🥇 BANNER Bottle with a note inside 5 to 6 inches deep in the ground.

[Ditlihi]

rolloand yobrodoit or I will

Lol!

 

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page 7

he get to
?? it so
he be boss
here
the next day
he told them
all
se about it
Kindly Family
and way
there means
he killed me
if they could
not drove me
in there
the night before
me hid the
house so they
didnt catch
me and kill
me

View attachment 1486821[/QUOTwe hid by houseE]

 

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Close :

I think this is closer.
I also Think YOHRADRICK (spelling) is a place

Re: ROLLAND IN
YOHRADRICK IN 1896
MILK WAGON
View attachment 1487214

My Latest Translation

ITS THE ONE
HERE JUST THE SAME TALK SAME
GIRL ROBBED ME
AND I LOOKED AT HER
------------------------------
WAS GOING
TO SHOOT ME
WITH A 38
REVOLVER

SO THEY MAKE
ME STAND A
LOG CABIN
ALL DAY AND
IF I DID NOT
SO THEY COULD SHOOT
ME AT ONCE
ROLLAND IN

YOHRADRICK IN 1896
MILK WAGON
YELLING IN Road
HE SEE ABOUT IT
I HAD TO GO IN
THERE THE NEXT
DAY ALL DAY TO
-------------------
Roland Go
YOHRADRICK
Wife
Joe Hoates
wife
house Too.
all were ready to drive me
in ther or
smash my
head with
rock if
if Roland Not
Get be boss .
Drunk
Roland Come
to Log Cabin
Crying Me Green
Horn wanted to
steal his cottage
and Every thing
---------------------
HE GOT TO
FIX IT SO
HE BE BOSS
HERE

THE NEXT DAY
HE TOLD THEM
YOHRODRICK HE
SEE ABOUT IT
KINDLY FUNNEY
ANY WAY

THAT MEANS
HE KILLED ME
IF THEY COULD
NOT DROVE ME
IN THERE
THE NIGHT BEFORE
wE HID BY
HOUSE SO THEY
DIDNT CATCH
ME AND KILL
ME

yobroduit yo bro do it

 

[BIGSCOTT]

Of the two Hubaceks above, im going with the one who worked for wagnor and was married to mary and had two children living with them
thats the one i posted earlier in the thread, they are all buried in the same cemetery in wadena county minnesota.

fyrffytr1, are you having trouble with the family search site, i cant get the original census to come up, i can do
way better detective work when I can see those also the original draft registration every male in america had to
sign up for the draft, Ive seen kids as young as 12 and lod geezers in their 90's signed up for the 1917 draft
and you can jog through and find other people in the same area that signed up and more often than not where they worked.

it was working fine last week then they worked on it, maybe i need to report it, one of these days im going to get ancestry.com back
if you have that and fold three, newspspers.com, and newspaper archives.com and findagrave then you can search some history.

 

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lol

 

[BIGSCOTT]

I couldnt open the pics above tried going advanced and see if yall can get a closer look.

 

[jeff of pa]

for Comparison all 3 Times he wrote it

View attachment 1488000

View attachment 1488001

View attachment 1488002

Last Letter R , K, or h

first 3

Yah Yoh



Could be Read 2 Ways

as Person

Rolland In.

Yahradrik in 1896 Milk Wagon

as Place

Rolland In Yahradrik
in 1896 Milk Wagon

Just starting to sink in

Because of Period. and other 2 uses.
I'm wrong about
Yahradrik being a place.
duh

 

[neodetectorist]

When I see the ledger "Butchers Daily Report" I cant help to think about the movie "Fried Green Tomatoes" and what happened in that movie.
The secret is in the sauce.
Is there a missing person in this note?
Is there a diner nearby that hosted BBQs?

 

[jeff of pa]

When I see the ledger "Butchers Daily Report" I cant help to think about the movie "Fried Green Tomatoes" and what happened in that movie.
The secret is in the sauce.
Is there a missing person in this note?
Is there a diner nearby that hosted BBQs?

Yep ! "ME"



Who was "Me"?
Arty Kendy ?
Heriet Jang ?
Other ?

