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This was found in the Midwest MO .. It was found 8ft below ground level.... Not sure what kind of stone it is but it feels dense like marble. It has some crazy carvings on it and it is kinda creepy. Let me know what you think about it.
 

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Monstercrack, I might just do that.....
 

Don't give up FulkV, all I'm going to say. (I've been in your shoes before, I've walked into Anthro Departments before)

We don't know what we don't know.

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Charl said:
I don’t believe, were I an American archaeologist, whether working in American prehistory, or prehistory of any ancient culture, or working in historic archaeology for that matter, that receiving that image is going to scare me in the least.


Does anyone honestly believe a typical reaction is going to be “Uh, oh. This could be a big problem. This looks like it might upset the consensus interpretation of prehistory in the Americas”. If one thinks that would be the first reaction, I can only say I doubt it. Nobody is sitting there in their campus office saying “hope I don’t get any archaeological anomalies today. They scare the daylights out of me.”


I can think like a professional. It ain’t that hard. They happen to be human like myself, and I’ve seem a lot of artifacts, from a lot of cultures. My first reaction, with that in mind, might be along the lines of “I have no idea what I’m looking at”, or “what the heck is that?” I might think “well, that’s a mish mash”. Really, the last thing I’m gonna think is “uh, oh, this is dangerous to my world view”.


Since I’m usually courteous when someone sends me photos of things, I might at least write back “Sorry, but I’ve never seen anything like that, and I have no idea what it is or who made it, or when it was made”.
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Afraid might be an exaggeration, but I bet it will be difficult to get a clearly stated opinion with a paper trail.
 

FYI - This object was found in the vicinity of a "well known Hopewell site" that has had human habitation for 8-10,000 yrs. We have hundreds of artifacts that have came from this area but nothing that compares to this one. It was found in a creek bank 8 feet below ground level, but we all know creeks will change course. It was an "eyeball find".
 

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Alabaster ??
 

In charls link it says alabaster is soluble, so not likely as the carvings seem sharp to me. Still hope you can get some answers, if that’s legit, which I think it is, it’s the coolest piece of rock art I’ve seen.
 

Charl said:
I imagine he’s suggesting the material. Google is our friend....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabaster
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I know what alabaster is. My question marks were in reference to the fact that FulkV hadn't posted in nearly three months and suddenly resurrected the thread with a somewhat cryptic one word post. You can "imagine" whatever you'd like. My post was a prompt for FulkV to post additional information. Thanks for your input.
 

Doubter in MD said:
I know what alabaster is. My question marks were in reference to the fact that FulkV hadn't posted in nearly three months and suddenly resurrected the thread with a somewhat cryptic one word post. You can "imagine" whatever you'd like. My post was a prompt for FulkV to post additional information. Thanks for your input.
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You’re welcome. Anytime....
 

This thread is very long in mystery and very short in information, which bothers me to no end.

With no attachment to “Hopewell Culture”, other than locality; and a fair and logical explanation for how deep it was found (8’ along a river bank), we are left with no evidence of attachment or any tangible clues.

The staining on it looks weird (IMO), and (if it is made of stone) the detailing is micro or miniature and polished. Without modern tooling methods, how was it detailed? I doubt Hopewell or Adena or any Woodland time period.

I can see why everyone is stumped.

It has a celluloid look to it. Or some early plastic compound.

https://images.app.goo.gl/DS4xXGFCfzuas1Pw6

https://images.app.goo.gl/Zr3gqd5JgLwTokpEA

If you insist that it’s “Carved” and that it is “Stone”, I’ll take your word for it. But may I ask if you can post some well-lit closeup clear photos to show grain and tooling marks?
 

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I keep coming back expecting some closure. The op bumping the thread with a one word post is odd. Far too little info here. If I found that there would be a detailed account of the find and I would be actively searching out experts to validate it.
 

Doubter in MD said:
Of that I have no doubt.
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Sorry, man. I thought “google is your friend”/“google is our friend” was a common saying, not a mocking saying. Not trying to mock you at all, you only left question marks, so I posted the link to a description of alabaster. You only left ???, I couldn’t read your mind, it seemed like the logical thing to do was post a link to alabaster. Wrong assumption on my part. I apologize.
 

Charl said:
Sorry, man. I thought “google is your friend”/“google is our friend” was a common saying, not a mocking saying. Not trying to mock you at all, you only left question marks, so I posted the link to a description of alabaster. You only left ???, I couldn’t read your mind, it seemed like the logical thing to do was post a link to alabaster. Wrong assumption on my part. I apologize.
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No worries. I edited my previous post to add the laughing smiley face. I meant for it to be humorous. Sorry about that.
 

I'm gonna bump this because it's freakin weird, and I missed it.

Sure this could have stuck in a creek bed just 5 years ago, or last month. But still it's not like anything modern? A mysteriously lost one off piece of art?
 

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