What Is A Hypothisis, a Theory, and an Idea?

[bigscoop]

I think all of these definitions need to be posted so some folks will understand the difference;

hy·poth·e·sis
hīˈpäTHəsəs/
noun
noun: hypothesis; plural noun: hypotheses

1. a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.
   "professional astronomers attacked him for popularizing an unconfirmed hypothesis"
   

   synonyms:

   theory, theorem, thesis, conjecture, supposition, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, assumption; More notion, concept, idea, possibility "his “steady state” hypothesis of the origin of the universe"

   • Philosophy
     a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth.

the·o·ry
ˈTHirē/
noun
noun: theory; plural noun: theories

1. a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
   "Darwin's theory of evolution"
   

   synonyms:

   hypothesis, thesis, conjecture, supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption, presupposition; More opinion, view, belief, contention "I reckon that confirms my theory" principles, ideas, concepts; philosophy, ideology, system of ideas, science "modern economic theory"

   • a set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based.
     "a theory of education"
   • an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action.
     "my theory would be that the place has been seriously mismanaged"

i·de·a
īˈdēə/
noun
noun: idea; plural noun: ideas; noun: the idea

1. 1.
   a thought or suggestion as to a possible course of action.
   "they don't think it's a very good idea"
   

   synonyms:

   plan, scheme, design, proposal, proposition, suggestion, action point, brainchild, vision; More aim, intention, purpose, objective, object, goal, target "our idea is to open a new shop" meaning, significance, sense, import, essence, gist, drift; point, aim, intention, purport, implication; design, motive "I get the idea"

   • a concept or mental impression.
     "our menu list will give you some idea of how interesting a low-fat diet can be"
     

     synonyms:

     concept, notion, conception, thought; More image, visualization; hypothesis, postulation "the idea of death scares her" sense, feeling, suspicion, inkling, hunch, clue, theory, notion, impression; datedfancy "I had an idea that it might happen" estimate, estimation, approximation, guess, conjecture, rough calculation; informalguesstimate "an idea of the cost"

   • an opinion or belief.
     "nineteenth-century ideas about drinking"
     

     synonyms:

     thought, theory, view, opinion, feeling, belief, attitude, conclusion; informaltake "Liz had other ideas on the subject"

2. 2.
   the aim or purpose.
   "I took a job with the idea of getting some money together"

fact
fakt/
noun
noun: fact; plural noun: facts

1. a thing that is indisputably the case.
   "the most commonly known fact about hedgehogs is that they have fleas"
   

   synonyms:

   reality, actuality, certainty; More truth, verity, gospel "it is a fact that the water is polluted"

   antonyms:

   lie, fiction

   • used in discussing the significance of something that is the case.
     noun: the fact that
     "the real problem facing them is the fact that their funds are being cut"

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

In a "teaching mode", eh...? Are YOU, the "Prof", that some are enamored of...? Heh... Looking down on us, eh...? YOU need an UP-GRADE... FACTION - Fiction based on FACTS. BPP/"JOB PRINT" is a GREAT "example"...

 

[bigscoop]

In a "teaching mode", eh...? Are YOU, the "Prof", that some are enamored of...? Heh... Looking down on us, eh...? YOU need an UP-GRADE... FACTION - Fiction based on FACTS. BPP/"JOB PRINT" is a GREAT "example"...

No, not looking down on anyone. But it has become obvious that some are confused when attempting to explain their hypothesis, theories, ideas, and why they are such and not actual fact. I think this confusion is what has led to a lot of premature certain claims of remedy and solve, etc. So maybe by posting these various definitions it can help to prevent any further error and confusion regarding so many recent claims of certain remedy & solution.

 

[ECS]

I doubt that will occur.

 

[bigscoop]

I doubt that will occur.

Well, then it will be good to have these references/definitions readily available whenever said future events take place. This way the debating can be decisively ended without continued debate.

 

[ecmjamsit]

treasurelagoon.wordpress.com is gone? what a shame....I was going to read it

 

[bigscoop]

treasurelagoon.wordpress.com is gone? what a shame....I was going to read it

Changed: manaloneblog.wordpress.com

 

[ECS]

... So maybe by posting these various definitions it can help to prevent any further error and confusion regarding so many recent claims of certain remedy & solution.

That still doesn't cover the speculation presented as fact from careless and sloppy research or unverified claims of solutions or discovery that caused much controversy on these Beale threads.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

That still doesn't cover the speculation presented as fact from careless and sloppy research or unverified claims of solutions or discovery that caused much controversy on these Beale threads.

Your own...?

 

[bigscoop]

Any new hypothesis?

 

[Mackaydon]

You may wish to add to your list:
What is a WAG?
Don.....

 

[bigscoop]

I think all of these definitions need to be posted so some folks will understand the difference;

hy·poth·e·sis
hīˈpäTHəsəs/
noun
noun: hypothesis; plural noun: hypotheses

1. a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.
   "professional astronomers attacked him for popularizing an unconfirmed hypothesis"
   

   synonyms:

   theory, theorem, thesis, conjecture, supposition, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, assumption; More notion, concept, idea, possibility "his “steady state” hypothesis of the origin of the universe"

   • Philosophy
     a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth.

the·o·ry
ˈTHirē/
noun
noun: theory; plural noun: theories

1. a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
   "Darwin's theory of evolution"
   

   synonyms:

   hypothesis, thesis, conjecture, supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption, presupposition; More opinion, view, belief, contention "I reckon that confirms my theory" principles, ideas, concepts; philosophy, ideology, system of ideas, science "modern economic theory"

