✅ SOLVED WW2 German Item with Swastika

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Does anybody know what this is? I didn't dig it but this is the best place I could think of to find out what it is. I was told it went to a WW2 German Panzer tank and tightened the track on the tank but don't know if that's right can anybody ID this?
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I was going to say. I always thought the Tbar type tube hinge was older than WWII. That type hinge can be found on CW era badges. But I dont know Nazi stuff. I have some originals that I may sell. I have had them since the 70s so Im hoping they are original. There are a ton of reproductions out there. Wehrmacht-Awards.com good advice.

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Like Nola Ken says the real ones are out there. Myself I stay away from dealers. I find my gems in yard sales, warehouse sales, evictions and the trash. Sometimes at Goodwill. Yes the trash is one of my best places to find great stuff. Especially after someone old dies. Often the family throws everything away.
 

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I was going to say. I always thought the Tbar type tube hinge was older than WWII. That type hinge can be found on CW era badges. But I dont know Nazi stuff. I have some originals that I may sell. I have had them since the 70s so Im hoping they are original. There are a ton of reproductions out there. Wehrmacht-Awards.com good advice.

I cant edit either and try to find a sad (smiley) face.

Quick question how much would you sell one for?
 

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I was going to say. I always thought the Tbar type tube hinge was older than WWII. That type hinge can be found on CW era badges. But I dont know Nazi stuff. I have some originals that I may sell. I have had them since the 70s so Im hoping they are original. There are a ton of reproductions out there. Wehrmacht-Awards.com good advice.

I cant edit either and try to find a sad (smiley) face.

You're right that style of pinback was around long before the war, but if you look closely at the one 808 posted, and compare it to an original, you'll notice that the mount for the hook is really oversized, and that the soldering job is really sloppy. Real german medals and military badges of that time were made by skilled jewelers for the most part and were always neatly done. It's true that quality went down in certain areas as the war went on, but it was quality of materials not workmanship. Also I can't really put it into words, but the hinge just doesn't feel right when I look at it if you know what I mean. I've handled hundreds of them and it's just that after a while you get to the point where it's kind of intuitive I guess.
 

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Here's the badge I think they were trying to copy.... If the stamp in the center is "L/11" (Wilhelm Deumer of Ludenschied) You can see the differences I mentioned. This one was priced at 159.00 which seems high to me, but I really haven't followed the prices in quite a while.

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Here's the badge I think they were trying to copy.... If the stamp in the center is "L/11" (Wilhelm Deumer of Ludenschied) You can see the differences I mentioned. This one was priced at 159.00 which seems high to me, but I really haven't followed the prices in quite a while.

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Mine says L/. Some number I can't tell. What does the L/ number mean?
 

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It's a code used to identify different makers, each maker had their own ID number basically. There was an online reference list but I can't find it anymore. Most, but not all original medals and badges will have a makers mark, but some types were rarely marked. Also different types of medals and badges can be marked differently, so one maker could have several different codes or marks. That's one of the reasons some really good fakes are hard to spot.
 

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I'm not sure wat it is but would love help figuring it outtrying tovfigure out how to upload pic ...plz bear with me
 

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I'm going to throw y'all off now. Mine has the stem with a screw on the back. Can anybody find me one of those on this crane company thing? I would think the crane one wouldn't have that. Plus another military expert agreed on the gas chamber idea. Can anybody find that pic?
I have one as well.. find out on north side of Pittsburgh in basement. Hidden in walk
Does anybody know what this is? I didn't dig it but this is the best place I could think of to find out what it is. I was told it went to a WW2 German Panzer tank and tightened the track on the tank but don't know if that's right can anybody ID this?
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Does anybody know what this is? I didn't dig it but this is the best place I could think of to find out what it is. I was told it went to a WW2 German Panzer tank and tightened the track on the tank but don't know if that's right can anybody ID this?
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What's the value of it for today? I have one as well. Found it in the wall of basement... in pittsburgh pa. In 1980s
 

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I know this has been kicked around, but I swear I've seen that knob on old steam radiators or furnaces from the early 1900's. I did a quick search, no knob found, but here's a furnace valve with the symbol.
As far as the Dachau connection, I've been there multiple times. The gas chamber is just an open room "shower bath" area in the crematorium barracks. The gas came from canisters outside as someone pointed out. There's way too much graphic evidence about this place and I don't care to describe it any further. I would say that any connection to this or any other terrible place like it is very remote. Also why would you want a connection to this anyway? Just my 2 cents.
 

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I know this has been kicked around, but I swear I've seen that knob on old steam radiators or furnaces from the early 1900's. I did a quick search, no knob found, but here's a furnace valve with the symbol.
As far as the Dachau connection, I've been there multiple times. The gas chamber is just an open room "shower bath" area in the crematorium barracks. The gas came from canisters outside as someone pointed out. There's way too much graphic evidence about this place and I don't care to describe it any further. I would say that any connection to this or any other terrible place like it is very remote. Also why would you want a connection to this anyway? Just my 2 cents.
To get rid of it!!! Lol But to see if it's of any value to sell to another fool. Cash then will be distributed to part donation.
 

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I was a machinist at A.W. Cash Valve Co. The company started in 1924. By the start of WW2, Arthur Wesley Cash boasted that every submarine in the US and German fleet were equipped with Cash built valves. I guess that it is remotely possible that Crane valves were being used in Germany.
 

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Here's some earlier TNet posts on the valves/plumbing.



Unscrupulous dealers sell these (Plumbing pieces) as "Concentration Camp Used" valves, to the unknowing/uneducated militaria collectors. Only for them to learn when posting on a militaria forum about their unique find, that it has no connection to the WWII German War Machine or Concentration Camps.

Plus a news story on them.

 

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