A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

[mdog]

I am trying out several different ideas at sites from the crisscross spot

(I believe the hidden crisscross spot is absolutely essential for them and us to find the treasure)

I also believe the key from the crisscross spot has to do with 30 varas or 82.5 feet at many of these storages.

This is where we have to ask a couple of questions, first are we dealing with a triangle and the crisscross spot is one point of it or possibly even a cross.

Second is it just a straight line or chain trail to the entrance from the crisscross spot(the chain trail is not likely as it would be very short but if so they would be buried markers), these are the pieces that I am trying to prove and will share with you guys if/when I do.

I am also very fortunate in some cases that I can use the aura (if it is small and pinpointable) because it gives me a fairly good idea of what direction to go from the crisscross spot.

Now if they used a map from the crisscross spot, they could have gotten away with no markers at all as it could just be a single distance and direction from the crisscross spot, I am not really an advocate for this idea because we know they used visual alignments which means they would have to verify the map from the crisscross spot with some sort of a line of sight marker.(this would mean that everything was aligned visually and not with a compass, and that is not possible with a buried entrance as you cant actually see it)

In other words how can they get a direction to a buried entrance from a map standing at the crisscross spot without a compass or a rock marker that they could see above ground? The distance is not a problem its the direction that is the issue.

Remember what I said many moons ago you have to have two pieces of information to find these treasures Distance and Direction from a marker/crisscross spot.

So to sum it up, I am working on using the crisscross spot as a viewing platform to look for another marker from or possibly as one point of a Triangle or Cross and of course any buried markers.

Food for thought guys.

If you're looking for something visual, from the crisscross site, without a compass, you might consider the use of a pole right at the crisscross site that would cast a shadow that could give you the right direction at a specific time of day. I know, I know, it worked for Indiana Jones, but if you think about it, it might be something worth looking at.

 

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[sandy1]

If you're looking for something visual, from the crisscross site, without a compass, you might consider the use of a pole right at the crisscross site that would cast a shadow that could give you the right direction at a specific time of day. I know, I know, it worked for Indiana Jones, but if you think about it, it might be something worth looking at.

I believe that I told you guys about the rock with the horse shoe before, if not here is a brief summery, there was a diary of a Jesuit that had information of a buried treasure, it had to do with a boulder with a horseshoe carved on it and at first light of January first a man would stand on this boulder at 5 foot 3 inches tall (originally in mm) and the shadow he casts will mark several saddlebags of buried treasure.

So yeah you could be right on that M.

 

[sandy1]

I have an interesting question.

Is there anybody here on Tnet that could find/locate the entrance to a treasure if you were put within 50 feet of the buried treasure?

(I am referring to the type of treasure that has the markers that I have shown on this thread)

(This excludes dowsers)

I am surprised nobody came forward with equipment or the final knowledge of these sites as I have at least one that I would be willing to share.

 

[Barton]

Hello Sandy, Post 1491

I will walk out on a limb here--simply hunches or speculation
1 The map rock is directionally located--if it it is uncovered with out moving it mark it --north
2 If it is arrow shaped--that is probably the way to go
3 Is something on the map rock--relating to a bible story?
4 Do you see the bible story around you in the rocks from the cross spot?
5 Way out speculation here: Suppose Jesus was temped by the devil as in his time in the desert or
Mary was at the base of the cross praying for her son---Is there a alter type rock you would pray at near by
6 Suppose your at the cross spot--and you look around and you see a lion laying down with a sheep--that would be a bible parable
7 NEVER DIG--NEVER DIG AT A GOLD COLORED STONE
8 NEVER DIG WITH OUT A EXCAPE PATH
9 NEVER DIG WITH OUT GOING UP HILL 200 YARDS---AND SEEING WHAT BOULDERS COULD POSSIBLY COME FLYING DOWN THE HILL AT YOU!!!
10 JUST BECAUSE YOU CLEARLY SEE THE DXXXX TRAP ON YOU LEFT AND YOUR RIGHT -- DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE NOT MISSED THE ONE IN THE CENTER --RIGHT WHERE YOUR DIGGING

BARTON

I am just trying my best to throw out some reasonable possibilities-- Barton

 

[tinhorn]

Couple of thoughts... 1, where I'm at, when you see a large landmark monument, on top, there are often maps to explain the trails in the area. When these trails are followed, you will run into smaller maps that show areas of importance. Around here they use drill holes a lot. For example, one has a triangle made of one inch drill holes, then there are two .5 inch holes outside the triangle. This may mean, find the crisscross spot, then the triangle, then the openings as illustrated on the map. But you could not find anything without this piece of information at the break of the main trail.
2. I think we make things more complicated than they are. I bet when you stand in the crisscross spot and photo 360 that shadow signs and eyes and small pointers are also present to confirm.... I just wish I had more time to be out there!
Thank you Sandy for letting us tag along

 

[sandy1]

I have heard others say that the final info was on the previous markers as well.

