Carved stone

[FulkV]

This was found in the Midwest MO .. It was found 8ft below ground level.... Not sure what kind of stone it is but it feels dense like marble. It has some crazy carvings on it and it is kinda creepy. Let me know what you think about it.

 

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[Eolith]

Its simply an axe head, so yes an Indian artifact, and this thread already has a piece of portable rock art, this threads subject is the posters amazing figure stone find? you guys can try debunk my find as not being an obvious axe head if you like? anyone who knows flint can see what it is. I don't know why you've blocked my picture post, totaly on topic.

 

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[flyadive]

You said it feels dense like Marble , but to me it looks like melted figures as if perhaps there were a number of figures inside a ceramic or glass container that was exposed to extreme heat and melted together into a blob.
Also 8’ down a river bank sticking out the side of the bank? Or did you actually did 8’ down with a backhoe ? Eyeball find?

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Its simply an axe head, so yes an Indian artifact, and this thread already has a piece of portable rock art, this threads subject is the posters amazing figure stone find? you guys can try debunk my find as not being an obvious axe head if you like? anyone who knows flint can see what it is. I don't know why you've blocked my picture post, totaly on topic.

Your post with picture was moved to geofact.

This forum is about North American Indian Artifacts, not "portable art". If you wish to post portable art posts, you can post it on our geofact forum.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

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[ecmo]

Wow that is a very interesting and ornate object in its own way. I'm not at all knowledgeable in artifacts or follow this segment of the forum, I came across it while clearing out my email and the tital saying found in Mo. as that's where I'm from. Also found it interesting as a period of Hopewell is mentioned here and there is hill not far from me called Hopewell hill.

 

[FulkV]

Just an update. I submitted the pictures to 3 professors at KU but it has had no response....

 

[Fred250]

Maybe if you offer to donate it? Lol. Bummer, good luck trying to find info.

 

[Older The Better]

I wouldn’t be too disappointed, schools in Kansas are shut down for the rest of the school year. they may not be too interested in checking emails.

 

[Charl]

I wouldn’t be too disappointed, schools in Kansas are shut down for the rest of the school year. they may not be too interested in checking emails.

Yep. Timing will be off if seeking info these days:

https://coronavirus.ku.edu/node/1

 

[FulkV]

Update: Nothing new.. dang corona... I did forward pictures to the museum at Cahokia Mounds.

 

[A2coins]

I gotta say that is really cool looks like alot of work went into it if it was hand carved I wouldnt be able to sleep till I got some info on it. I hope its a great piece of history. Keep us posted and thanks for sharing it with us that is so awesome looking.....Welcome to tnet also Tommy

 

[Fred250]

In my opinion people are more likely to respond to email these days as they are working on-line and have less to do. If you were going to get a response you would have likely already, as I’m sure professors are still being paid so probably required to check email as my wife who is a teacher is. I hope you find someone to take a look.

 

[FulkV]

I really think it scares them because it doesn't fit in their archaeological "Rule Book"................... but who know, I just want to know more about it............

 

[Older The Better]

I think anybody considered a professional would be right to be careful what they attach their name/reputation to. This rock is very different they may be protecting their jobs by avoiding speculation. I’ve had plenty of very general answers and open ended assessments on several things I’ve asked professors and museum folks about. Hopefully someone is brave enough to take a stab at it.

 

[FulkV]

Older The Better.. I think you hit the nail on the head Sir.. I was just waiting for someone to say it.. I would NOT donate it to KU because it would go in a draw/box in their basement at the anthropology museum or get destroyed because it doesn't fit their agenda....

 

[EccentricInTexas]

I would suggest sending photos of it to some university Professors or experts. There were known trade routes between the Mississippi culture and Central and South American cultures at one time. Its certainly interesting!!!

 

[Charl]

I don’t believe, were I an American archaeologist, whether working in American prehistory, or prehistory of any ancient culture, or working in historic archaeology for that matter, that receiving that image is going to scare me in the least.


Does anyone honestly believe a typical reaction is going to be “Uh, oh. This could be a big problem. This looks like it might upset the consensus interpretation of prehistory in the Americas”. If one thinks that would be the first reaction, I can only say I doubt it. Nobody is sitting there in their campus office saying “hope I don’t get any archaeological anomalies today. They scare the daylights out of me.”


I can think like a professional. It ain’t that hard. They happen to be human like myself, and I’ve seem a lot of artifacts, from a lot of cultures. My first reaction, with that in mind, might be along the lines of “I have no idea what I’m looking at”, or “what the heck is that?” I might think “well, that’s a mish mash”. Really, the last thing I’m gonna think is “uh, oh, this is dangerous to my world view”.


Since I’m usually courteous when someone sends me photos of things, I might at least write back “Sorry, but I’ve never seen anything like that, and I have no idea what it is or who made it, or when it was made”.

 

[Older The Better]

Delete... ha still don’t know how from app

 

[unclemac]

Delete... ha still don’t know how from app

I have actually run into archaeologists before that are stumped on things I have found. The first thing they do is take pictures of it from many angles and send them off to folks that they know who may know more.

 

[monsterrack]

Fluke V send it to Jim Bennett he will tell you all you want to know and he handles artifacts from all over the world. He is the top and most trusted in the market of ID of artifacts.