Cape Canaveral National Seashore Metal Detecting

[FISHEYE]

Terry,

What do you know about the bronze cannons that nasa buried in the area behind the dune line north of klondike beach and south of apollo beach?

 

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[wavecrazed]

How close is that picture from the beach? Is tha national seashore?

It was pretty close.
Here is another about the same distance.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v152/wavecrazed/pics228.jpg?t=1261636684

 

[Hangingfor8]

There are things along the cape shore that will blow your mind. Fisheye and I walked a long way last year and we were soon visited by a ranger on a four wheeler asking for our "paper work" Thankfully fisheye knew the ropes and we were ok, but it was really odd. I've gone back several times and I'll go back many more in the future. If they ever let us md in the area I know exactly where I'm going. It's a blessing and a shame that they've made the cape a national preserve. I'd almost go as far as to say that the Cape could make the treasure along the Wabasso area look like pocket change.

 

[FISHEYE]

Will,

You may want to look into getting a job as a ranger there.That job will have fringe benifits.

 

[Sorroque]

This area is of the utmost interest to me.
Mrs. Butterworths pancake syrup. Mmmm yum g o l d e n pancakes.
"...under the cover of darkness of n i g h t and h e a v y r a i n Mr. Buttersworth notice some strange men coming ashore with a heavy object." 'They were out there quite awhile'. "They seemed to have buried something and then got back into their boat and paddled off."
'That treasure chest was later extracted by Mr. Butterworth and he retired a very wealthy man!'.
True story about Panther Key, Florida.
playALINDA this game.
update 12/30/09:
There are huge alligators that crawl these beaches both night and day.

 

[FISHEYE]

Here it is:A Job At the Cape.

Herpetology Intern
Categories:

* Herp - Herpetology (Reptiles, Amphibians)

Canaveral National Seashore
With 24 miles of Atlantic Coast barrier island, Florida's Canaveral National Seashore provides sanctuary for an abundance of flora and fauna, shelters an estuary rich in shellfish, crustaceans and marine fish and offers a fascinating spectrum of human history and the resulting cultural sites and artifacts. Share this sanctuary with the sea turtles you'll be monitoring.
Monitor the nesting of three sea turtle species, document their nest locations, post nest sites with basic data, screen nest cavities to discourage predators, enter field data into Access database and compile data collected in the field into useful report formats, 65%; operate and maintain ATVs on the beach, prepare nest protection supplies for use in the field, assist park resource management staff in establishing monitoring protocols and collect data on flora and wildlife distributions, 35%.
Requirements
Drivers License
US Citizen
Required Skills:
US citizenship; valid driver`s license; ability and willingness to undergo a required criminal history background check; minimum 2-3 years academic coursework in biology or outdoor education; ability to collect scientific data in an accurate, complete manner; ability to work independently; ability to work closely with volunteers, park staff and researchers; willingness to work alone at night in a hot humid environment that includes stinging and biting insects.
Desired Skills:
Ability to drive 4WD and manual transmission vehicles; BA/BS degree in biology or other natural science; working knowledge of Excel and Access computer programs; strong interpersonal communication skills; ability to work as part of a team.
Training:
Safe operation and maintenance of 4WD pick-ups, ATVs and ATV trailers; sea turtle identification methods; hazardous materials safety.
Housing
Location:
Onsite
Description:
Housing is a shared house within the park.
Details:
Agency will provide housing: The agency has made some sort of housing arrangement for the intern.
Transportation
Personal Vehicle:
Required: No other transportation is available to reach shopping facilities or worksite from housing location. Little possibility exists to share rides with other employees. Distances are too far to walk. Any mileage over the budget travel amount will be the responsibility of the host site.
Universally Accessible:
No
Date Flexibility:
Flexible 1-2 weeks Start or end date is flexible within 1-2 weeks

http://www.thesca.org/taxonomy/term/84/all?page=2

Whoever gets the job.Let me know

 

[signumops]

Terry,

What do you know about the bronze cannons that nasa buried in the area behind the dune line north of klondike beach and south of apollo beach?

Hey Fisheye:
Menendez spiked them and rolled them into the lagoon. If I understood the story correctly, they were buried under Pad 39A, but I'm not sure about that... they still might be in the soup. Take it for what its worth.