 

[Crosse De Sign]

I have an interesting question.

Is there anybody here on Tnet that could find/locate the entrance to a treasure if you were put within 50 feet of the buried treasure?

(I am referring to the type of treasure that has the markers that I have shown on this thread)

(This excludes dowsers)

Remember there is that missing piece of information from the crisscross spot to the entrance (which is very close by) that you either need a detector for or a map or some other knowledge of the markers that I have not shown.

I agree, but what if it is as deep as 30 feet? or has a tunnel that runs into the treasure?

I am trying out several different ideas at sites from the crisscross spot

(I believe the hidden crisscross spot is absolutely essential for them and us to find the treasure)

I also believe the key from the crisscross spot has to do with 30 varas or 82.5 feet at many of these storages.

This is where we have to ask a couple of questions, first are we dealing with a triangle and the crisscross spot is one point of it or possibly even a cross.

Second is it just a straight line or chain trail to the entrance from the crisscross spot(the chain trail is not likely as it would be very short but if so they would be buried markers), these are the pieces that I am trying to prove and will share with you guys if/when I do.

I am also very fortunate in some cases that I can use the aura (if it is small and pinpointable) because it gives me a fairly good idea of what direction to go from the crisscross spot.

Now if they used a map from the crisscross spot, they could have gotten away with no markers at all as it could just be a single distance and direction from the crisscross spot, I am not really an advocate for this idea because we know they used visual alignments which means they would have to verify the map from the crisscross spot with some sort of a line of sight marker.(this would mean that everything was aligned visually and not with a compass, and that is not possible with a buried entrance as you cant actually see it)

In other words how can they get a direction to a buried entrance from a map standing at the crisscross spot without a compass or a rock marker that they could see above ground? The distance is not a problem its the direction that is the issue.

Remember what I said many moons ago you have to have two pieces of information to find these treasures Distance and Direction from a marker/crisscross spot.

So to sum it up, I am working on using the crisscross spot as a viewing platform to look for another marker from or possibly as one point of a Triangle or Cross and of course any buried markers.

Food for thought guys.

I am surprised nobody came forward with equipment or the final knowledge of these sites as I have at least one that I would be willing to share.

I have heard others say that the final info was on the previous markers as well.

Sandy1, discussing & posing your thought provoking questions, so is this like:

Pages of clues, enticers, & some previously shared & valuable info discussed...
Either you are toying with us , or this is like an advanced lesson/test

Not all totally clear, somewhat like the secret info or knowledge needed,
from the criss-cross, to find many of the entrance dig spots?

 

[Barton]

Has anyone here ever seen the trees "Talking" or giving "MESSAGES"?

For example seen a tree jumping back in alarm from a Snake?
Or seen a tree reaching out too three small rocks?

Another thing I have seen near a cache site is the shepherds with cattle and sheep, the manger with Jesus and the tomb with the round
boulder that the Angels rolled away after Jesus was crucified. Nearby was a site where you could sit down and from that position only
there were seven hoyo's you could see.

So possibly:
1. the trees show you
2. You see a Bible parable
3. The rocks show you
4. There are "U" notches you see at the dig spot
5 there are hoyos you see at the dig spot
6 A wizard can give directions
7 A witch can give directions
8 A eagle can give directions
9 A diagram in stone can show you
10 Sombreros can show you
11 The devil can be looking at the treasure ( Jesus )

I simply fail to have any answer that works all the time--it is like to me if you track the old trails
At one Spanish cache site you have a lot of markers--and you may understand some of them--
When you go to a new site 50 % of the markers are the same--yet there will be some different ones
and different meanings of some of them you have to figure out.

Barton

 

[sandy1]

CDS, Even though I have used equipment in the past, I would like to solve the markers that go to multiple treasure spots which I only have a part of those answers, using the markers are specifically how they went back to these treasures but they didn't use the same markers (or at least not in the same configuration) on every treasure site so I am trying to figure out different sites markers related to the entrances.

 

[Crosse De Sign]

sandy1,

That sounds like a really cool angle to look at it. Could that way
possibly help to find potentially quicker, & more reliable results,
if a pattern or technique with consistency was to be figured out?

 

[sqaush]

I am trying out several different ideas at sites from the crisscross spot

(I believe the hidden crisscross spot is absolutely essential for them and us to find the treasure)

I also believe the key from the crisscross spot has to do with 30 varas or 82.5 feet at many of these storages.

This is where we have to ask a couple of questions, first are we dealing with a triangle and the crisscross spot is one point of it or possibly even a cross.

