The 1826 Flood Of St Louis Destruction of the Unintelligible Writing Key

[Cryptography]

Now that we have a date of the flood of St Louis that destroyed the key named the unintelligible writing by the first few paragraphs of the Papers. We can separate all who say they have the said letter as fiction.

 

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[masterpoe]

Now that we have a date of the flood of St Louis that destroyed the key named the unintelligible writing by the first few paragraphs of the Papers. We can separate all who say they have the said letter as fiction.

"HIGH WATERS.-The Mississippi is, at this time, considerably higher than it has been for many years. The water, in many places, is over its banks, and the low lands. for miles back, entirely inundated. The inhabitants have been compelled to leave their homes. ."-Missouri Republican, St. Louis, May 11, 1826.

 

[ECS]

Now that we have a date of the flood of St Louis that destroyed the key named the unintelligible writing by the first few paragraphs of the Papers. We can separate all who say they have the said letter as fiction.

Is that a reference to Claudine Fulton Ellis's claim of discovering this alleged letter in a family Bible?
So far, this "flood destroyed letter" alternative fiction holds ever less water than that of Ellis's story.

 

[masterpoe]

Is that a reference to Claudine Fulton Ellis's claim of discovering this alleged letter in a family Bible?
So far, this "flood destroyed letter" alternative fiction holds ever less water than that of Ellis's story.

What is Ellis's story?

 

[franklin]

Now that we have a date of the flood of St Louis that destroyed the key named the unintelligible writing by the first few paragraphs of the Papers. We can separate all who say they have the said letter as fiction.

Just because there was a flood does not mean that the letter was destroyed in said flood. That is abstract thinking and has no provenance

 

[bigscoop]

Now that we have a date of the flood of St Louis that destroyed the key named the unintelligible writing by the first few paragraphs of the Papers. We can separate all who say they have the said letter as fiction.

....you can't really believe that anyone is going to take this wildly manufactured nonsense seriously? Why not just say that the holder of that alleged paper got run-over by a buffalo, struck by lightening, choked to death on a piece of jerky,....since these things existed as well? This is all getting all too funny now, just plain hysterical. Your alleged Beale letter speaks of "a key" and according to your honest narration the author already has "a working" key (that still don't work as he suggested), so how can he be so certain that there is another key, why not two other keys, three other keys, etc. How do you know "this missing paper" is even a key? All you keep doing is trashing your own sense of logic with all of this fabricated nonsense. Too funny and far-far too telling of your tunnel vision focus to create something from nothing despite all of the contrary facts in front of you.

 

[bigscoop]

Just because there was a flood does not mean that the letter was destroyed in said flood. That is abstract thinking and has no provenance

If this is their logic then anything goes, which has been all too obvious of them since the very beginning. "Lost in a flood"..........probably what happened to the entire unconfirmed party as well, "as a matter of their facts" I'm sure, all them swept away by raging river...........and all 100% true because, well, there was a flood at some point. But I think they are wrong as three of them fell from their oxen and died, two of them were scalped and burned at the stake by Indians, four were struck by lightening, two of them died of natural causes and their remains used to feed the party, which is what they were doing, enjoying a candle lit dinner when the flood got the rest of them.....

 

[ECS]

What is Ellis's story?

With that reply, you have revealed that your Beale research isn't as strong as you present.

 

[masterpoe]

Just because there was a flood does not mean that the letter was destroyed in said flood. That is abstract thinking and has no provenance

Interesting, possibly the friend that was to send the letter died in the flood that took over most of the city and destroyed the letter!

 

[masterpoe]

....you can't really believe that anyone is going to take this wildly manufactured nonsense seriously? Why not just say that the holder of that alleged paper got run-over by a buffalo, struck by lightening, choked to death on a piece of jerky,....since these things existed as well? This is all getting all too funny now, just plain hysterical. Your alleged Beale letter speaks of "a key" and according to your honest narration the author already has "a working" key (that still don't work as he suggested), so how can he be so certain that there is another key, why not two other keys, three other keys, etc. How do you know "this missing paper" is even a key? All you keep doing is trashing your own sense of logic with all of this fabricated nonsense. Too funny and far-far too telling of your tunnel vision focus to create something from nothing despite all of the contrary facts in front of you.

Have you ever been in a major flood?

 

[masterpoe]

Interesting, possibly the friend that was to send the letter died in the flood that took over most of the city and destroyed the letter!

