A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

[Chadeaux]

Sorry, point taken. Im new at this thread thing. Was out in the desert and wanted info before I dug further and didn't know where to turn.


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Not a problem ... I didn't know you were invited to post those images. I was thinking they might get lost in someone else's thread.

As I said, some interesting pictures.

 

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[sandy1]

Hi sandy,

Would these make a good shaft, squared U sign?
This is the first time I have shown, posted this pic.
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CDS you could very well have a shaft sign with an alignment rock there, notice how the close rock is in line when your looking through the shaft sign, the close rock could be one of two that align to a crisscross spot, or even just the shaft sign and the rock are the two used as an alignment.

 

[Jakeellison82]

It is possible since it is by itself, but it may look better from a different angle, all the ones I have seen have a well defined standing back from a certain angle.

Hmm, here are some other pics at the base of the mountain


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[Jakeellison82]

The last one almost looks like they pored cement down the from of the rock to make that marker, or to cover something up [emoji848]


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[Jakeellison82]

Also is you zoom
I'm on the gray rock beneath the cement you can see what I believe is an owl (very faintly)


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[Jakeellison82]

And numbers to the left of that. I don't know Howe to read them though


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[sandy1]

Jake instead of looking at markers in the cliffsides try and look for markers that are standalone and independent of the cliffs, think of it as a cairn, something that would be standalone, The markers that are really important will for the most part be separate or different from its surroundings.

 

[AIORIA]

Also is you zoom
I'm on the gray rock beneath the cement you can see what I believe is an owl (very faintly)


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Jake, You MAY be standing a few feet from the crisscross spot in this picture that I've highlighted for you. The big boulder has a shadow heart that can probably be seen best from far away when the sun is at noon time and after. No doubt that is a shadow heart. The triangle/pyramid shaped boulder peaks seem to be used as alignments... The one on the right side aligns with the boulder that has a diamond on it and the one on the left side aligns with the oval head shape that looks like a big turtle head sticking out looking right at you. I can even make out the eyes, nose, and mouth but I didn't highlight those features I only circled it in red.

There seems to be a small "Sentinel" or old mexican placed turtle on the left side of the picture. The shell and head I circled in GREEN and I also colored the eyes of it green. The shell seems to have a lightning bolt for the side of its shell and the head is looking up towards the bigger turtle head circled in red (that's looking at you) and where the alignments intersect. The yellow circle is the crisscross spot and where you may want to dig.

I could be wrong but I'm only working with what you've shown us. You may also be right about the cement... It may be covering something up but most likely it was used as confirmation and to be seen from farther out either by the Spanish or by sentinels long after.

Click the picture to make it bigger then click again, and then once more to maximize so you can see the small turtle shell and head that I circled in green. Its shell may also be an owl and a lightning bolt.

 

[sandy1]

Jake, You MAY be standing a few feet from the crisscross spot in this picture that I've highlighted for you. The big boulder has a shadow heart that can probably be seen best from far away when the sun is at noon time and after. No doubt that is a shadow heart. The triangle/pyramid shaped boulder peaks seem to be used as alignments... The one on the right side aligns with the boulder that has a diamond on it and the one on the left side aligns with the oval head shape that looks like a big turtle head sticking out looking right at you. I can even make out the eyes, nose, and mouth but I didn't highlight those features I only circled it in red.

There seems to be a small "Sentinel" or old mexican placed turtle on the left side of the picture. The shell and head I circled in GREEN and I also colored the eyes of it green. The shell seems to have a lightning bolt for the side of its shell and the head is looking up towards the bigger turtle head circled in red (that's looking at you) and where the alignments intersect. The yellow circle is the crisscross spot and where you may want to dig.

I could be wrong but I'm only working with what you've shown us. You may also be right about the cement... It may be covering something up but most likely it was used as confirmation and to be seen from farther out either by the Spanish or by sentinels long after.

Click the picture to make it bigger then click again, and then once more to maximize so you can see the small turtle shell and head that I circled in green. Its shell may also be an owl and a lightning bolt.

A, there are what looks to be some markers in Jakes picture however the all crucial sign that is missing is the Shaft Sign which he needs in order to know there is a shaft in that area.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

....Click the picture to make it bigger then click again, and then once more to maximize so you can see the small turtle shell and head that I circled in green. Its shell may also be an owl and a lightning bolt.

Aioria and gang: I've looked at the pix in #1136 . And I'm willing to bet that if I took a picture of any random landscape (rocks, trees, cliffs, bushes, etc....), that I too could find various designs. You could draw lines to connect random points, and make a bunny shape, a smiley face, a turtle, a big dipper, etc......

Do you think you *might* be reading a ... uh .... bit too much into random landscape features ?

 

[AIORIA]

Aioria and gang: I've looked at the pix in #1136 . And I'm willing to bet that if I took a picture of any random landscape (rocks, trees, cliffs, bushes, etc....), that I too could find various designs. You could draw lines to connect random points, and make a bunny shape, a smiley face, a turtle, a big dipper, etc......

Do you think you *might* be reading a ... uh .... bit too much into random landscape features ?

Tom, if you read my previous post you'd see that I clearly stated that I could be completely wrong. I am not there and can only speculate based on what I can see in the picture.

I admit that the possibility of cloud reading SOME rocks exists but only because i'm looking at it through someones picture and am not there physically at the site in order to investigate it 360 degrees and get other crucial confirmation markers that have been discussed such as the the shaft sign that Sandy1 previously mentioned.

I still wouldn't discount that spot. There's a few other things you can do JAKE like whip out your lensatic compass and stand at the crisscross and let us know if those boulders align or not since you're there and i'm not. Also, standing square at the crisscross spot, looking directly at the large boulder with the shadow heart, keep your compass square to that boulder and take a bearing.

