17 Tons of gold in New Mexico

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I have not been getting any of the responses. While I have asked to be notified.

Nick

 

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Yes. I do have a business that I run and have been very successful at. I actually do treasure hunt for a living and I do very well at it. I am very tied up with the mining end of my business as well. While I did click on the link to notify me it has not been doing that. In case any of you have not figured this out there are somethings that I can talk about and there are somethings that I can not. I am still under contract with Government concerning what was taken out in 1990. You have enough information to get it checked out on your own. For those of that thing that F Lee Bailey had a hand in getting it out you are slightly mistaken. He went to court to try and get it back for the rightful owners and in 1990 the rightful owners were not a live.

Nick

 

[Roadquest]

Gary,

You may have said this before.

But, do you have an idea of how much gold (in pounds) is at your target area?

Is it all gold bar's, or is there gold, and silver coins. And other things?

With the target area Ed and I are searching, We believe that most of it consist of 72 pound gold bars.

With the possibility of a few million in gold coins.

Roadquest

 

[Peerless67]

Gary,

You may have said this before.

But, do you have an idea of how much gold (in pounds) is at your target area?

Is it all gold bar's, or is there gold, and silver coins. And other things?

With the target area Ed and I are searching, We believe that most of it consist of 72 pound gold bars.

With the possibility of a few million in gold coins.

Roadquest

Im looking for $20 million worth of gold at 1952 prices, aprox 17.7 tons, although I know Hougen was helping himself in the late 50s, so I guess it may be a lil short

 

[Roadquest]

Nick,

Were you doing some of your transporting from North of Silver City,

In the Gila National Forest?

Clayton

 

[purchase]

All I can tell you is that we are shipping ore to Virgina City Montana. Right now I am in Reno wrapping up the pilot plant that we are going to be sending ore to. I am going to be in T or C after the 5th.

Nick

 

[Springfield]

Nick,

Were you were you doing some of your transporting from North of Silver City,

In the Gila National Forest?

Clayton

Hmmm. If you're referring to the site I think you are, no ore was removed from the shaft. Another fishing trip/scam. Your site, however, may be in a different location. Beware of 'investment opportunities', most particularly in the Caballo Mountains.

 

[Roadquest]

Thanks, for the tip on this Springfield. The area We are looking into is no where's

near there. Ya, about the investor thing. I thought about going that way, but decided

not to. I would rather call my own shots.

I get request wanting me to invest in "sure thing" project's two or three times a month.

If I respond, at all. I just tell them, What funds I have are tied up in my own project.

Many, years ago, before Mel found the big one. He sent me a request to invest in his project.

At the botton of the request page it said check the box, for the amount you wish to invest.

and there was $25 -$50 - $75 - $100

I didn't invest in Mel's project. I hope I learn something from that.

Clayton

 

[purchase]

First no ore has been moved from the treasure site. I am part owner in 6 other claims that we are moving ore from there in the Caballos. So if you think you know something that you may or may not know don't open mouth and insert foot.

Nick

 

[Springfield]

The site I referred to in post #359 above is not within 100 miles of the Caballo Mountains. It is directly north of Silver City, NM.

 

[Peerless67]

You are speaking of infrared photography. You think you can leave an amount of copper plate that it will fool the Government satellites---------it will not. I have heard of people using a thin coat of copper as a roof to keep the government from finding out about their gold and silver. Infrared will go through plate copper so easily-----it will not show up on infraread--------and the gold will be shown as GONE. Sorry but your plan of deception will not work.

I do not know about copper plate and satelites, but great works of art have been switched for copies many times.
It is my understanding that the dore bars are 60% gold 20% silver and 20% other non ferrous metals.
When you go to a "pick your own field", you do not take the maggot eaten fruit you take the best you can pick.
Using the same principle "theoretically" you could refine the dore bars and remove the gold, the remaining silver and other metals could be made into thinner bars that could be replaced on the footprint of the original cache.
Should the cache be dug in the future there would still be a cache of non ferrous metal, depeleted of its gold content, but still a cache of non ferrous metals (PGMs)

 

[Roadquest]

Ed,

I sent you an e-mail.............Clayton

 

[Roadquest]

Hmm infrared penetrates copper plate? From what I could find, copper tends to reflect at least some of the infrared radiation, but a thin plating of GOLD will reflect infrared very well indeed. (This is why gold is so essential for spacecraft and satellites, as excellent protection against Solar radiations) A possible idea would be to use thin sheets of copper, plated with gold. This would block infrared and ultraviolet very well, if that were what the object was. However I have to "ditto" the question of our fellow amigo Gollum (Mike) for what is the purpose of making it appear that the cache is still there, if you are taking the trouble to do this legally? That does not make a lot of sense, especially considering that the government would be getting a nice cut from the proceeds. Is there some non-governmental entity (or several) that are keeping watch over the cache, that would need to be fooled or risk.....? Please explain? Thank you in advance,
Oroblanco

If it absolutely has to be done right.
The thin plating of gold is the ONLY way to go.........Clayton

 

[Peerless67]

Clayton have you read this book from the 60s?

Emile C. Schurmacher , Lost Treasures and How to Find Them

 

[Roadquest]

Gary,

I checked my books, And I don't have that one.
Doe's it have material related to the 17 tons?

Clayton

 

[Peerless67]

Gary,

I checked my books, And I don't have that one.
Doe's it have material related to the 17 tons?

Clayton

As far as I am aware, It is the earliest telling of the story, with the exclusion of the newspaper/magazine reports. Of course there may be an earlier telling that I am not aware of.

 

[Roadquest]

The Argosy "magazine" was the first I read of it. I Think.

I ordered a copy of Lost Treasure's, and how to find them, from Amazon.

You may be right, it could be the first book on it.

Clayton

 

[gollum]

While the first book on the subject came out in the 1960s, here in Los Angeles and in New Mexico, the story was all over the papers in the early 1950s.

As a matter of fact, it heavily impacted Treasure Hunting. It sent tons of people back out searching for lost gold.

........and there is one person (you know who you are) who always scoffs at the idea that Uncle Sam goes after treasure. I have about 75 pages of Treasury Dept Investigation Reports, Office Memos, etc. that send shivers down my spine as to how seriously they were searching for this cache. Though all of them are fairly well redacted, they show that the Government NEVER intended to negotiate a thing with the owners. Uncle Sam's SOLE interest was taking FULL POSSESSION of all the gold.

Best-Mike

 

[Peerless67]

You are right about the papers Mike, I have over 30 just from 1952, and mostly from California.
I think that book was published in 1968 but im not 100%

 

[Roadquest]

The Argosy article was 1963 I believe.

Clayton