A GUIDE TO VAULT TREASURE HUNTING (Condensed)

[AIORIA]

Use a Standard detector just put it in the mineral setting and wait for the decrease in the tone, when the mineral is disturbed it will never come back

Dsty, sounds interesting. I've heard this before but never bothered to ask more about it. I will take advantage and ask you now since you brought it up....

Can you please tell us what types of detectors have this "mineral setting" you speak of and can you clarify what you said about the tone for those of us that didn't quite understand?

Also, how successful have you been using this method? Have you found disturbed soil and dug down to find goodies? Have there been times you found nothing after digging in the disturbed soil?

Thanks in advance for your info.

 

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[dsty]

All detectors that I know of has a Metal / Mineral mineral selection switch, a good place to use it for practice purpose is a place that you know where there are places that have been dug and filled in. Generally a hole that has been filled in will be from a foot across (farmers post hole bank usually where a farmer feeds cattle) to a 7 ft across and 7 ft deep Spanish Settlers Allotment generally speaking 112 each 445 gram bars. Old Hand Dug Holes and what took me there.

 

[Barton]

RockHopper Post 619

Can you clarify some items?
Did all four alignment lines have a "A" frame ? was it on the end of the alignment line--furthest from the intersecting point?
Approximately how far apart were the two stones--alignment stones on each line?
Were any of the alignment stones on opposite sides of the cache site? or were they both located to ones site of the cache;
lining up the line pointing to the cache?
Was there a pentagon ( 5 sided stone ) or a shadow triangle located near any of your alignment lines or the cache location ?

Thank you for your help Barton

 

[Barton]

Tinhorn can you look at my questions I asked Rock hopper on his post # 619
and give me your insight or answers too.

Thank you---Barton

 

[Barton]

Aioria post # 633

The best metal detector to use that I know of is a Pulse Star with a very large coil
Most brands of metal detectors do not have the depth penetration.

Barton

 

[Barton]

RockHopper post 648

I do NOT know the answer--but I would speculate this might be possible
The Skull may mean a D. TRAP
If so then the attack will probably come from the side of the stone with the broken corner--close to the a frame.
Also check if there can be another possible alignment--and the skull says you have the wrong one--just a thought.

Barton

 

[AIORIA]

Thanks Barton. I have no experience with this detector but by research and reading the reviews from others I too have come to the conclusion that this may be one of the best detectors for depth penetration.

 

[Barton]

Hello Prospectors,

Has anyone here found their "A" frame rocks with a:
1. A shadow triangle near it
2. a Pentagon rock near it
3. the "A" frame rock is part of a triangle--with two pyramid rocks on the South side of the "A" frame--
and the arrangement of the equalateral triangle formed with the "A" frame sends one to the north.
( the small pyramid rocks seem to send one toward the "A" frame--then keep on going --on a line )
4. The trees--if they are shaped like animals--fox, dog, wolf, ect, ect some times they will point
to the key alignment stone--you are supposed to use---if your using trees--then here is an idea
APPROCH YOUR CACHE AREA--FORM THE FOUR COMPASS POINTS--N, S, E,W AND THEN YOU
MAY FIND THAT ALL FOUR DIRECTIONS GIVE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THE CACHE OR THE KEY
ALIGNMENT STONES--THE TREE--SOMETIMES--WILL POINT TO THE ROCK THAT IS IMPORTANT!
Barton

 

[Barton]

Alorla, Post # 655

There is a person here--whom has shown me how he uses a Pulse Star--
I have seen the prices lower if purchased from the manufacture--in Germany
Also you may want to consider the Cable I think it is like 26 feet or something--
so you can fold it double like for 13 feet or 4 times for 6.5 feet---you get the idea.

My Prospecting friend Dan used a Pulse Star and he dug up a cache at about 20--22 feet deep
yet no one should expect to go out and get that depth--he was exceptionally skilled--
That kind of skill level comes from using a pulse star 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, for 10 months a year. I would think a reasonable expectation would be about 6--8 feet deep

Most American made detectors simply do not give you the depth you need--to detect Spanish Caches.


Do not skimp on quality tools--if it is a winch for your truck--or a metal detector--get good quality tools--it can be the difference between success and failure. I knew a man who purchased four retread
tires to save money--I can tell you that you can not put the treads back on using shoe goop--it does not work.

Once I went to a tool sale advertised hammer drills for $ 6 and the hammer drill bits for $ 4.
After looking at their quality-- I went out and spent more than ten times more for the hammer drill
and the high quality rated hammer drill bits.