 

[Bramblefind]

I think the name could be Zahradnik or Zohradnik. Here is an 1885 census entry (I think unrelated - just to show the script) showing that name in script and how it looks similar to the name in the notes.

This could all be referring to events that happened in Linn County, Iowa. Frank Hubachek was from that area before he was in Wisconsin, there is a Zahradnik family there too.

I also thought maybe the name was "Anton Holets" and maybe "farm"? (under "Frank Rolland" and "Frank Hubecheck" and above the dates 1895 1899). Anton Holets was in Linn County, Iowa too at that time.

 

[jeff of pa]

There was a Zahradnik in Minnesota 1902

The Minneapolis journal. (Minneapolis, Minn.), 01 Oct. 1902.



The Minneapolis journal. (Minneapolis, Minn.) 1888-1939, October 01, 1902, Page 9, Image 9 « Chronicling America « Library of Congress

 

[WolfmoonX]

If you are a member of ancestery dot com, looking up the names on there might help. Might be able to pinpoint locations of them at least. Or more documents like newspapers. Drop a full list of names here and I could look into them myself but I might not be able to do so till this evening or tomorrow.

 

[Ditlihi]

I've searched my fingers to a nub, lol, but the only place I found every name, ( with the exception of Yohedrick or any combination thereof ), was in the CCC Rolls for Wisconsin.

There I found:

Frank Roland/Rolland/Rowland

Frank Hubechek

Arthur Kennedy

Joe Holtz/Holets

....all in the same directory.

There were CCC camps near Chippewa Falls, WI and Rochester, MN both in that time period (1936). Now I'm wondering if this is some disagreement arising from one of those camps? Times were hard and being "boss" might mean the difference in $30 mo. pay vs. $40. I dunno, it's making me crazy, lol.

Sparta CCC District, Sixth Corp Area Annual :: Turning Points in Wisconsin History (searchable database)

CCC Camps Minnesota

CCC Camps Wisconsin

I'm sure learning a lot of interesting history about this area and the time period, though. Always a plus in my way of thinking. And who doesn't love a mystery. Kudos again to everyone trying to solve this one!


Oh, almost forgot...while researching Quarry Hill where this was found, I was looking for info on the slaughterhouse and ran across an item about a theft of some dynamite from the dynamite shed during this same period. Was quite a stir at the time, as the President was scheduled to visit Rochester in the next few days. The theft was investigated by the FBI as a possible plot, and extra precautions were made to protect him. Quite interesting times indeed.

Fossil Hunting

* last paragraph at bottom of page

 

[PullTabPete]

Very cool find and nice research everyone.

One heck of a mystery.

Pete

 

[BIGSCOTT]

I wonder did the CCC help build those two asylums.

 

[Iron Buzz]

I've searched my fingers to a nub, lol, but the only place I found every name, ( with the exception of Yohedrick or any combination thereof ), was in the CCC Rolls for Wisconsin.

There I found:

Frank Roland/Rolland/Rowland

Frank Hubechek

Arthur Kennedy

Joe Holtz/Holets

....all in the same directory.

There were CCC camps near Chippewa Falls, WI and Rochester, MN both in that time period (1936). Now I'm wondering if this is some disagreement arising from one of those camps? Times were hard and being "boss" might mean the difference in $30 mo. pay vs. $40. I dunno, it's making me crazy, lol.

Sparta CCC District, Sixth Corp Area Annual :: Turning Points in Wisconsin History (searchable database)

CCC Camps Minnesota

CCC Camps Wisconsin

I'm sure learning a lot of interesting history about this area and the time period, though. Always a plus in my way of thinking. And who doesn't love a mystery. Kudos again to everyone trying to solve this one!


Oh, almost forgot...while researching Quarry Hill where this was found, I was looking for info on the slaughterhouse and ran across an item about a theft of some dynamite from the dynamite shed during this same period. Was quite a stir at the time, as the President was scheduled to visit Rochester in the next few days. The theft was investigated by the FBI as a possible plot, and extra precautions were made to protect him. Quite interesting times indeed.

