2008 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

[boylara]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

nail6 is the center nail, nail7 is found and the southern side, nail5 at the northern side. nail5 is the tallest while nail7 is the shortest. all the top of the nails is pointing at the east side. you can see the formation at nail4..any one who can interpret it or who is willing to detect the area, just pm me..or email me..you can visit my other photos here:http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/boylara2002

 

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[Edong]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Edchato,

Have you had a transaction before? some said that he is CIA front is that true? i mean is he worth dealing with? cause we have a site that we suspected to have gold?

Earl

to Earl, i understand you are looking for some help, that you can sell , if you find some item, now what i am trying to tell you is this is your best choice compare to the other's, and Sobex is right , you can't trust the gov. they break all the law they made , you know what i mean?,and if you have the item try to sell it one piece at a time, in three different company , gov., other foriegn buyer, u.s. buyer that will give you three option be careful,and good luck Ed

 

[earl_phils]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Edchato,

Sir what i want right now is somebody or someone who can help us out in digging the treasure if any? we dont wana do the work or finance the project. We want a partnership in order to excavate this one. We dont have enough resources to finance this project. Figure8 says that they will help excavate whatever lies beneath? sir i want your infos on this. thanks

EArl

 

[Zobex]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Earl, I don't mean to run my mouth on this site and it is a very good site. Thanks to who ever the people who run it.

But, any large or self promoting organization that offers to dig up your site for free as "joint venture" is going to be working with the Philippine Government in some form. That will include the National Police and the biggest group of gangsters the Presidential Security Group PSG. So they will say the first 75% belongs to the Central Bank. Then there are "expenses" so officially they will allow 15% to 20% to be kept. Next they will tell you that any "cultural artifacts" are nationalized. Next they will say that any remaining coins or gold bars must be sent to the Central Bank for "processing" and that after 90 days the Central Bank will release the funds to the person they wish to recognize as the legitimate recognized treasure finder. From those legitimate funds you will divide with everyone including "figure8". Only if this group wants to talk to you. Odds are they will have forgot your name the minute they find anything. Or worse you will be walking home from a Sari Sari store and get run over by a fast truck. That last thing happened to two people I know, got run over by a truck. Hit and run, never found the driver.

If you can not find a group of friends to form a co-operative project and do it as a group effort, you might as well forget the big sites. Look for some small thing you can dig up with 3-4 people by yourselves. Mike Arroyo is fat enough as it is (strictly referring to his treasure derived wealth, gag)

 

[boylara]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Earl..never TRUST ay government official, especially those people in the Malacanang, better use the people in the barangay, educate them and tell them to guard the area. The best people to help you in your project site are the people of the area itself, just condition their mind....before you begin your project, help them first and you willgain their trust..NOT to any Government official..all of them are CORRUPT and GREEDY!!!

 

[earl_phils]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

ok boy yeah ive heard that also re govt dealings with the treasures and in the end no share shall be given to the th. thanks boy

 

[Buboy911_888]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

HI GUYS,

KINDLY GIVE ME SOME INSIGHTS ON THIS.....

MY OLD FOLKS HAVE DIG IN SOME US CURRENCY OF $100,000 GOLD CERTIFICATE OF 1934 WITH THE PICTURE OF WOODROW WILSON. THE BACK OF IT IS COLOR RED ORANGE. I BELIEVE IT IS ONE OF JAPANESE LOOTED TREASURE FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES...NOW THEY HAVE THE DIFFICULTY OF EXCHANGINBG IT FOR SOME SAYS THAT IT IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE ONE OR IT HAS NO VALUE....

SO IF ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OR KNOW A BANK THAT WILL GIVE ITS VALUE PLEASE SHARE IT...I WILL HIGHLY APPRECIATE IT THANKS....

BUBOY

 

[WaynePhillips]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Hi BUBOY,

Unfortunately, you will not be able to redeem any such gold certificates, currency, or Federal Reserve Notes unless the issuing Government that printed them allows you to do so. The US Government printed flaws in these so they can deny authenticity if they do not want to redeem them. We had boxes of these analyzed by a forensic company that authenticated 1936 paper and ink, in other words, there was absolutely no question that they were authentic, and we had to back out of a transaction with them. You can read the extensive research that Sterling Seagrave has published on this topic in Gold Warriors and the accompanying CD-ROM's found at: www.bowstring.net or Amazon.com, etc.