Let us know if it's dead on or close to one of the cardinal points N,S,E,W. I don't know why but I get the feeling it's dead on WEST, or 5-10 degrees off of WEST cardinal point but it could be any of the 3 other cardinal points. You MAY have more confirmation that the layout is not coincidence.

 

[mdog]

I personally can't make that claim in all honesty, and I can't speak for anyone else. The ONLY thing I claim is that the information about the specific treasure markers, boulders, alignments, and compass bearings are ALL VERIFIABLE by anyone who chooses to go out and take a look for themselves.

As far as I know you DID get that already in Sandy's treasure vault guide. All EXCEPT the vault in situ and what was inside.


OBVIOUSLY and I bet you're "THE MAN'S" butler. So far we can see what it's done to MANY on this forum who are viciously attacking the information without ever having put it to the test. SENTINELS in my humble opinion. This information has spread around the world thanks to the internet. Just because a few of us are posting doesn't mean THOUSANDS of others aren't out applying this info and I can bet my lunch money that's exactly what's been happening ever since the information was first disclosed 9 months ago.

Sdcfia isn't a sentinel anymore than Sandy is. They have both offered a lot of information in their posts and free for us tnet readers. I have learned a lot from both of them. For somebody looking for facts to verify a hunting technique or a treasure legend, proof is required. For somebody who has made a recovery, it would be a bad idea to show proof of that recovery. Read the posts and find what you can use and forget about the other stuff.

 

[AIORIA]

There's also the obvious thing you can do to determine if that's a genuine dig spot or not Jake. Standing at the crisscross that I showed you, turn slowly 360 degrees and see if you can spot OTHER ALIGNMENTS of 2 or more boulders coming IN to where you are standing. IF SO, then you are definitely standing at the spot. Good luck.

 

[Crosse De Sign]

Sdcfia isn't a sentinel anymore than Sandy is. They have both offered a lot of information in their posts and free for us tnet readers. I have learned a lot from both of them. For somebody looking for facts to verify a hunting technique or a treasure legend, proof is required. For somebody who has made a recovery, it would be a bad idea to show proof of that recovery. Read the posts and find what you can use and forget about the other stuff.

The big difference is, whether or not one goes on another thread,
where they're not the OP, & is getting off topic & working to create doubt,
rather than offering helpful info in a respectful manner, which is a better example...

 

[Backwoodsbob]

Sweet Cross! Is that your place?

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[Backwoodsbob]

Aioria and gang: I've looked at the pix in #1136 . And I'm willing to bet that if I took a picture of any random landscape (rocks, trees, cliffs, bushes, etc....), that I too could find various designs. You could draw lines to connect random points, and make a bunny shape, a smiley face, a turtle, a big dipper, etc......

Do you think you *might* be reading a ... uh .... bit too much into random landscape features ?

Too bad tom. I was in California for 3 week. I could have given you a lesson on this stuff. Maybe next time I can.

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[mdog]

New Mexico Confidential:30 Years of Snooping in Obscure Places by Stephen D. Clark is a book that I have posted about many times since it was published. If you find Sandy 1's Guide to Vault Treasure Hunting interesting, you should check out New Mexico Confidential. Sandy's Guide is about the widespread use of the same treasure setup from one cache site to another. Steve's book has information about an organization capable of creating such sites. Here is my own experience with a site like Sandy describes and how Steve's book led me past that site to something bigger.

I was lucky enough to find a site like Sandy describes on public land close to my home. It took me four years to find the final symbols and the open hole associated with the symbols. During that time, I asked tnet members to pm me if they had a site similar to what I was studying. Nobody ever did so I assumed that nobody had found such a site. When New Mexico Confidential was published, I noticed, right away, that there were things in Steve's book that I found at the place I was studying. Large geometric layouts using landscape modification, place names, cemeteries, related buildings and even treasure legends. The more I studied Steve's book the bigger the cache site got, moving out from the original site to include much larger areas and finally to the point that showed the original site, hole and all, could have been a decoy and one corner of a huge triangle. In other words, the cache site similar to Sandy's was, as a whole, one point on a triangle. The most promising point on that huge triangle was on corporate property with 24/7 security, feet away from a highway, a railroad track and a river big enough to float a big boat.

If anybody is interested in Sandy's vault guide, I think you might like New Mexico Confidential.

 

[sandy1]

There is no doubt that triangles have been used to mark treasures.

 

[mdog]

The big difference is, whether or not one goes on another thread,
where they're not the OP, & is getting off topic & working to create doubt,
rather than offering helpful info in a respectful manner, which is a better example...

You've been in the treasure legend forums before. Those guys are hardcore when it comes to slapping the bull on the butt. Treasure hunters are a breed apart from normal people. They suffer the elements and go into places that would kill an unseasoned hunter. They thrive in the wilderness and take unnecessary risk in their search for excitement and treasure. When they disagree, things get testy, but so what. Usually things cool off and they go back to sharing information.

 

[sandy1]

Mdog, I am going to cross over from your thread and answer your question "why would the sentinels guard the treasures, leaving them in the ground instead of digging them up?"

First, if you knew how many of these vaults are out there (alot) you would realize that it would be a massive undertaking and if the sentinels were to try and dig a lot of them up they would be discovered by the public.
Second, these vaults are actually very secure, there are not many vault treasure hunters in the world and the law keeps most people from ever even trying to dig any of them up.

On top of all of that what good does any of these treasures do for sentinels who are already rich, so keeping them in the ground for safekeeping until they do need some of the treasure is their best option, they do dig some up here and there in remote locations.