The letter never made it out of St Louis! What is the reason for the letter never made it to Mr Morriss. A simple letter handed to the fur trader at the trading Post. Then the rain came down and flood came up. No more trading Post! No more letter!

 

[bigscoop]

Have you ever been in a major flood?

Have you ever been struck by lightening.......?

 

[ECS]

Have you ever been in a major flood?

Yes I have. My family lived across the street from a river.
Have you researched Claudine Fulton Ellis's claim about this letter you keep posting about?

 

[franklin]

Interesting, possibly the friend that was to send the letter died in the flood that took over most of the city and destroyed the letter!

Maybe there was no letter at all, just a fiction of the author's imagination.

 

[P.ALLEN]

The bottom of the Mississippi between St. Louis and East St. Louis is littered with the carapaces of vessels and steam ships. Literal goldmine (a very very very dangerous goldmine) of artifacts. It is even possible to mudlark there, albeit there are no tides but the rising and falling water levels due to rains help. Be careful there, due to the currents and the amount of material at the bottom, it's as dangerous as cave diving.

 

[ECS]

The letter never made it out of St Louis! What is the reason for the letter never made it to Mr Morriss. A simple letter handed to the fur trader at the trading Post. Then the rain came down and flood came up. No more trading Post! No more letter!

"That 'ol man river
He don't say nothing, but he must know something
He just keeps rolling along"

 

[masterpoe]

....you can't really believe that anyone is going to take this wildly manufactured nonsense seriously? Why not just say that the holder of that alleged paper got run-over by a buffalo, struck by lightening, choked to death on a piece of jerky,....since these things existed as well? This is all getting all too funny now, just plain hysterical. Your alleged Beale letter speaks of "a key" and according to your honest narration the author already has "a working" key (that still don't work as he suggested), so how can he be so certain that there is another key, why not two other keys, three other keys, etc. How do you know "this missing paper" is even a key? All you keep doing is trashing your own sense of logic with all of this fabricated nonsense. Too funny and far-far too telling of your tunnel vision focus to create something from nothing despite all of the contrary facts in front of you.

All fact! The flood of 1826 took out the trading post there for years. Flooded miles in the areas of St Louis. One letter held for ten years by a friend in the area of St Louis that never made it out in 1832! Just the facts!

 

[ECS]

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Now that we have a date of the flood of St Louis that destroyed the key named the unintelligible writing by the first few paragraphs of the Papers. We can separate all who say they have the said letter as fiction.

You and M Poe have established the date of a flood, but neither of you have confirmed NOT the existence of the alleged letter referred in the Beale Papers.
...and neither of you have addressed the claim of Claudine Fulton Eliis of finding this letter in a family Bible in Roanoke, Virginia.

So what we have here is three different versions of why this alleged letter was never sent:
1. The letter is a fictional device of a dime novel
2. The letter was destroyed in a flood
3. The letter was waylaid by Ebenezer Nelms and hidden in a family Bible

 

[bigscoop]

All fact! The flood of 1826 took out the trading post there for years. Flooded miles in the areas of St Louis. One letter held for ten years by a friend in the area of St Louis that never made it out in 1832! Just the facts!

So you're suggesting that every claim of remedy ever made are also facts. Applying your sense of logic and reason then the struck by lightening suggestion is also fact if someone wants it to be fact. Instead of a trading post it is also fact that the holder of the letter was living in canoe, all fact, as you call it. That's interesting, way-way out there in fantasy space, but interesting all the same. And this is why nobody will ever take your professor seriously and why he is struggling to build an audience, because he's simply manufacturing a fictional remedy.

Just more concrete proof that the Beale Papers "will be" whatever anyone desires them to be. Thanks you for supporting that "true" conclusive fact.

 

[masterpoe]

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You and M Poe have established the date of a flood, but neither of you have confirmed NOT the existence of the alleged letter referred in the Beale Papers.
...and neither of you have addressed the claim of Claudine Fulton Eliis of finding this letter in a family Bible in Roanoke, Virginia.

So what we have here is three different versions of why this alleged letter was never sent:
1. The letter is a fictional device of a dime novel
2. The letter was destroyed in a flood
3. The letter was waylaid by Ebenezer Nelms and hidden in a family Bible

Would that be on some other thread? This is just the FLOOD thread and we are posting about the FLOOD here.