   • a set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based.
     "a theory of education"
   • an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action.
     "my theory would be that the place has been seriously mismanaged"

i·de·a
īˈdēə/
noun
noun: idea; plural noun: ideas; noun: the idea

1. 1.
   a thought or suggestion as to a possible course of action.
   "they don't think it's a very good idea"
   

   synonyms:

   plan, scheme, design, proposal, proposition, suggestion, action point, brainchild, vision; More aim, intention, purpose, objective, object, goal, target "our idea is to open a new shop" meaning, significance, sense, import, essence, gist, drift; point, aim, intention, purport, implication; design, motive "I get the idea"

   • a concept or mental impression.
     "our menu list will give you some idea of how interesting a low-fat diet can be"
     

     synonyms:

     concept, notion, conception, thought; More image, visualization; hypothesis, postulation "the idea of death scares her" sense, feeling, suspicion, inkling, hunch, clue, theory, notion, impression; datedfancy "I had an idea that it might happen" estimate, estimation, approximation, guess, conjecture, rough calculation; informalguesstimate "an idea of the cost"

   • an opinion or belief.
     "nineteenth-century ideas about drinking"
     

     synonyms:

     thought, theory, view, opinion, feeling, belief, attitude, conclusion; informaltake "Liz had other ideas on the subject"

2. 2.
   the aim or purpose.
   "I took a job with the idea of getting some money together"

fact
fakt/
noun
noun: fact; plural noun: facts

1. a thing that is indisputably the case.
   "the most commonly known fact about hedgehogs is that they have fleas"
   

   synonyms:

   reality, actuality, certainty; More truth, verity, gospel "it is a fact that the water is polluted"

   antonyms:

   lie, fiction

   • used in discussing the significance of something that is the case.
     noun: the fact that
     "the real problem facing them is the fact that their funds are being cut"

Done!....

[h=2]wag[/h] [h=3]noun[/h] acronym of "wild-assed guess". Contrast with "swag" (scientific wild-assed guess).

 

[Rebel - KGC]

LOL!

 

[bigscoop]

Done!....

wag

noun

acronym of "wild-assed guess". Contrast with "swag" (scientific wild-assed guess).

I love it!....note "swag".... So the Beale thing is pretty much all wag & swag.....
So we have wild-assed wag & wild-assed swag about a bunch of men who went into the wild.....

 

[bigscoop]

I think all of these definitions need to be posted so some folks will understand the difference;

hy·poth·e·sis
hīˈpäTHəsəs/
noun
noun: hypothesis; plural noun: hypotheses

1. a supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.
   "professional astronomers attacked him for popularizing an unconfirmed hypothesis"
   

   synonyms:

   theory, theorem, thesis, conjecture, supposition, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, assumption; More notion, concept, idea, possibility "his “steady state” hypothesis of the origin of the universe"

   • Philosophy
     a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth.

the·o·ry
ˈTHirē/
noun
noun: theory; plural noun: theories

1. a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.
   "Darwin's theory of evolution"
   

   synonyms:

   hypothesis, thesis, conjecture, supposition, speculation, postulation, postulate, proposition, premise, surmise, assumption, presupposition; More opinion, view, belief, contention "I reckon that confirms my theory" principles, ideas, concepts; philosophy, ideology, system of ideas, science "modern economic theory"

   • a set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based.
     "a theory of education"
   • an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action.
     "my theory would be that the place has been seriously mismanaged"

i·de·a
īˈdēə/
noun
noun: idea; plural noun: ideas; noun: the idea

1. 1.
   a thought or suggestion as to a possible course of action.
   "they don't think it's a very good idea"
   

   synonyms:

   plan, scheme, design, proposal, proposition, suggestion, action point, brainchild, vision; More aim, intention, purpose, objective, object, goal, target "our idea is to open a new shop" meaning, significance, sense, import, essence, gist, drift; point, aim, intention, purport, implication; design, motive "I get the idea"

   • a concept or mental impression.
     "our menu list will give you some idea of how interesting a low-fat diet can be"
     

     synonyms:

     concept, notion, conception, thought; More image, visualization; hypothesis, postulation "the idea of death scares her" sense, feeling, suspicion, inkling, hunch, clue, theory, notion, impression; datedfancy "I had an idea that it might happen" estimate, estimation, approximation, guess, conjecture, rough calculation; informalguesstimate "an idea of the cost"

   • an opinion or belief.
     "nineteenth-century ideas about drinking"
     

     synonyms:

     thought, theory, view, opinion, feeling, belief, attitude, conclusion; informaltake "Liz had other ideas on the subject"

2. 2.
   the aim or purpose.
   "I took a job with the idea of getting some money together"

fact
fakt/
noun
noun: fact; plural noun: facts

1. a thing that is indisputably the case.
   "the most commonly known fact about hedgehogs is that they have fleas"
   

   synonyms:

   reality, actuality, certainty; More truth, verity, gospel "it is a fact that the water is polluted"

   antonyms:

   lie, fiction

   • used in discussing the significance of something that is the case.
     noun: the fact that
     "the real problem facing them is the fact that their funds are being cut"

It still all comes back to the above. You either got provenance or you got one of the others on this list, or just "wag". Provenance doesn't come after the fact, it comes before. Provenance isn't something you can manufacture.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

You doing a lecture at a Beale Conference...?

 

[bigscoop]

You doing a lecture at a Beale Conference...?

No, no, far too many completely biased true believers for my taste.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

LOL! Hostile environment, eh...?

 

[bigscoop]

LOL! Hostile environment, eh...?

I don't know about hostile, but certainly hopeless (probably hostile too). But those folks are going to continue to believe regardless of the realities.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

If you say so...