Zobex
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2005 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( JAPS) TREASURE
OK, only that this is how Jap War treasures lead into. There was treasure on the plane, a couple of Garand rifles, .45 pistols. Also it was a payroll plane but all we found were a few box's of US Victory Notes which now are worthless plus they were moldy so no collector value and some war script. I think when the USG got the ser. no of the aircraft there must have been some records that it was carrying cash and so that is why the guy from Mortuary Affairs wanted to know if there was any gold on board.
It was Larry Killdow from the USAF civilian agent that was in charge of USAF property disposal that refused to release any salvage rights of the aircraft. For treasure hunters information, I filed salvage rights for it using the same 40 year rule that international courts applied to stolen gold etc. I claimed it was war treasure in as much it contained currency and valuables, was destroyed in an act of war and there for the entire aircraft and it's contents were war treasure salvage. Funny the USG never claimed it was a tomb or grave site of combat personnel. While the USAF admitted that foreign courts may recognize it to be in fact war treasure, but US courts would stick to the line he was giving. Hmmm. Again, this is what you face in treasure hunting.
My Mom once asked me what I would rather be doing with my life besides chasing this stuff. I answered, I could not imagine what Else. Nothing has the challenge.
Zobex
jeff of pa said:Zobex said:Well this post is not exactly Jap war Treasure but may also be. You always have someone come up to you saying they or their friend or what not has found a site or something. Here is another;
In 1998 a friend brought a friend to see me and retell a story that the friend of the friend had been given by his Father. The story went that his father was an orchid collector and and one day while climbing trees looking for orchids in the tall tree area he was surprised to find a big airplane stuck in the top of the trees. It was all tangled up in branches in crown of the big trees. When he tried to get inside he could not for the nose glass was to hard to break with his hands and the tools he had with him. The father was now dead and the son knew only the general area of the big trees.
Well I like stories like this so we went to the area of big trees. The problem was this was also an area of poisonous snakes and this was mosquito and snake season. After near three days I had enough of sleeping in ropes smeared with oil and grease to keep snakes away and the mosquito clothing was so hot. But like a movie, one of the tribals climbing trees found it. A B-24. It had skimmed into the tree tops and come to rest in a tangle of branches. Now 50 years later it was all intergrown into the tree tops but not in that bad of shape. It looked to have been shot up but by this point in time it was already tore up. To shorten up the story, inside was the crew, they had apparently chosen to wait for help as it was some near 90-100 feet in the air.
I wanted to protect my options on salvaging the aircraft and still have the men recovered to identification. Now this is the USG. First, Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command (JPAC) in Hawaii said they were too busy with recovering Vietnam remains to spend time on WW2 remains and that it would be at least 2 or more years before they could consider the site. I explained there were bones. They responded, find the tags and mail them to us. (screw that). Next, the USAF stated that all aircraft, including salvage from WW2 no matter what country it is found in, is the property of the USG and that they would not let me salvage it, though it had been rotting in the jungle for 50 years.
To both of them I said, it will stay where it is. Let it all rest in peace. I did get one unsolicited phone call from a Col. in Mortuary Affairs. He had one question and he blurted it out fast. "Is there any gold bars inside" I answered " Now now - - -". He cussed and slammed the phone on me.
Zobex
Great Story Zobex.
Your Correct in that
"this post is not exactly Jap war Treasure"
you should re post it here:
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/board,67.0.html
Because I have a Hunch, This may Turn this thread off Subject.
OK, only that this is how Jap War treasures lead into. There was treasure on the plane, a couple of Garand rifles, .45 pistols. Also it was a payroll plane but all we found were a few box's of US Victory Notes which now are worthless plus they were moldy so no collector value and some war script. I think when the USG got the ser. no of the aircraft there must have been some records that it was carrying cash and so that is why the guy from Mortuary Affairs wanted to know if there was any gold on board.
It was Larry Killdow from the USAF civilian agent that was in charge of USAF property disposal that refused to release any salvage rights of the aircraft. For treasure hunters information, I filed salvage rights for it using the same 40 year rule that international courts applied to stolen gold etc. I claimed it was war treasure in as much it contained currency and valuables, was destroyed in an act of war and there for the entire aircraft and it's contents were war treasure salvage. Funny the USG never claimed it was a tomb or grave site of combat personnel. While the USAF admitted that foreign courts may recognize it to be in fact war treasure, but US courts would stick to the line he was giving. Hmmm. Again, this is what you face in treasure hunting.
My Mom once asked me what I would rather be doing with my life besides chasing this stuff. I answered, I could not imagine what Else. Nothing has the challenge.
Zobex
.....just imagine 6 of you...blindly running and shouting inside very dark tunnel...all of us got...bruises and bumps when we get out of the tunnel... 