 

[billinstuart]

I watched 39 A&B being built. They piled up a HUGE pile of dirt, let it sit for a long time, then scraped it all away. I suspect the dirt went to the crawlerway. Don't know where the dirt came from, though. It was dam impressive to a 17 year old HS kid making $11/hr. in 1965 working at "the Cape".

 

[Sorroque]

The job mentioned is an Intern job.
I know a guy who is qualified for this job but he thinks they may not hire him because of his age, over 55.
When a college student has studied this environmental science and is in limbo of his schooling and a job that he is qualified for but cannot find a job, they seek this kind of "Intern" job.
My visit to the Florida Historical Society was interesting. You haft to remember that treasure is a link to vandalism so the first and only thing that comes to mind is the other. 'But I do not see them out there with metal detectors for the Historical Society either.' There are ancient coins and need to be appreciated,!
The government, whoever they are, should allow access to metal detectorists for Summer and Fall Seasons!
Playalinda is a nudey beach, ( real nice looking women too!) , and there were posted signs that read "No metal detectors allowed".
Is it a joke? Nudes don't have anything on so what could they lose?
Since no detecting has been allowed for the reasons of historical values, there must be a ton of coins, clad, and jewelry on the "family" section of Park because Playalinda is a National Park!

 

[wreckdiver1715]

Its not like they are going to put anything they find into there pockets...

 

[bikerlawyer]

It would be a good source for funding the Space Program!

 

[itmaiden]

The Space Program costs a medium sized Treasure Ship everytime they send the space shuttle up. Your tax dollars at work for someone elses "big toy".

itmaiden

It would be a good source for funding the Space Program!

 

[Sorroque]

Its not like they are going to put anything they find into there pockets...

Right ! But maybe here; Read page 79. Six foot pit the size of a hogs head the shipwreck Spaniards buried treasure from treasure ships wreck there . This was in 1500's! So there Is buried treasure here! But , where? : http://books.google.com/books?id=Pj...&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Canveral&f=false
"...southwestern extremity of the cape...". Where would be southwest? Extremity goes east.
Is this island of Sorrope not the same as the Surruque village ? I know where that is. There are two ghost towns in this vicinity, one near Ormand Beach,Nocorro. And one further south, Soccorro. Now since a soccorro is and aid and or supply station, Pentagram "house of safety treasure symbol", would it not be a place to secure treasure too? It seems to me it would be.
December 1st., 1941: Archaeologists were not successful in finding a fort which housed 2,000,(two thousand), soilders on the East coast of Florida. So where is Fort Sorroquez? The Asian Morning Dove does not hoot "sorroque", Hitchiti were family parent tribe of the ; Sorroque, Tiacuma, and Tekoite. "We come from where the sun comes from", the meaning of Hitchiti. Tiacuma,Old meaning for the state of florida, "wind,or water, or , dirt on the skin". "Tekoite" is what the Florida Finch Bird chirps. Thus thier names and meanings. Tekoite is also an Iraqi tribe from the Bible, 2 Sam. 23 vs. 26.. Noah was Iraqi, and could talk to the animals. Anyway, it was the land of the Riseing Sun that took out Pearl Harbor 6 days later. *Girga"shy"its were Iraqi too,("Vigilante", magic), "they lost a significant battle and come back totaly victoriuos, Bible.(NOT "Terroists" ),! Tekoite made tiki's that they dipped in either enemy or animal blood preserved the wood, and they gave as gifts. According to Bible, you are not suppose to meddle with the Persian Babylonian war, "give a gift and walk away". What more perfect than a tiki from the Tekoite to the Tekoite!?
So now we go to the Year 1689 when Sorroquez was founded and then was burnt down by Tekoite. Where is it?
It would be an interesting find today,Too late for the incident of Pearl Harbor, but to Intelligently offer the Nation of Iraq an appropriate gift and explanation.
*word is G-i-r-g-a-s-h-i-t-e-s.
You have hurricane seasons of course that wreck ships here. You have wartime submarines that prowled and sunk ships out of port Canaveral. Then you have the north easter winds that blow across these sandbar flats, known as "The Bulls " in February and March. I worked as a part time mate and deck hand on the Miss Cape Canaveral in 1983. There were times it did not go out because of the huge waves caused by these winds. Small vessels could capsize out here and get drowned if stuck on ground. Shallow water .

