1754 bottle

[Stroover]

I found what gave me the impression of ballast in the shape of the bottom of a ship in about two feet of water today as I was strolling on a sand dune by the ocean. I snooped around the rocks, and found what looked like a green beer bottle. I thought to myself: "oh great, litter bugs again." then noticed it was slightly larger then your average beer bottle. I glanced on the bottom, and it said:"J.L & C.L.C 1754". About twenty feet away was a mostly submerged large wooden barrel, standing upright, with about 12 inches sticking out. I'm going to go back to the area this week to snoop around some more, this time with my metal detector and digging gear! I'd post a pic, but my wife is gone on vacation and took the digi-cam with her.

 

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[Paul in WA]

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[Stroover]

Think I figured it out. Ok, here it goes: The first one is the stuff dug-up after 3 hrs of digging around the barrel and around the ballast pile (which is the picture that looks like just a shot of the water, but look closer and you can see the rocks under it). The rest are obviously the barrel and the bottle. The board on the bottom of the first picture is of a barrel among the ballast pile. Look closely, and the little black thing laying on it is part of a human rib. I managed to coax the years of build up off of the hook, which when my md picked it up, it was completely encrusted.

 

[Michigan Badger]

Not 1700s period bottle

I can't see it very well but what would you guess SWR? It looks rather new to me...can't see the seam, etc.

 

[tinpan]

hi shoover thanks for the pics, the bottle show no sign of being in the sea conditions for a long time and the pieces of glass show no ware and the edges still sharp and the wood could be just drift wood dumped after a heavy tide.if you go back to the site again can we have a pic of some of the ballast rocks there will make easy to date the wreck

tinpan

 

[Stroover]

so, you're saying the bottle was made relatively recently, and the "1754" is just a random number or something? Think I'll bring it to an expert so they can take a look at it.

 

[Spitfire Reddie]

The bottle doesn't have a pontil scar on the bottom so its around 1900 or later

 

[tinpan]

hi shoover here a couple of pics of a green bottle that was recovered from a waterway this month.it looks black but when put up against the light it green and also it show condition ware and theres a clear pic of the bottom and i,m sure the bottle i found dates between  1880s-1920s

                        tinpan

                             

 

[tinpan]

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[tinpan]

thanks for i.ding the bottle ,swr and i stand corrected and i do know that bottles is your field of experitise.big thanks

tinpan

 

[Stroover]

Is this clearer? Can anybody i.d. it now?

 

[Stroover]

here's another one

 

[tinpan]

SORRY SHROOVER I TRIED TO HELP BUT HAVE NO IDEAS ON THIS BOTTLE AND GOOD LUCK WITH IT ALL

TINPAN

 

[mlw67]

I believe the 'crown top' closure such as on your bottle (made for a bottlecap) was invented in 1895.

Its still a cool bottle even if its newer than you thought.

 

[Spitfire Reddie]

Here ya go its JL & Co 1754 not J.L & C.L.C 1754

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Vintage-Antiq...ryZ13910QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[Stroover]

Here ya go its JL & Co 1754 not J.L & C.L.C 1754

http://cgi.ebay.com/3-Vintage-Antiq...ryZ13910QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks, Readdielocks. Still not sure what the writing means, but at least I know it's not expensive (since that fella is selling 3 of them for under $4). Oh well, guess we'll just pull the plug on this one. Sorry to get everybody's hopes up (including my own).

 

[Cubfan64]

Bah, nothing wrong with getting our hopes up as well as your own - that's one of the best things about this hobby "wondering what you're going to find next"!!!

Keep at it!

 

[Spitfire Reddie]

Don't worry one day you will find a REAL great one !