at the tailing piles.

If hand sorting took place at any point in the tunnel there should be at least some ore rock on the bottom of the tunnel floor that did not make it into the carts to look for. This left over ore rock will be useful to find and speed up the process of what to look for. If the rock was not cleaned out completely.
 

If it was my choice I would use a high banker out side of the audit / tunnel and process the material from the floor of the mine to look for some color / rock to crush and process further.

The better light will also help with some hand sorting of the larger rock etc.
 

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