Wayne

 

[Zobex]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

HI GUYS,

KINDLY GIVE ME SOME INSIGHTS ON THIS.....

MY OLD FOLKS HAVE DIG IN SOME US CURRENCY OF $100,000 GOLD CERTIFICATE OF 1934 WITH THE PICTURE OF WOODROW WILSON. THE BACK OF IT IS COLOR RED ORANGE. I BELIEVE IT IS ONE OF JAPANESE LOOTED TREASURE FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES...NOW THEY HAVE THE DIFFICULTY OF EXCHANGINBG IT FOR SOME SAYS THAT IT IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE ONE OR IT HAS NO VALUE....

SO IF ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OR KNOW A BANK THAT WILL GIVE ITS VALUE PLEASE SHARE IT...I WILL HIGHLY APPRECIATE IT THANKS....

BUBOY

The $100,000 Gold Certificate was never released into general circulation and was only used in fiscal channels. This note cannot be legally held by currency note collectors, and all issued serial numbers have been recalled and accounted for.

In other words…there are no missing $100,000 gold certificates

Actually they were used for Inter Bank Transfers, Bank-to-Bank loans and foreign exchange debt balance. Wells Fargo held and transported such instruments in Asia and so did corresponding banks in Asia (as well as other regions). In this case, when the Japs looted a country which means all the banks etc., any such instruments were prone to being captured and some actually did. Also there were counterfeits made at the same time and passed around in various countries. Hard to tell if real in those days. Further the Federal Reserve Corporation, private corporation held by German Nationals, were known to make up duplicates and floaters. No, the Fed Res is not honest.

In the 20's and 30's banks kept record of not only large bills but even down to a $20. when cash box's were intertransferred, the ledgers inside kept record of the individual serial numbers of the bills, $1 were not recored but just a balanced made. Also in those days if you went to a bank and made either a deposit or withdrawl, anything at $20 or bigger was recorded to name and the serial number. (in 1949 my Dad had 3 $100 bills stolen in a stickup so he went to Bank of America, they gave him the serial numbers that had been given to him and he inturn gave that to the local police. Starting in the late 1940's my Uncle was chief of security for the Crocker-Anglo-Citizens bank merger group. When I was 12 I got to walk inside all the cool bank vaults, cash and bullion deposits and drool.) The ledgers inside a Wells Fargo safe include the cash balance, number of bills, denomination, serial numbers plus all the authenticating signatures and transfer instructions.

So with the war and various other stunts of WW2 both sides were involved in counterfeiting. I started collecting counterfeit paper money since there is so much of it floating in the Philippines. Interesting to study.

It is possible to find currency, I will post later a pic. of a Wells Fargo safe we cut open in Zamboanga in 2002. It was filled mostly with small bills and nothing bigger than a $100. There was surprisingly a lot of $1 bills in it. Really wore out and dirty money so it must have seen a lot of business before being locked up. There is a lot of counterfeit money floating in the islands, it comes from outside brought in to scam foreigners and is also made in the islands, most likely in Marawi where the Muslims make it to scam and support their revolt. It's so common it's jokingly referred to as " Marawi Money ".

Ownership of the real $100,000 bill is fuzzy. One casino in Las Vegas (where else) has had a collection on display that includes authentic $100,000 bills, at least it was a few years back say 5 years. The FBI and Treasury have not moved to take them away.

Zobex

 

[Zobex]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Because the issue of "1934" money is an ongoing daily event in the Philippines, is in total related to Japanese War Treasure and because this subject will contine to come up, following is a lengthy reply. If the moderator wishes to delete this that is OK as well, it is their site. If nothing else at least follow the two links below.

The $100,000 gold certificate was part of a series of gold
certificates used by the banks in exchange for the gold the banks
turned over to the treasury. The printing on the bill includes the phrase,

"This is to certify that there is on deposit in the Treasury of the
United States of America One Hundred Thousand Dollars in Gold
payable to bearer on demand as authorized by law."

Check the following links on United States Representative (House of Representatives
US Congress) Louis T. McFadden's. After these two speeches and his report to Congress.

