"What Is It?" Its "Solved!" (Thanks to all)

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

"What Is It?" It's "Solved!" (Thanks to all)

Important Note* (Added after original posting).

Please read this entire thread, especially my post #17 before formulating an opinion on this topic, or posting additional comments.

Thank you.

Respectfully,

Bob


~ SUGGESTION ~



As a big fan of the "What Is It" section of TreasureNet, I would like to suggest posting "Google Earth" links/coordinates showing where individuals find their items in question. Every time I read one of the threads, I can't help but wonder where it was found, and what the terrain and other features of the area look like. I realize some members may not want to disclose this information, and I respect that. But I'm sure there are many others who would gladly share it, but just never really thought about doing it. It think it would be facinating to have a visual to add to the enjoyment of participating in and following many of the ongoing topics.

Google Earth is easy to navigate through, and once you're familiar with how to determine coordinates, it's just a simple matter of posting that information here for others to look at. As many of you already know, Google Earth is so advanced now it will take you down to almost ground level, not to mention other features too numerous to include here.

Anyway, it's just an idea I had and wanted to throw out there for others to think about. I hope many of you will agree, and I will look forward to "zooming in" with you as dig your way into history.

Thanks for reading this. Your comments are always welcome.

Sincerely,

SODABOTTLEBOB

 

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[72cheyenne]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Mapping )

This is a good idea, but I think a lot of people are unwilling to post where they find stuff.

Heck, I can't even POST most of the stuff that I find due to a written agreement, I could IMAGINE what would happen if I posted GPS coordinates....

This is true, although it sounds like a great idea, and I know you yourself would mean no harm if someone revealed a location, there are many out there that would jump at an opportunity to "illegally or unethically" hit a site that someone else was working on. I know a lot of guys already use GPS in mapping thier finds, especially those across the pond like Crusader, but I doubt they would show thier maps until all research and recovery is done.

Most guys here have the mentality of "historical preservation", and keeping locations secret allow that. The first moment GPS cordinates to where the "gold coin" was found hit the internet, they become public, and then you would have "claim-jumpers" crawling all over the place.

 

[DCMatt]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Mapping )

Bob,

I don't need to know an exact location. State, County, City is close enough for most research. Also was it in the woods or a field or a house site... And what was found with it.

DCMatt

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Mapping )

DC MATT -

Thanks. Exactly my intent. Just a general area within several square miles would be all I needed. Just something to add a little more interest to the topic. Personally, I'm just curious what kind of terrain, etc. where stuff is being found in various parts of the country. I understand an individual's desire to keep an exact location seceret, and intend to do it myself. I'm just referring to general locations.

Anyway, it's just a suggestion. And to those who post such information, you have my thanks and appreciation for adding one more element to a facinating hobby.

Here are the coordinates to a rattlesnake den I've known about and have been to numerous times over the past thirty five years. There's even a picture that shows where the den is located. At times on a warm spring day there might be as many as 20+ rattlesnakes sunning themselves on the rock ledges. Of course, as summer approches they disperse with each going their seperate way and claiming their own territories. You know, kind of like treasure hunters do.

32 40'34.96"N 116 32'35.32"W (Located in east San Diego County, California)

( Don't forget the "gap" after the first 32, and on both sides of 116 )


Thanks in advance to all interested individuals.

Respectfully,

SDBB

 

[Montana Jim]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Mapping )

I'll never do that.

Besides - almost no place looks today like what it looked like back when, if considering relics.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Mapping )

Geez ...

I know I said comments were welcome, but I didn't realize I was going to generate so much controversy. I just thought it would be interesting to incorporate something extra to add to our treasure hunting experiences. Google Earth is one of my favorite sites, as I know it is of others as well, and I just thought it would give us some more cool stuff to look at. Mainly I'm just interested in seeing the "hang-outs" of other treasure seekers. I realize I could go on Google Earth and do this randomly, but it's so much more interesting to connect an "area" to a fellow member knowing they were there and found something of interest to share here.

This is merely a "suggestion" for those who may be interested, but for one reason or another just never thought about it before.

Thanks to all of you who think the glass is half full.

Respectfully,

Bob

 

[72cheyenne]

Re: "What Is It?" - "Where Is It?" (Forum "Suggestion")

Bob,

I never intended anything negative, as I think it is a neat idea, but in saying that, anyone who worries about the preservation of their site will not or should not do it. You mentioned using Google Earth in your original post, and most of us know that Google Earth can take you right down to street view.

DCMatt suggested "in general" locals being told, and yes, this helps greatly when trying to ID an item, or if you are documenting a particular item like Don in SJ.

