What is this? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Amen! Bidding is now up to $80, with 2 days left.
I read that Tiffany & Co. is suing e-Bay over fake jewelry. In 2004 Tiffany secretly purchased about 200 Tiffany jewelry items. In its investigation the jeweler found three out of four pieces were fakes. E-Bay is the center of a new universe of conterfeiting with virtually no policing. The case will go to trial by the end of this year. The uncontrolled flood of fakes is driving down the value of authentic goods.
 

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I don't have a lot to say
about this matter. ???
By no means do I clam to
know alot about anything. :-\
With that being said, the tension
on this matter seems to be very
touchy. :-\
So time 4 some humor ;D ;D ;D

New York....New Jersey
what's the difference
( GETA ROPE ) :) ;) :D ;D :o
HH
Ray
 

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gildilks, Did you find out if it is silver?
okie, no tension on my side. I'm not bidding. :D It is a mystery on how this CSA artifact became lost under a N.J. driveway. But stranger things have happened. If it is authentic, it would be worth more than the $100 bid. Are there no Civil War experts on this forum today?
 

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gildilks said:
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Thanks to everyone for all the responses. Does anyone happen to know where I could research this item at on the web? Or any books I can look in at the library? I am curious to find out some more on the history of the item. Thanks
Gil
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why the research ???you have it on ebay????
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I have been metal detecting and mining for many years. From my experience, I would say the ingot is not silver or gold because when silver tarnishes it usually turns black and gold does not tarnish. I have never seen silver or gold turn the color of this ingot.
 

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I'm with Jay.? If it were silver it would be tarnished black or at least silver with some tarnish.? Here is an '89 Canadian nickle for comparison.? I also resized his picture to get it about life-sized.? He said it was 1 1/4 inches long.? It's still a cool item though!
 

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Just guessing here. Don't all precious metal bars have the weight stamped on it as well as the assayer. The item looks modern. No menition is made of the weight of the ingot. Weight it. 31.1 grams = 1 Troy oz . Silver ingots were large back then as no one in his right mind would make a 1 oz silver ingot. My first guess is modern, non precious and the CSA stands for something other than Confederate States of America. My second guess is than it is a very poor fantasy piece as the guy who made it did not know how silver ingots are susposed to look like. As replica confederate plates have been found by innocent detectoristics who believed them to be original no blame is assigned.

I really hope I am wrong
But just my 2 cents
George
 

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What got me was that he said this was his first find. How many people will immediately sell their very first find? He said he found it under his driveway. Coincidentally there was another under the driveway find that day. This is where I think he got the story... Newbie to Treasurenet... E-bay newbie. And the real shocker was that he is selling it as a Silver ingot when he doesn't even know if it is silver. Now he seems like a nice guy that is just not too experienced...But don't they all. I am not knowledgeable on Civil War artifacts, but I say this is a con. A buyer who thinks an item is fake has almost no recourse. E-bay argues that it has no obligation to investigate counterfeiting claims. E-Bay does not even kick them off. They keep right on selling fakes. Buyer beware...Bids at $102.
 

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The seller ended this listing early because the item is no longer available for sale.

Think it is just a Newbie thing.? Perhaps a bit of confusion, being a new
e-Bay seller.

Who knows.

all have a good un.....................
 

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SHERMANVILLE ILLINOIS said:
Think it is just an Newbie thing.? Perhaps a bit of confusion, him being a new
e-Bay seller.
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I agree. He wouldn't have asked for Info if he was sure one way or the other.

I hope it turns out to be very valuable, now that he pulled it.


Keep us Informed Gil.
 

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Hi!
Like I said before I only listed this on ebay to try to find something out about it. Maybe everyone will believe me now. Obviously if I was trying to con somebody I would of just let the auction end. I had an overwhelming interest in the item and did learn some things as I did on this site as well. Everyone is trying to read too much between the lines. I found this item and am just trying to find out about it. Personally I really don't care if it is worth 2 cents because money is not a big issue. I thank everyone for their responses and will continue to try to find out what the item is, whether fake or authentic. What I am still looking for is a site that will give me some information on such items. Thanks
Gil
 

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Hi!
I took it to Beachcomber Collectibles and they said that it was silver. They sell coins, metal detectors, antiques, and all sorts of stuff. I spoke to the owner and he told me that it was indeed a silver ingot. As far as the history of the item he said he was going to do a little research and if he found anything would get back to me.
 

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May I suggest to post your find in "Today's Finds" or in "misc.""Civil War". Different people may get a look at it. You have my curiousity.
I know very little about Civil War artifacts. I know the Confederacy issued their own postage stamps and paper currency. But did they mint any coinage? What did they use?
We have good researchers here on Treasurenet that should be able to help.
Let us know if you are able to ID.
 

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I'm pretty sure it's a fake troy ounce. For one thing the six's and the nine's are different, and they used an upside down 9 for the #6 in the date 1863. What they were doing is trying to copy the offset size used in many modern coins, like nickles. It's just doesn't figure that if the date was set so good that the other #'s were so crooked. Also it's just in too good of shape to have been in the ground long enough to gain that patina, which I'm positive is an acid made aging finish. If it was real, and that close to pure silver, it would not have that kind of patina on it, if any. There is a flood of fakes coming out of the middle east nowadays. The CSA never made silver bars, and if they did you would never be able to prove it.
 

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