A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

[mdog]

Thanks Quinoa.

 

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[Quinoa]

I checked back, the center of the triangle is at 315 degrees from the eye, which is a quadrant bearing. The spots where the lines cross is at 300 degrees and about 123 feet from the eye.

Most of the hoyos , especially the long range ones will be on 15 degree increment bearings to what they are pointing out. Common ones are 270/90 (east west) 330/150, 240/60 , 210/30, and quadrants like the 315/135 and 45/225 or even a half quad of 202.5/22.5 which is a very common one from a mariner's compass.

 

[mdog]

I checked back, the center of the triangle is at 315 degrees from the eye, which is a quadrant bearing. The spots where the lines cross is at 300 degrees and about 123 feet from the eye.

Most of the hoyos , especially the long range ones will be on 15 degree increment bearings to what they are pointing out. Common ones are 270/90 (east west) 330/150, 240/60 , 210/30, and quadrants like the 315/135 and 45/225 or even a half quad of 202.5/22.5 which is a very common one from a mariner's compass.

Thanks again. Have you ever seen any of these eye shaped holes up high and carved to site on the horizon? I know this would defeat the purpose of finding a cache on the ground, but I'm interested in hearing about sites where the eye shaped holes show the sunrise or sunset during the summer and winter solstice. Thanks again.

 

[Barton]

Quinoa, Post 668

"Mdog, I've seen so many of these type monuments that I didn't bother much with it except to take a few pictures of it. I was working a couple nearby sites at the time of which there are at least a half dozen in that canyon. If I were to work it sometime I would draw a line from the bottom corner thru the pentagon rock , and a second line from one top corner thru the other top corner going to the left and find the point where the 2 lines cross. "

Sorry--- I am a little slow--but if I did not understand it clearly--then there may be others too who did not understand you clearly.
Could you diagram this in your photo of the three rocks??

I understood you go up from the bottom triangle stone to the Pentagon--but I failed to understand the next line or the dig spot.

Than you for your help, Barton

 

[Quinoa]

If you were you to look thru the eye it would look something like this ( I blackened out what would be the shape of the hoyo over the photo).
View attachment 1427245The given spot is on the left tip, the triangle would be seen in the center of the hoyo. Again I couldn't catch this exact position with my camera it kept going out of focus and I eventually gave up on it.

Mdog, some of these hoyo monuments are showing spots that are a mile or more away. Not all will be 15 degree bearings, but most will , or at least the main spot it was set to point out. Many will have a couple extra places they show. Sometimes the hoyo monuments are marked by a turtle head looking out over the canyon, but there are many variations I have seen.

 

[mdog]

If you were you to look thru the eye it would look something like this ( I blackened out what would be the shape of the hoyo over the photo).
View attachment 1427245The given spot is on the left tip, the triangle would be seen in the center of the hoyo. Again I couldn't catch this exact position with my camera it kept going out of focus and I eventually gave up on it.

Mdog, some of these hoyo monuments are showing spots that are a mile or more away. Not all will be 15 degree bearings, but most will , or at least the main spot it was set to point out. Many will have a couple extra places they show. Sometimes the hoyo monuments are marked by a turtle head looking out over the canyon, but there are many variations I have seen.

Do you think that the eye shaped holes are unique to a specific group or just a look here symbol?

 

[Quinoa]

Just a look here thing. But the bigger ones are likely older in general although more rare to find. Most are pretty small.

 

[nmth]

Not enough snow in your country, so must just be on a real steep slope. If it were old the branches would be bigger. All IMHO. Seen only a few I think are suspicious, none were as high as that one looks. I don't see the skull part but I'm on tiny phone screen. Seems too big to have grown so I'll bet on rockfall and lucky physics.

 

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[Chadeaux]

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[In Deep]

I have not seen a cache site that did not have the alignments as of yet, just remember that sometimes they go a little ways from the crisscross spot within 50 feet (but not always, the entrance can be right on the crisscross spot) this is why the crisscross spot is usually marked well so they can find that important single bare spot, even if it is to go from.