On May 23, 1933, Congressman, Louis T. McFadden, brought formal charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, The Comptroller of the Currency and the Secretary of United States Treasury for numerous criminal acts, including but not limited to, CONSPIRACY, FRAUD, UNLAWFUL CONVERSION, AND TREASON. The petition for Articles of Impeachments thereafter referred to the Judiciary Committee in 1933, subsequently it was placed under "lock and key" and not moved on, it is still there in 2006.

http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/mcfadden_speech_1932.htm

http://resist.com/cbg/mcfadden.html#13

http://iresist.com/cbg/mcfaddengif.html
First page of Congressional Record for Speach.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/generalinfo/fract/sect16.htm

Following his filing of charges there were THREE assassination attempts on his life while in office. 1) At a Capital dinner via poison 2) By snipers bullet on the Capitol steps 3)By poison, that time successful, he was killed.

People have no concept how the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank is structured. It is a commercial bank that makes investments, conversions, holdings gobally. The Fed Res has since 1915 purchased commodity contracts, joint ventures, co-signs, under writes etc gobally. Russia, China etc. They leveraged their existing gold deposits 100 to 1. That is $100 leverage for every $1 of gold in reserve. Foreign banks were under written using paper currency US Dollars printed by the federal reserve, shipped in safes to foreign nations and taken in exchange contracts for business. e.g. hold warehouse receipts for Egyptian cotten in warehouse Palestine. In 1934 the Federal Reserve was shipping out of the USA 900-1,000 metric tons of gold a month in exchange for previously issued paper currency. Redemption's to foreign governments were not regulated, only private citizens. In exchange the Federal Reserve was holding paper contracts that were issued against not existant goods in Europe that the European governments were return shipping the Gold Certificates back to the Federal Reserve to then be redeemed in Gold billion which was then being shipped out of the US to foreign banks that were acting as the fiduciary bank to the foreign governments. That paper that was being shuttled back and forth was Gold certificates and that is where the true use of the $100,000 was for. No need to ship vaults full of $1 bills. The Japanese government was the biggest single export recipient of gold from the Federal Reserve Bank. Repeat, the gold was shipped from the Federal Reserve to Japan.

In 1934 all gold holdings of the USG were shipped from USG vaults to the Federal Reserve Bank for which the Fed Res issued paper Gold Certificate currency back to the USG. Remember the Federal Reserve Bank is a privately owned corporation with a mix of American and Foreign nationals on the board of directors. After the gold was shipped from the USG to the Fed Res banks and received in return Gold Certificate currency, the gold that was underwritting that currency was shipped out of the USA to foreign governments. THEN the Fed Res replaced that outstanding Gold Certificate money with Federal Reserve Notes that had no backing but good faith and the American Tax payers.

Do you follow this slight of hand here?

Zobex

 

[Zobex]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Because the issue of "1934" money is an ongoing daily event in the Philippines, is in total related to Japanese War Treasure and because this subject will contine to come up, following is a lengthy reply. If the moderator wishes to delete this that is OK as well, it is their site. If nothing else at least follow the two links below.

The links provide no information about the topic at-hand ($100,000 Gold Certificates), and has no relevancy to Japanese War Treasure. The only reason for my responce to the original post about the gold certificate, was to educate the poster's inquiry.

The simple fact is that all of the gold certificates printed in the short three week span have been accounted for when the program was terminated in the 60's. No missing certificates, no war treasure. Should be easy enough to understand, eh?

I think Buboy's question has been answered, and see no need to continue the banter about non-existant $100,000 gold certificates buried in the Philippines.

Actually Buboy's question was about the procedure if any for redemption or finder's fees applicable to any found gold bullion certificates found in the country he is in, Philippines and how if possible to authenticate or follow any such recovery.