Getting a $ 25 dollar hand metal detector is about as effective as pissing into a strong 20-30 mph wind!
Yet I have had prospectors tell me that is the metal detector they planned to buy to look for treasure.


Barton

 

[nmth]

Many times, my expensive detector has had me digging pinhead nuggets hand over fist while my buddies with the junkers just wander around digging up the occasional big stuff. Better is not always better.

 

[Barton]

Alignment Lines:

Has any one else noticed this concerning alignment lines
1. White stones go with white stones
2. Shadow stones go with shadow stones
3. Gray stones go with gray stones
4. White tablets--the length or long way--runs on alignment lines
5. Equilateral Triangles--can form going over the dig spot--a equilateral triangle has a 60 degree angle on all three sides

Please give me some feed back on these 5 concepts

Barton

 

[Barton]

RockHopper post 648

I do NOT know the answer--but I would speculate this might be possible
The Skull may mean a D. TRAP
If so then the attack will probably come from the side of the stone with the broken corner--close to the a frame.
Also check if there can be another possible alignment--and the skull says you have the wrong one--just a thought.

It just dawned on me why the skull is beside the "A" frame----it is telling you have the wrong location--do NOT dig there.

Barton

 

[Quinoa]

A skull just means "something buried" rather than death. Unless it is coupled with a lightening bolt, then it means it is trapped as well. It's just a simple way to symbolize the underworld. Think of it the same way of seeing a roadside sign with a fork and spoon, symbolizing "place to eat" rather than a place that sells silverware. It's just an association symbol.

 

[Barton]

Post # 661

I stand corrected then. I bow to Quinoa's answer as he has far more experience than I do.

Barton

 

[Barton]

Quinoa,

Since your here--would you be kind enough to give us your thoughts on these ideas?
I realize your much more experienced than I am --so everyone here could can benefit from your insight.

Has anyone here found their "A" frame rocks with a:
1. A shadow triangle near it
2. a Pentagon rock near it
3. the "A" frame rock is part of a triangle--with two pyramid rocks on the South side of the "A" frame--
and the arrangement of the equalateral triangle formed with the "A" frame sends one to the north.
( the small pyramid rocks seem to send one toward the "A" frame--then keep on going --on a line )
4. The trees--if they are shaped like animals--fox, dog, wolf, ect, ect some times they will point
to the key alignment stone--you are supposed to use---if your using trees--then here is an idea
APPROCH YOUR CACHE AREA--FORM THE FOUR COMPASS POINTS--N, S, E,W AND THEN YOU
MAY FIND THAT ALL FOUR DIRECTIONS GIVE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THE CACHE OR THE KEY
ALIGNMENT STONES--THE TREE--SOMETIMES--WILL POINT TO THE ROCK THAT IS IMPORTANT!


Alignment Lines:

Has any one else noticed this concerning alignment lines

1. White stones go with white stones
2. Shadow stones go with shadow stones
3. Gray stones go with gray stones
4. White tablets--the length or long way--runs on alignment lines
5. Equilateral Triangles--can form going over the dig spot--a equilateral triangle has a 60 degree angle on all three sides

Please give me some feed back on these 5 concepts

Barton

 

[Quinoa]

They all are mostly associations.
1. The A frame is part of a set up where they used triangulation from other markers in conjunction with the A frame, or they are pointing out that it is a marker that goes to the cache spot. The triangle was used so much , that it can really just represent a cache layout is there, but there will most often be some triangular shaped set up made with markers set up over it or nearby that aligns to the cache spot.

2. The pentagon is saying the A frame has an alignment that goes to the cache, same with a diamond shadow near a marker, it's just telling you something about the importance of a nearby marker.

3. Kind of goes with what I just stated in 1 and 2.

4. I haven't really seen trees in animal shape, but the trees can be in a Y or have a U shape on them just to draw your attention that the tree is in the area of something important like other markers. They can have manipulated branches that point a general direction to look as well. The tree goes way back as in the "tree of life" so some can just be lone trees that have a spiritual type connection. Most will be modified with a Y or U shape formed and other trees or markers can align or be used in connection with them.

 

[sdcfia]

A skull just means "something buried" rather than death. Unless it is coupled with a lightening bolt, then it means it is trapped as well. It's just a simple way to symbolize the underworld. Think of it the same way of seeing a roadside sign with a fork and spoon, symbolizing "place to eat" rather than a place that sells silverware. It's just an association symbol.

