Big brass round piece with a shield and stars

[Truth]

I just went to this New site and above 12 inches down or more I got this round medallion which has a shield and stars on it and before I wet it I think I saw a soldier with a sword going in the shield but I could be wrong. Now I can?t seem to Recognize as much on it. Any help would be appreciated it?s 73.8 mm

 

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[erfranks]

Looks like the Seated Liberty that is on the Trade Dollar, which came out later.... but i see a wreath around the stars... very cool find

 

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[Vermont treasure hunter]

Great find! I see lady liberty with her arm out with a shield leaning on her with star above them. There is a floral design around the edge and it seems like there is something behind what ever she is standing on, though I can’t tell what it is. I also see 18?? Under Lady Liberty and the shield. That’s just what is see. Can we see a pic of the back? Is there anything on the back?

 

[Truth]

Looks like the Seated Liberty that is on the Trade Dollar, which came out later.... but i see a wreath around the stars... very cool find

I looked at my 1870 trae dollar and the shield is leaning to the left

 

[Mud Hut]

It has all the right "flavors" to be a militia shoulder plate... I don't have a book to verify that though.

 

[Truth]

Great find! I see lady liberty with her arm out with a shield leaning on her with star above them. There is a floral design around the edge and it seems like there is something behind what ever she is standing on, though I can?t tell what it is. I also see 18?? Under Lady Liberty and the shield. That?s just what is see. Can we see a pic of the back? Is there anything on the back?

It appears to be lead
I can?t see any date but I do say or think I see her holding a staff of some sort like a long Spear

 

[Truth]

It has all the right "flavors" to be a militia shoulder plate... I don't have a book to verify that though.

Yeah but mud wouldn?t have the iron hooks?

 

[smokeythecat]

Yes, I see Liberty there also. So...maybe we start with what it is NOT. Not a coin. Probably not a breastplate. Also probably not a horse rosette. I have seen similar items as decorations on cast iron stoves (I know, not romantic.), also with some very large furniture types. If a military piece it would have been in the books and I didn't see anything like it. Sometimes commemorative (big) medals were made with similar motifs for trade fairs, world's fairs, on steam tractors or other engines, industrial companies, etc. It may be hard to pin down.

 

[ARC]

Yes, I see Liberty there also. So...maybe we start with what it is NOT. Not a coin. Probably not a breastplate. Also probably not a horse rosette. I have seen similar items as decorations on cast iron stoves (I know, not romantic.), also with some very large furniture types. If a military piece it would have been in the books and I didn't see anything like it. Sometimes commemorative (big) medals were made with similar motifs for trade fairs, world's fairs, on steam tractors or other engines, industrial companies, etc. It may be hard to pin down.

Correct... NOT a coin.

 

[Vermont treasure hunter]

Looking closer, it MIGHT ( a very big might) say 180?.

 

[MKW]

Looking closer, it MIGHT ( a very big might) say 180?.

Yep...I really think I see a date under the bottom horizontal line.

 

[DiggerKid2003]

Whatever it is, it’s the kinda find that gets the heart pumping. Congrats!

 

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[Truth]

Latest pics I?m gonna take me a little nap and quit obsessing

 

[Truth]

Yes, I see Liberty there also. So...maybe we start with what it is NOT. Not a coin. Probably not a breastplate. Also probably not a horse rosette. I have seen similar items as decorations on cast iron stoves (I know, not romantic.), also with some very large furniture types. If a military piece it would have been in the books and I didn't see anything like it. Sometimes commemorative (big) medals were made with similar motifs for trade fairs, world's fairs, on steam tractors or other engines, industrial companies, etc. It may be hard to pin down.

I agree smokey I think it?s some kind of commemorative piece for a fair or what not. I can honestly say it was deep 12? +

 

[ARC]

Rare Civil War Patriotic Stickpin.

These were "unusually large".

Here is the one i posted's description... which is not yours from what i can tell... but none the less... i believe it is what you have found... a variation of this.

" 1 3/4" copper shell badge with Lady Liberty, a shield and an eagle, inscribed "The Union Must and Shall Be Preserved". Scattered verdigris in the recesses. Unusually large and the only example we have encountered."

 

[Mud Hut]

Yeah but mud wouldn?t have the iron hooks?

Not necessarily .. some just had pin attachments.

 

[Red-Coat]

It looks to me like there may be a lighthouse in the background to the upper left of the American shield, and a small building with a pitched roof to the right of that. Possibly another to the left of the lighthouse. Maybe also an ocean horizon running across the piece at about that level.

 

[ARC]

Rare Civil War Patriotic Stickpin.

These were "unusually large".

Here is the one i posted's description... which is not yours from what i can tell... but none the less... i believe it is what you have found... a variation of this.

" 1 3/4" copper shell badge with Lady Liberty, a shield and an eagle, inscribed "The Union Must and Shall Be Preserved". Scattered verdigris in the recesses. Unusually large and the only example we have encountered."

...
I will add... IF in fact it is this... a form of this...

It would be EXTREMELY rare...Possibly the only example known.

But... ?
Read the above description and break out the tape measure.

--- EDIT...

Never mind i just reread op and saw size... yours is larger.

Still patriotic emblem... perhaps hat badge / pin or the likes.

 

[Truth]

...

I will add... IF in fact it is this... a form of this...

It would be EXTREMELY rare.

Possibly the ONLY example known.

But... ?

Read the above description and break out the tape measure.

--- EDIT...

Never mind i just reread op and saw size... yours is larger.

Still patriotic emblem... perhaps hat badge / pin or the likes.

No this thing is heavy it would never stay on a hat or any kind of clothing. 7.86 oz

 

[invent4hir]

Truth, that is one great artifact Looking at the "date" the "0" looks shorter than the 8 to the left of it. Be that as it may, I looked up important U.S. events between 1800-1810 at https://www.thoughtco.com/timeline-from-1800-to-1810-1774034. Several relate to the Lewis and Clark expedition. Maybe your find is connected to that.