Sandy1
Can you tell use how you tell if you dig at the crisscross spot or a little ways away?
If you dig a little ways away how do you know how far and which way do you go?

 

[Barton]

How do you read this marker?

Can any one tell me how to read this marker?

There is a "A" frame and to the left of it there is a "3"
I have seen these stone three's before and does anyone know how they are used or read?

Barton

 

[Crosse De Sign]

Hi Barton,

I have seen at a potential site, the #3, at least twice. Once in relief, on the side of a long turtle, with other things on & around it.
:
..View attachment 1447263

I think some may have said they thought the 3 was referring to "The Holy Trinity", which may be reference to a holy treasure?, is my guess. However, I'm sure that the alignments are the main important thing to find, and where they're crossing in an open area. I reckon it could also be indicating distance, kind of a double meaning.
:
..View attachment 1447267

Is that anything like what you have found?

The other 3 is a shadow, but appears to be part of a 13, in coordination with other
rocks at a certain time of day/year. Interesting carvings you have there.
Take care, good luck, & be safe!

~:Crosse:~

 

[weregolf]

Barton, maybe 3 mean multiply a distance
Review the tree/s where triangles point

 

[sandy1]

Sandy1
Can you tell use how you tell if you dig at the crisscross spot or a little ways away?
If you dig a little ways away how do you know how far and which way do you go?

ID,
If the Entrance is not at the Crisscross spot this is what they did: Once finding the crisscross spot they either used knowledge that was passed on to them verbally or a map from the crisscross spot, the reason I said within 50 feet is due to the auras/treasures which are very close to the crisscross spots in most every case.
We have two options today 1: use equipment from the crisscross spot outwards or 2: if bedrock is shallow dig outwards from the crisscross spot until you find the entrance.

 

[Barton]

Weregolf,

Thank you for examining this photo--and for your insight. I will check this spot with a metal detector
later this month and let you know what I find.

 

[In Deep]

Thank you Sandy1 for the reply
I am down about 8 ft and have not come across bedrock yet guess I need to go deeper Guess i have the right handle In Deep

 

[AIORIA]

In Deep, the deepest I ever dug was 4 ft deep and 6 feet around. The ground was hard and after digging 4 ft I decided to use my nokta golden king (over hyped detector) and since this machine was supposed to get down to 15 meters I stopped digging when I got no hit at the spot.

I did air tests on it and realized it goes no deeper than 6 feet for large vehicle size objects. I sold it a while back. All this was before the new vault info we got from our brother Sandy1.

I commend you for digging an 8 foot hole and still going. Be careful my friend and stay safe. I hope you keep us posted on if you find the entrance.

It's good to see you posting back on the thread Sandy.

 

[Barton]

A second look

Aioria, Post # 686

Maybe you should reevaluate your original site--if it has the alignments intersecting and looks good;
give your original site a new try.

Please be careful and keep your hole wide enough a cave in will not bury you. while everyone wants to recover
a cache --it is important to be very careful when digging to prevent accidents.

 

[Barton]

I used to have a GPR ( Grail Finder ) made in Germany.
In theory it is supposed to go down appx. 30 feet.

Many people have said that GPR's do not work.
Having spent hundreds of hours operating the GPR
I will say this--Some times it gives false images
For example if you have a soil that is mostly like sand silt ( fine particels )
and then at 10 feet you have a high density object like a rock boulder--
the machine would classify that object as metal ( the highest density )

On the other hand I have seen it accurately show tunnels ( blue color )
which is the lowest density ( air )

I have also seen it show buried metal--exactly as buried metal.
I have not used a Nokta GOld King--but a report on its performance might save others
from wasting money on a product that is not effective for cache hunting.

When I was up North I used a German made Pulse Star--and I thought it had excellent performance.
While it certainly will not pick up every Spanish cache --it also will in my opinion clearly detect
some of the less deep Spanish caches with the large cable or the 1 meter square search coil.