Fossil Hunting

* last paragraph at bottom of page

Holy Shoot & Shinola!! You found ALL of those names... every one... in CCC rolls? Pretty hard to ignore that! Didn't say what camp or state they were in? (I haven't dug into your links yet). I think you're onto something here!

 

[Iron Buzz]

This could be our Frank Hubachek. He was 92 in 1986, which would have made him 42 in 1936, which seems reasonable. The only problem is that he was with that firm during that period.

Lawyer Frank Hubachek, 92 - tribunedigital-chicagotribune

Frank Brookes Hubachek, 92, senior partner of Hubachek & Kelly and a long-time Chicago lawyer, was the retired chairman of the executive committee of Household International, formerly Household Finance Corporation (HFC). He served as the lending firm`s general counsel from 1927 to 1967.

Memorial services for Mr. Hubachek, a resident of Glencoe for 57 years, will be 4:35 p.m. Friday in the Glencoe Union Church, 263 Park Ave., Glencoe. He died Monday in Highland Park Hospital.

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Enter a Minnesota connection with what may be a family member:
https://cfc.cfans.umn.edu/facilities/hubachek

Hubachek Wilderness Research Center
A gift of $2.5 million from the Chicago family of Frank Brooks Hubachek Sr., who established the Wilderness Research Center and Foundation, ensures continuation of wilderness research in northern Minnesota.

 

[trdking]

I've searched my fingers to a nub, lol, but the only place I found every name, ( with the exception of Yohedrick or any combination thereof ), was in the CCC Rolls for Wisconsin.

There I found:

Frank Roland/Rolland/Rowland

Frank Hubechek

Arthur Kennedy

Joe Holtz/Holets

....all in the same directory.

There were CCC camps near Chippewa Falls, WI and Rochester, MN both in that time period (1936). Now I'm wondering if this is some disagreement arising from one of those camps? Times were hard and being "boss" might mean the difference in $30 mo. pay vs. $40. I dunno, it's making me crazy, lol.

Sparta CCC District, Sixth Corp Area Annual :: Turning Points in Wisconsin History (searchable database)

CCC Camps Minnesota

CCC Camps Wisconsin

I'm sure learning a lot of interesting history about this area and the time period, though. Always a plus in my way of thinking. And who doesn't love a mystery. Kudos again to everyone trying to solve this one!


Oh, almost forgot...while researching Quarry Hill where this was found, I was looking for info on the slaughterhouse and ran across an item about a theft of some dynamite from the dynamite shed during this same period. Was quite a stir at the time, as the President was scheduled to visit Rochester in the next few days. The theft was investigated by the FBI as a possible plot, and extra precautions were made to protect him. Quite interesting times indeed.

Fossil Hunting

* last paragraph at bottom of page

Egads I just got sucked into reading this entire thread. Pretty nifty. I do not have the time to get sucked in but my two cents on the CCC Rolls and someone getting a Cabin stolt would be that the boss would have a cabin provided with their pay. If a Green horn were coming up to take over the old boss would lose the cabin and have to move out to make room for the new guy. This was the depression era and someone could (and did) get their heads knocked in for something like this.

 

[Ditlihi]

I wonder did the CCC help build those two asylums.

I don't think so BS, the hospital opened in 1879, and no further major construction til 1948. Can't rule it out though. I'm trying at present to determine if one of the CCC camps was near the hospital, which might offer an explanation for how the bottle came to be found near the slaughterhouse on the hospital farm. I'm still puzzling how this person obtained the butcher slips though. And I just noticed the printed date on the slips say 190_ ? Dosn't fit the 1936 time period.

 

[Ditlihi]

Holy Shoot & Shinola!! You found ALL of those names... every one... in CCC rolls? Pretty hard to ignore that! Didn't say what camp or state they were in? (I haven't dug into your links yet). I think you're onto something here!

I'm still plodding through the record I linked to....this may take awhile, lol. I had only plugged the names into the database search on the document and verified all names were found. Having to track them down now. The document is for the state of Wisconsin. Will have to find one for MN if it's even available.