The answer is in essence;

You must authenticate or have authenticate what you have. In this case is it real or not. Since the Federal Reserve is known to have carried multiple books and the books show different quantities of bills produced, no not all bills have been recovered. $100,000 bills were used outside the territory of USA

There is an official program in the Philippines for the recovery of gold and silver certificates, since 2001 it has been handled through the Department of Homeland Security, before via Treasury. With the restructuring, loose currency is considered a national security issue. The agent you wish to speak with at the USG Embassy, Manila, is Agent Loan (McIntosh) Rupp, Department of Homeland Security. She used to live in the same town as me, then moved to Los Angeles and now in Manila. You may reach her at 0 917 899 8715, thats her phone number at the Embassy (for security reasons they rotate in circles their phone numbers, turning them on and off and on in irregular basis.) Or you may speak to FBI Special Agent Albie Price, Office of Legal Attache also at the Embassy or the FBI Lead Supervisory Special Agent Jim Nixon, Office of Legal Attache, also at the Manila Embassy. If you are an American (passport) go to the side entrance that direct behind the electric street traffic light and across the street from the coffee shop, identify yourself as American (passport and other forms of identification, state your business) and they will escort you in. If not American, you will have to apply for an appointment by going to the main gate entrance to the Embassy, 1131 Roxas Blvd., Ermita, Manila.


Zobex

 

[angel_09]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Hi Earl _Phil,

What you have is a land mark. Those coconut trees are intentionally planted to serve as land mark. It indicates an object which is very easy to recover, provided you found the starting point for digging. Try to use metal detector for finding the metal link to the object.


Angel_09

 

[Zobex]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Hi BUBOY,

Unfortunately, you will not be able to redeem any such gold certificates, currency, or Federal Reserve Notes unless the issuing Government that printed them allows you to do so. The US Government printed flaws in these so they can deny authenticity if they do not want to redeem them. We had boxes of these analyzed by a forensic company that authenticated 1936 paper and ink, in other words, there was absolutely no question that they were authentic, and we had to back out of a transaction with them. You can read the extensive research that Sterling Seagrave has published on this topic in Gold Warriors and the accompanying CD-ROM's found at: www.bowstring.net or Amazon.com, etc.

Wayne

Wayne, we did the same thing. What we pulled out of a Wells Fargo safe that we pulled out of a limestome cave that the japs had buried. So what ever was in that safe was made before the japs buried it and left in the last of 1944. Why would the japs go to all the effort to counterfeit something, put it into the safe, bury it in a cave along with a Buddha and a lot of other stuff and then blast their own men and trucks sealed into the cave. The answer is they would not. But the answer lies in the Federal Reserve Bank running a scam on Asia and in the 1930's they could do it due to a lack of communications etc. between the Asian world and the North Americas.

Zobex

 

[tagasilay]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

Hi to all,

The Federal reserve certificate redemption SCAM is ongoing until the present day. The syndicate ussually entices the would be victim of big return of investment if the victim finances the "legal team" that would allegedly represent the bearer in order to encash the certificate. The SCAM gets the victim involved with the financing of the authentication, verification and representation with the US treasury. It ussually runs for at least 3 months to years of investing on the "venture". Just like the good old treasure site financing scam. So dont put your money in such a scheme, its a bottomless money pit.

God Bless,

Jose

 

[Buboy911_888]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

SWR, ZOBEX & ALL TH"S

THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS GOLD CERTIFICATE THING......... GOOD OR BAD ATLEAST NOW I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT THE 70 YEARS OLD CURRENCY.....


http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq/currency/sales.shtml#q7

IN THIS SITE IT SAYS THAT IT IS INDEED REDEEMABLE ON ITS FACE VALUE....

BUBOY

 

[bomber]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

do we have to learn a new language to feep reading this post?

 

[jeff of pa]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

do we have to learn a new language to feep reading this post?

No Bomber. as I warned above.

If I see a post in a Language I or the Majority of members can't Translate it Gets Deleted without any fruther Warning.

 

[buscadero]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

There were 42K 1934 $100K Gold Certificates Printed! ALL are accounted for! Only 3 Survive! 1 @ Fed. Res. Bank in S.F.

1@ Bureau of Eng. & Printing

1 @ the Smithsonion
They are not Legal Tender, therefore Illegal to own!!

Counterfeits are coming out of Asia!

Joe

 

[WaynePhillips]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

SWR ~

I was referring to FRN's, not $100,000.00 Gold Certificates.

Wayne

 

[angel_09]

2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE

This scam became self sustaining because of the "greed" that serves as the "fuel" to make this scam continue to "burn". The promoters are capitalizing the "needs" of the sellers, buyers and middlemen thus making it an active "business" victimizing not only locals but overseas patron as well.
It is comendable that this forum was created, at least, everybody are getting aware on "what's goin' on" about what; from fake gold to this certificate scam.

Angel_09