I myself love to see general pics of where items are found, even in-situ's, and lots of people here occasionally show that, but without an address or coordinates, their site preservation is still pretty safe. Check out some of BuckleBoy's posts. He shows in-situ's and site pictures all the time, but unless you are him or his hunting partner, it would be a needle in the haystack to find that site he's on somewhere in Kentucky. Therefore his site stays preserved.

I promise I'm not saying this to be negative, seeing the glass half full, or a buzzkill. I am only saying this because of experience. There no worse feeling than to innocently mention too or show some inquiring mind where you found something, only to find out the next time you go to your site, there is dug holes all around where someone has taken the liberty to destroy all your hard work and offseason research of finding the site.

Bob, you are a great addition to this site. Keep up the enthusiasm.

BTW, I have a bunch of old painted on label and embossed soda bottles I want to get you to look at one of these days when I get some pics of them. They are of some brands I have never heard of.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Re: "What Is It?" - "Where Is It?" (Forum "Suggestion")

72cheyenne -

I think we're on the same page here - it's just that when someone says they found an old button or something from a Civil War battlefield, I immediately try to visualize the area, and typically come up blank as I have done very little traveling in that part of the country. Like I said earlier, I suppose I could just Google the whole country in general, which I've actually done a lot of, but it just isn't the same. I guess what I'm really looking for here is "MORE PHOTOGRAPHS" taken during those exciting treasure hunts. I'm really a visual kind of guy, and nothing excites me more than to see a photo of a bunch of rusted junk (and some good stuff too, of course) laying on the ground at the edge of some unknown field in the middle of upstate who-knows-where, with the proud treasure hunter himself standing there smiling. In other words, I love pictures - the more the better! And with todays advanced camera technology, I think we are missing the boat by not posting more of them. As they say, one picture is worth a thousand words. Just think how boring it would have been if that History Channel program about Jesse James' treasure had been all narrative and no imagery. I can get that sort of thing out of a dime store novel. And to this day I still don't know "exactly" where in Kansas all of that Jesse James footage took place! So let me see those creeks and bramble bushes and hollows I hear all of you talk about so often, and allow me to be there, if only for a moment, and experience it as if I were standing right there next to you, saying, "Holy Cow, Mac - that's just about the most amazing what-ja-ma-callit I ever saw in my life!"

Of course, this is just the "suggestion" of a simple and humble man.

As for those ACL soda bottles you mentioned, I'd love to check them out, and truly thank you for the "suggestion."

Sincerely,

Bob

 

[72cheyenne]

Re: "What Is It?" - "Where Is It?" (Forum "Suggestion")

Bob,

It's all good, and I can't agree more that I love seeing pictures. I understood your idea and your good intention behind it. I do recommend, if your don't already, of going over on occasion to the Today's Finds forum and just checking out ModernMiner's, Buckleboy's, Ironpatch's, Romeo's, and many others posts from time to time. These guys most always tell an intriguing story, with great (and I mean great) photos of sites, in-situ, and finds before and after.

Getting that much info over here on What is it will be quite a stretch to see happen, most times we can't even get good clear front/back shots of the item in question like we are supposed to, per the rules of posting here. I stick around here mostly because I like the challenge of trying to figure something out and the learning from others.

I may try and post my bottles on here soon so you can give me the lowdown on them.

All the best,

'72

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Re: "What Is It?" - "Where Is It?" - "More Photos." (Forum "Suggestion")

'72

Thanks again.

"Today's Finds" is usually the first thread I look at each day. And BuckleBoy's topic, "IRON Brigade", posted yesterday, 12-15-09, is a "PERFECT" example of what I'm referring to. Fantastic text! Fantastic photos! He even shows a photo of the well house. I loved it!

Perhaps I posted my request for more photos, etc. in the wrong place. But speaking personally, nothing bores me more that for someone to post a "What Is It?," and all they do is show a blurry picture of it and say, "I found this the other day. Does anybody know what it is?"

I'll probably upset some people by saying this, but that thread on the so called Canadian lighthouse pirate cave or whatever it is, has become the weirdest thing I've ever read. And to think that some people have accused me of being frivolous. But with almost 3000 views, and 150+ post, I guess it's popular, making me the black sheep again.

Maybe I'll delete this entire thread and start from scratch. I realize I'm a newcomer on TreasureNet, but I am an educated man, and have always considered myself articulate and typically very easy going. But it seems the more I read and see on this website, the more I get the impression that it's a private club. There's definitely some interesting stuff here, but there's also a lot of drabble, (mud slinging), and one sided opinions that I never expected to get caught up in. It was "suggested" that I take it easy. Taking it easy is like water off a duck's back for me. But I take such comments personal, and it just reinforces the impression that TreasureNet is a private club.

