Wagoner's Lost Ledge

[cuzimloony]

Watching the Chargers/Ravens game lol. Quick posts. Greg included McKinneys articles within his article.

The story I heard was quite a bit different from the Barry Storm version. I've never written it down. One of my prospecting mentors was an old Mormon guy who told me the "real" Wagoner story. I suspect Tom got a similar story. The "Mormon version". Everyone involved was Mormon. Including Hebe MacDonald. They held back some info as far as I can tell.

I see. I'll leave you to it. Thank you for all your info Jim. It amazes me how much you know...
Side note: When I lived back east, "Mormon" was just something you heard about on the TV. Now that Im here, I can count 4 Mormon churches as I drive down the road before reaching another variety (baptist, catholic, etc...) Now that I think about it, my polling station is the local Mormon church. They are everywhere here in large numbers so......in my head that lends credence to the Mormon aspect of this story. Thanks Jim!

 

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[markmar]

Hesiod:
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There are a lot more I don't have in front of me, from many Greek poets not as famous as Homer or Hesiod. Apollo always has blonde hair too, probably because he represents the sun, but you can see them online anyway.

https://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyle/half-of-european-men-share-king-tuts-dna-idUSTRE7704PB/

Yes, those ancient writers and philosophers, used the blonde hair as a divinization, something different you could see around. Those statements were the beginning of the aryan race concept.
Plato described the Atlanteans in the same way, as superior human beings, concept which was adopted in the 19th and 20th century by racists like Hitler and different other clans all over the world.
Also the fairy tales writers adopted this concept by describing the most beautiful women and the most strong men, having blond hair and giving them titles like king, prince, queen and princess. Even that blonde woman with magical powers from " Game of Thrones " follows the same concept, so the aryanism still exist in the background.

History also taught how aryans were/are just an illusion, an idea, common people with a specific body characteristics.

 

[cuzimloony]

Yes, those ancient writers and philosophers, used the blonde hair as a divinization, something different you could see around. Those statements were the beginning of the aryan race concept.
Plato described the Atlanteans in the same way, as superior human beings, concept which was adopted in the 19th and 20th century by racists like Hitler and different other clans all over the world.
Also the fairy tales writers adopted this concept by describing the most beautiful women and the most strong men, having blond hair and giving them titles like king, prince, queen and princess. Even that blonde woman with magical powers from " Game of Thrones " follows the same concept, so the aryanism still exist in the background.

History also taught how aryans were/are just an illusion, an idea, common people with a specific body characteristics.

Yes you are correct. The greatest poets, historians and philosophers of their day and ours used blonde hair as the epitome of their race. Even ancient Greek statues were painted blonde when you analyze the remaining paint. Just like you said.......they were the DIVINE examples (and by so saying, proving my point).
Now go cope some more and keep telling yourself that those ancient philosophers, historians and poets were "illusioned," because post WWII "historians" said so.

At first it was: "No No you're thinking of Scandinavian Gods!"
1 hour later it is: "Ok fine the Greeks DID have blonde Gods, but they were just illusioned!" lol
Go cope.

Was Darius the Great "illusioned" too? Read line 2 of the inscription at his tomb, which he wrote himself before dying. What does he call himself? Illusion? Where does the word IRAN come from? What is the root of IRAN? What about Mt ARARAT (in the CAUCAS mountains, which is where the word caucasian comes from...so ARYAN and CAUCASIAN in the same mountain chain)? What is the root word there? Last but not least...what is the root of the word ARISTOCRAT? I know I know....the root word is "illusion" right?

Inscription of Darius the Great at Naqsh-e Rostam

 

[markmar]

Yes you are correct. The greatest poets, historians and philosophers of their day and ours used blonde hair as the epitome of their race. Even ancient Greek statues were painted blonde when you analyze the remaining paint. Just like you said.......they were the DIVINE examples (and by so saying, proving my point).
Now go cope some more and keep telling yourself that those ancient philosophers, historians and poets were "illusioned," because post WWII "historians" said so.

At first it was: "No No you're thinking of Scandinavian Gods!"
1 hour later it is: "Ok fine the Greeks DID have blonde Gods, but they were just illusioned!" lol
Go cope.

Was Darius the Great "illusioned" too? Read line 2 of the inscription at his tomb, which he wrote himself before dying. What does he call himself? Illusion? Where does the word IRAN come from? What is the root of IRAN? What about Mt ARARAT (in the CAUCAS mountains, which is where the word caucasian comes from...so ARYAN and CAUCASIAN in the same mountain chain)? What is the root word there? Last but not least...what is the root of the word ARISTOCRAT? I know I know....the root word is "illusion" right?

Inscription of Darius the Great at Naqsh-e Rostam

I don't understand your imput , but yes, aryan lineage = full alazonism of being something special. I believe even a kid would understand Darius texts as a promoter of himself. If he was so special, why those statements were not written by someone else, have had died all his admirators?
if you want to look like a Greek God, it's ok. You can say your God chose you to look like a Greek God and to find the Wagoner's lost gold mine.
And I wrote, the aryan concept was an illusion, an idea. You are not paying attention or you are not capable to understand what you are reading.

 

[cuzimloony]

I don't understand your imput , but yes, aryan lineage = full alazonism of being something special. I believe even a kid would understand Darius texts as a promoter of himself. If he was so special, why those statement were not written by someone else, have had died all his admirators?
if you want to look like a Greek God, it's ok. You can say your God chose you to look like a Greek God and to find the Wagoner's lost gold mine.

Whatever. Cope.

 

[markmar]

Speakng of those 7 shafts at Millsite, which may be the 7 shafts Tom Kollenborn mentions in his story..... I was looking through old drone video and found something the group here might appreciate. Before the KGC or Air Force stole my drone (lol.......I say that jokingly, maybe...long story), I was practicing searching for clues with it. One time, when I first got my drone, I practiced around Millsite. So, here it is. It is an unlisted video, meaning only people who have the link can see it. I'll post that here. I just don't want this video open to the general public on my page since the camera work sucks, the flying sucks, the color sucks, there is no editing, there is no music, there is no sound at all even, it is just a video for my own research. Anyhow..........the idea was to scan up the mountain at one spot, then slide over and scan down the mountain, rinse repeat ad infinitum. I didn't do so well. I was new with the drone at this pont, BUT I think it may provide valuable info to you guys here interested in this Millsite aspect to the 7 shafts in the Kollenborn Wagoner story.
This video is just inside the canyon.
Timestamps:
At 1:37 in the video, upper left of the screen, a buddy of mine who is about 6 feet tall enters the shot. This is for scale.
At 2:18 in the video you can see what it looks like looking back (looking southish) from the entrance to Millsite Canyon.
At 2:52 you can see one of those "cowboy walls." Or was this put here for mining purposes? Any input would be appreciated.
At 3:15 ish you can see the jeep 2 track that leads INTO Millsite Canyon. I always see side-by-sides full of entire families taking this route to who knows where........
The rest of the video is just looking at the ground and is dumb, if it wasn't dumb already.
At least, some who have never been here, or some who may have been here long ago, here is a bit of recent video for your pleasure...

I hate your video! Got me dizzy turning your drone around and around.

 

[cuzimloony]

I hate your video! Got me dizzy turning your drone around and around.

Awesome. Now you know what it's like to go outside You're welcome!

 

[markmar]

Awesome. Now you know what it's like to go outside You're welcome!

Yes, those rocks and cacti made me shiver.