Skull rock wedged tightly in tree limbs.

 

[Quinoa]

Never seen a boulder in a tree like that. It does resemble a skull. If it's a true marker it's probably marking the tree for something to line up with another, or maybe even looking down at the spot. My avatar is a skull low to the ground... and it looks toward a spot.

Some things look, some things watch over from the side. Some things look at (point out) something you are supposed to see or look thru, some things are things you look thru.

Here is the eye of Horus, an Egyptian theme. You put your head behind it at ground level and look thru it. It shows 3 white markers on a hillside in a triangle.View attachment 1426850View attachment 1426851
Look closely, not a perfect rendition but you get the idea. The pyramid or wedge shape below the eye is even there. It looks at some white markers, I couldn't get them all on the camera while shooting thru the eye.
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The boulder set up the eye is part of looks like half a face laying on the ground in the field from the front side when you see the whole thing in the field (not shown). When walking over to it from above it looks like a large squarish or diamond shaped boulder, but not really perfect dimensions.

edit: it's very difficult to show what is seen thru these "hoyos" with a camera, lining it up like you see it with your naked eye is very difficult. Anyways, the 3 markers stick out like a sore thumb when you look thru it with your naked eye, it is not easy to show it with a couple pictures, you can;t really align perfectly with a camera thru a small hole in the rocks and still keep things in focus.. the single marker seen thru the hole picture is the bottom marker of where I showed all 3.
Also note on the left side of the triangle of markers , if you look close is a pentagonal shaped rock in the grass... and the hoyo is pointing or indicating to left when you look thru it, so left side of triangle somewhere where things align is probably a pretty good start.

 

[mdog]

Never seen a boulder in a tree like that. It does resemble a skull. If it's a true marker it's probably marking the tree for something to line up with another, or maybe even looking down at the spot. My avatar is a skull low to the ground... and it looks toward a spot.

Some things look, some things watch over from the side. Some things look at (point out) something you are supposed to see or look thru, some things are things you look thru.

Here is the eye of Horus, an Egyptian theme. You put your head behind it at ground level and look thru it. It shows 3 white markers on a hillside in a triangle.View attachment 1426850View attachment 1426851
Look closely, not a perfect rendition but you get the idea. The pyramid or wedge shape below the eye is even there. It looks at some white markers, I couldn't get them all on the camera while shooting thru the eye.
View attachment 1426852 View attachment 1426853

The boulder set up the eye is part of looks like half a face laying on the ground in the field from the front side when you see the whole thing in the field (not shown). When walking over to it from above it looks like a large squarish or diamond shaped boulder, but not really perfect dimensions.

edit: it's very difficult to show what is seen thru these "hoyos" with a camera, lining it up like you see it with your naked eye is very difficult. Anyways, the 3 markers stick out like a sore thumb when you look thru it with your naked eye, it is not easy to show it with a couple pictures, you can;t really align perfectly with a camera thru a small hole in the rocks and still keep things in focus.. the single marker seen thru the hole picture is the bottom marker of where I showed all 3.
Also note on the left side of the triangle of markers , if you look close is a pentagonal shaped rock in the grass... and the hoyo is pointing or indicating to left when you look thru it, so left side of triangle somewhere where things align is probably a pretty good start.

This is a good post. Do you know anything about the history of this area? For example, are there anymore Egyptian style monuments? When was the earliest white occupation? Was there any mining done in the area? Any white settlements close by during the late 1800's or early 1900's? If you look through the eye, toward the triangle, what direction are you looking? Have you run across many eye shaped holes?

Also, did you measure the distances between the white rocks that form the triangle? I'm curious about that because of the placement of the pentagram rock. It's been my experience that the equilateral triangles have two sides that measure almost exact and one side, noticeably, different, that would be the base of the triangle. I've found that there is always something of importance close to the left angle of the base. Is this the case with the triangle you show?

 

[Quinoa]

Mdog, I've seen so many of these type monuments that I didn't bother much with it except to take a few pictures of it. I was working a couple nearby sites at the time of which there are at least a half dozen in that canyon. If I were to work it sometime I would draw a line from the bottom corner thru the pentagon rock , and a second line from one top corner thru the other top corner going to the left and find the point where the 2 lines cross.

When you look thru the eye, and center the triangle in it where they meant for it to be, the left pointy part of the eye when looking thru it will be on that crossing point of the lines I just mentioned (which would be a place just a bit out of the picture).