 

[diverlynn]

The Polly L was just out at the Canaveral Inlet as support for Great Lakes Dredge Company, they will be dredging and depositing the sand on the beach. Unfortunately They have a 1' screen over the dredge equipment due to the chance of mines being sucked into the pipes. Guess there wont be anything found there.

Lynn

 

[FISHEYE]

Who wants to go fishing at the cape this weekend?Heres a pic of my TEG u/w 3 inch coil Md and my modified beach fishing rod with its new handle base.The teg doesnt have any sound.It vibrates when metal is detected and actually has a form of discrimination.I can tell by the way it vibrates the difference between iron and non ferrous metals.

 

[Sorroque]

I enquired recently to metal detecting in Florida state Parks. I visited the websites for Cape Canaveral National Seashore, where many ships sank on the shore and treasure was on them and, and Wakulla Springs National Park, Deepest Spring in the world found by Ponce de Leon, a tourist trap, Fountain of Youth.
The reply:
Playalinda: Correction: Anatasia Island
Thank you for your interest in Florida State Parks. Yes, metal detecting is allowed within this park only along the Atlantic Ocean coastline between the toe of the dune and the waterline.

Florida Administrative Code, Chapter 62D-2 which provides rules and regulations for Florida State Parks does not specifically address the use of metal detectors; however it prohibits any ground disturbing activity which is a product of metal detecting. As a result, guidelines for the use of metal detectors as stated in the Florida State Parks Operations Manual are as follows:

1. Due to the tidal influence in coastal areas, the use of metal detecting devices are allowed in coastal parks, in a zone between the waterline and the toe of the dune, as determined by the Park Manager, except at archaeological sites within the zone designated by the Division of Historical Resources (DHR) or the Park Manager.

2. For the recovery of lost personal items that are specifically identified by their owner as being lost in a specific area of a park. The owner of lost property or his representative should contact the park manager who will arrange a time for the search to be conducted in the presence of a park staff member. During these searches, only the item sought may be kept by the owner or his representative.

Any dug hole(s) associated with the use of a metal detector must be refilled to the contour of pre-dig conditions using excavated material.

Sincerely,
Leylani Velez
Information Specialist
Wakulla;
Thank you for your interest in Florida State Parks. Unfortunately, we do not allow metal detecting within these parks; it is only permitted in coastal parks on the beaches in specified areas.
"... ... ", the same as the rest of the letter above.

 

[itmaiden]

Are you sure about your spelling for Sorroquez ? I have found a couple of map references for something similar, one near the Cape and one in the Carolinas if I remember correctly ?

If you can get me something that is definitely accurate or more details, I may be able to help you locate this ?

itmaiden

 

[mad4wrecks]

Sorroque wrote:
Playalinda:
Thank you for your interest in Florida State Parks. Yes, metal detecting is allowed within this park only along the Atlantic Ocean coastline between the toe of the dune and the waterline.



Playalinda is part of the Canaveral National Seashore and falls under the jurisdiction of the federal government, not the state of Florida.

 

[Sorroque]

Sorroque wrote:
Playalinda:
Thank you for your interest in Florida State Parks. Yes, metal detecting is allowed within this park only along the Atlantic Ocean coastline between the toe of the dune and the waterline.



Playalinda is part of the Canaveral National Seashore and falls under the jurisdiction of the federal government, not the state of Florida.

Right !
My emails were from, Anatasia Island and Wakulla Springs park.

 

[Sorroque]

Are you sure about your spelling for Sorroquez ? I have found a couple of map references for something similar, one near the Cape and one in the Carolinas if I remember correctly ?

If you can get me something that is definitely accurate or more details, I may be able to help you locate this ?

itmaiden

Yes I am certain about the spelling.

I have invited to this discusion, (not here@Tnet), a proffesional archeologist that did the Windover digs to my questions about: Sorrope,Surruque,Sorroque, villages. Tekoite, tribe, and the Tiacuma whom were all the same sect of family of the Hitchiti which are now vulgarly renamed by the government that polished them off, Mickasoukee, different than the original Miccosoukee.
Also Sorroquez, and the pirates named, "Sir Rogue", and "Sir Rock".
The archaeologist with the mess,!, of degrees shall be out on assignment and should be back the 16th.
Here is her: Dr. Rachel Wentz
Regional Director
Florida Public Archaeology Network
East Central Region
435 Brevard Ave.
Cocoa, FL 32922
321-690-1971