Wagoner's Lost Ledge

Excellent post! I just looked at my quadrangle...... no Whiskey Springs. Very very good points. Now you have me interested in Herman's cave. I must have been within walking distance of it, but I still haven't worked out exactly where it is yet. I just know it' in the area. I wonder where Howland found that quarts and I'm wondering even more where those shafts are..... Looks like another trip is in order. Thank you sir!
There's nothing of any value to see at Hermans Cave...except for the view ;)

This is how the moonshiner's layout was explained to me:

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There was some old trash laying around at the camp. Nothing in the cave, I don't think Herman or anyone else actually lived in there unless there was a bad storm, but even then I wouldn't want to be in there.

Supposedly there was always someone on watch on the bluff overlooking La Barge. They could see anyone coming in either direction up/down Labarge, and anyone coming over the divide and down into Whiskey Springs Canyon.
 

There's nothing of any value to see at Hermans Cave...except for the view ;)

This is how the moonshiner's layout was explained to me:

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There was some old trash laying around at the camp. Nothing in the cave, I don't think Herman or anyone else actually lived in there unless there was a bad storm, but even then I wouldn't want to be in there.

Supposedly there was always someone on watch on the bluff overlooking La Barge. They could see anyone coming in either direction up/down Labarge, and anyone coming over the divide and down into Whiskey Springs Canyon.
I'm pretty sure I pointed that cave out in the video. I just didn't realize at the time what I was looking at.
 

17:28 - 17:35 in the video. Wanna chat about those 4 pyramid shaped rocks and the heart looking one, perched up on it's pedestal.......and the triangle on to the right on the ground? Possible meanings? Completely natural? I'm trying to find them on GE currently, w/o much success yet.....
Also, those water bladders are placed in a rock that totally looks like a snakes mouth, opened.
 

I need your help fellas. I want to document the hike around picacho butte, just like on the maps...up Red Tanks, over to "around whiskey springs," but.....Im having a hard time finding a relatively easy way to get to that part of Red Tanks that wont take a day or two in and of itself.
Maybe one of you guys more knowledgable of the area can give me a tip? Or maybe we can figure it out together......
 

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