I guess it's hard for someone not to take my words personal, but they are not intended as such, and I apologize if speaking my mind is forbidden. After all, it's just one man's opinion in a sea of opinions. And what happens next? ... Well, I guess others will have to be the judge of that.

Now I have to ask myself, do I really want to post this? And the answer is ...



SODABOTTLEBOB

 

[72cheyenne]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Seriously! ) "What Is It?"

Bob, check your PM's.

 

[GopherDaGold]

Re: "What Is It?" - "Where Is It?" - "More Photos." (Forum "Suggestion")

'72 I'll probably upset some people by saying this, but that thread on the so called Canadian lighthouse pirate cave or whatever it is, has become the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. And to think that some people have accused me of being frivolous. But with almost 3000 views, and 150+ post, I guess it's popular, making me the black sheep again SODABOTTLEBOB ... (the troublemaker that everyone will soon forget!)

That thread can be compared to the reason why so many people tune in to Howard Stern...they want to know what is said next

 

[taz42o]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Seriously! ) "What Is It?"

Bob , dont let a few people drive you away from a good site with many good people . Most can recognize the few and dont put much stock in their comments.

 

[kuger]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Seriously! ) "What Is It?"

Bob,not what I say matters squat,but I would get too riled up.I of all people am guilty of getting caught up,in the 854%&it,I have come a long way in realizing that things are said and misconstrued on a computer.People will say things on here they normally would and often things are said that are taken the wrong way.I have seen some fine people leave here and it hurts us all with there loss.I would hope you take this into consideration and decide to stick around

 

[Monty]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Seriously! ) "What Is It?"

I don't need the coordinates to try to figure out what something is. All I need to know sometimes is what kind of are? Civil War site? Woods? Old home site? Old Stable? Something vague like that. And most important a good description with size and weight. Bullets need diameter as that one thing makes a world of difference. I would not give coordinates. Too many other people hunt this area and I wouldn't want a good site over run until I was finished. Monty

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Seriously! ) "What Is It?"

Greetings ...

In response to numerous personal messages I have received, 99% of which were positive, I would like to respond with the following ...

1. I apologize if I offended anyone personally. That was not my intent.
2. I'm not attempting to give TreasureNet a bad name. Of all the websites of it's
kind, it is still the best.
3. My specific purpose for posting this thread was merely a request for more photos
and more detailed information. I realize now I was wrong in suggesting Google
Earth coordinates. I understand and respect individuals reasons for keeping their
dig sites a secret. I also realize I should have posted my request in the "Everything
Else" catagory and not "What Is It?". And for that I stand corrected.
4. But can anyone really fault me for wanting to see more photos, and to request
more detailed information? The type of stuff I'm referring to is like what
BuckleBoy and others like him post on a regular basis. They're fantastic!
5. What really broke the camel's back for me was the picture of the "Bloody Zombie"
on that Canadian Lighthouse thread! (Totally inappropriate!)
6. I suppose the best thing to do would be to delete this thread altogether and
either start over again, or else just forget about it and carry on as usual. Which I
may do eventually, but for the time being will leave as is.
7. So without further ado, I would like to conclude this with the following saying ...

"Accentuate the positive. Eliminate the negative. And don't mess with Mr. Inbetween!"

So please post more photographs! Not Google Earth coordinates, but the close up stuff that shows you getting your hands dirty when you pull that priceless relic out of the ground. We all love treasure stories, especially true ones, so please go into more detail on that aspect too. And if you wish to post a photo or two of the terrain, that would be cool too. But not to show precisley where it was found, but just to add flavor to your story. Haven't we all heard the phrase, "Don't forget your camera?" That's what I'm talking about here my friends! Simply that and nothing more!

Thanks again to all of you who have sent me positive responses. And I apologize again if I stepped on anyone's toes. Keep up the good work, and a Merry Christmas to all.

Sincerely,

Bob Brown ... a.k.a. SODABOTTLEBOB

 

[DCMatt]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Seriously! ) "What Is It?"

A merry Christmas, Bob. And God bless us, every one!

DCMatt

 

[72cheyenne]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Seriously! ) "What Is It?"

A merry Christmas, Bob. And God bless us, every one!

DCMatt

Absolutely what DCMatt says!!

It was good talking with you last night, and that site you forwarded me for bottles is awesome.
http://www.gono.com/

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Seriously! ) "What Is It?"

Last but not least -

Where'd you find those cool looking Santa Smileys? My reply screen doesn't have them!

SODA"SANTA"BOB

 

[72cheyenne]

Re: "What Is It?" ( Seriously! ) "What Is It?"

Last but not least -

Where'd you find those cool looking Santa Smilies? My reply screen doesn't have them!

SODA"SANTA"BOB

Look just to the right of the "coffee cup" for [more] . Click on that and you'll get a whole plethora of smileys!!