Second is it just a straight line or chain trail to the entrance from the crisscross spot(the chain trail is not likely as it would be very short but if so they would be buried markers), these are the pieces that I am trying to prove and will share with you guys if/when I do.

I am also very fortunate in some cases that I can use the aura (if it is small and pinpointable) because it gives me a fairly good idea of what direction to go from the crisscross spot.

Now if they used a map from the crisscross spot, they could have gotten away with no markers at all as it could just be a single distance and direction from the crisscross spot, I am not really an advocate for this idea because we know they used visual alignments which means they would have to verify the map from the crisscross spot with some sort of a line of sight marker.(this would mean that everything was aligned visually and not with a compass, and that is not possible with a buried entrance as you cant actually see it)

In other words how can they get a direction to a buried entrance from a map standing at the crisscross spot without a compass or a rock marker that they could see above ground? The distance is not a problem its the direction that is the issue.

Remember what I said many moons ago you have to have two pieces of information to find these treasures Distance and Direction from a marker/crisscross spot.

So to sum it up, I am working on using the crisscross spot as a viewing platform to look for another marker from or possibly as one point of a Triangle or Cross and of course any buried markers.

Food for thought guys.

Please forgive me , i haven't been on here in a while and i havent gone back and read the 100s of posts that I have missed but i thought the criss cross was the spot to dig.

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[sandy1]

Sqaush it can be but not consistently which is why I am trying to figure out the spots that go from it.

CDS if there is a pattern that is consistent at multiple sites, that would be the ultimate find in treasure hunting. I have shown that multiple sites have the same types of markers and it is not at all likely they used a different method at each site to mark the treasure entrances.

 

[miboje]

I am surprised nobody came forward with equipment or the final knowledge of these sites as I have at least one that I would be willing to share.

In a way I can see why no one would come forward on this web site. Rangler used to post a lot of stuff, but he got a lot of flack.
I'm looking forward to everything you share with us, Sandy1.

 

[Maverick1]

Same happened to dign. Honest old timers (with real knowledge) don't like bull.

 

[miboje]

Same happened to dign. Honest old timers (with real knowledge) don't like bull.

Yep. And unfortunately, for whatever reason at the time, they were not stopped from this behavior even though it was evident that the hecklers were thread-jacking, which is supposed to be prohibited according to forum rules. Perhaps thread-jacking was not prohibited at the time, but this is a treasure forum. Who knows what information was never shared and never will be because Dign/stilldign and Rangler appear to have left the forum.

 

[sandy1]

Yeah it can be tough to weather through some of the attacks that's for sure, but it sure helps when I have guys like you actually wanting the information.

 

[Quinoa]

Actually a couple of those guys you are better off that they are gone. There is absolutely no way you would find a treasure trying to follow what they were posting, you would be led around in circles. They did identify some of the markers, which anyone can do, but they never had any idea how to use them. Sandy1's stuff is pretty straight forward and can put you right on top of a treasure, even starting from a mile out.

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

Actually a couple of those guys you are better off that they are gone. There is absolutely no way you would find a treasure trying to follow what they were posting, you would be led around in circles. They did identify some of the markers, which anyone can do, but they never had any idea how to use them. Sandy1's stuff is pretty straight forward and can put you right on top of a treasure, even starting from a mile out.

Exactly! He backs his stuff up with his photos. Look at the others, maybe 10 photos of there own,if that. They where just gleaning others photos and info. while sending them off on a wild duck chase. Look at the experts threads and prove me wrong. Look there's a duck,you better reverse direction and get out of there. Look you can move that with your foot,its not a sign.

 

[elh]

Yeah it can be tough to weather through some of the attacks that's for sure, but it sure helps when I have guys like you actually wanting the information.

Keep on going with it Sandy as you never know who nor how many are gaining from your post's. AND, if I were closer and younger you would have to kick me outta your way. 84 is a bit old for those rough places ( especially with arthritis all over ) and Al. is a long ways off.
Best of the week to you.

 

[Maverick1]

Gentlemen, this is not a contest here. You are all correct. The previous comments were not intended to take away any of the excellent
merits and efforts that Sandy has accomplished through his extensive work and experience. As i have previously said, my hat is OFF to him.

Nevertheless, we are comparing apples to oranges. The previous guys deserve their place in the BIG SCHEME OF THINGS, at least in the very
beginning, before they got carried away. ( like many humans do)

Nobody can take you from your couch or car, through the mountain/desert trail directly and straight into the right hole to start your dig.
That kind of accomplishment comes with years of grinding exhausting efforts, lots of sweats, bruises, thirst and self-doubt at times.
With all that,....comes experience. Only your own experience will teach you to SIFT THROUGH all written information by others, including:
apples,oranges,Kenworthy, etc,etc.

My personal comments here are not meant to anguish nor to be-little anybody, and absolutely not intended to offend. Peace.