victorian picture hanger- thanks Lucas, DCMatt, Erik, turtlefoot, & many others

[umrgolf]

victorian picture hanger- thanks Lucas, DCMatt, Erik, turtlefoot, & many others

thanks BCH, Crusader, SS, tinpan, and the rest who put time into helping to solve... appreciated

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

If you dont respond, this post will just fade away. Its too bad because anytime members find 2 or more of the exact item, its usually solvable.

 

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[umrgolf]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

If you dont respond, this post will just fade away. Its too bad because anytime members find 2 or more of the exact item, its usually solvable.

I don't have any scissors that would be reasonable to photograph for this post.. The only ones I have are a big fat pair that aren't anywhere close to the intended size (if it is a hanger) I asked a couple neighbors and they don't have them either.. I appreciate your help with this one, just not worth it to me to buy a pair of those scissors

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

If you dont respond, this post will just fade away. Its too bad because anytime members find 2 or more of the exact item, its usually solvable.

I don't have any scissors that would be reasonable to photograph for this post.. The only ones I have are a big fat pair that aren't anywhere close to the intended size (if it is a hanger) I asked a couple neighbors and they don't have them either.. I appreciate your help with this one, just not worth it to me to buy a pair of those scissors

OK no problem. 8) Sorry to be pushy. I thought everyone had scissors. Ill take your response as it doesnt fit.

19th century scissors were quite large and thick . tinpan

If someone is able to photoshop overlay the pairs that I posted, I think we will eliminate scissors as a possibility. Like you say, its not even close with a large pair. It would have to be a tiny pair and I believe it would not fit either. I spent several hours researching and Im losing interest too..

 

[DCMatt]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

I believe this is a Victorian era picture rail hook. They can be very ornate.

Do a Google images search on "Picture rail hook" and you'll see them. I didn't find any EXACTLY like this one, but I can see how the wire or cable would loop over the top prongs then inside the bottom tabs to hold securely.

DCMatt

 

[umrgolf]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

If you dont respond, this post will just fade away. Its too bad because anytime members find 2 or more of the exact item, its usually solvable.

I don't have any scissors that would be reasonable to photograph for this post.. The only ones I have are a big fat pair that aren't anywhere close to the intended size (if it is a hanger) I asked a couple neighbors and they don't have them either.. I appreciate your help with this one, just not worth it to me to buy a pair of those scissors

OK no problem. 8) Sorry to be pushy. I thought everyone had scissors. Ill take your response as it doesnt fit.

19th century scissors were quite large and thick . tinpan

If someone is able to photoshop overlay the pairs that I posted, I think we will eliminate scissors as a possibility. Like you say, its not even close with a large pair. It would have to be a tiny pair and I believe it would not fit either. I spent several hours researching and Im losing interest too..

hey, I added a pic with some scissors, they'd have to be super miniature

 

[umrgolf]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

I believe this is a Victorian era picture rail hook. They can be very ornate.

Do a Google images search on "Picture rail hook" and you'll see them. I didn't find any EXACTLY like this one, but I can see how the wire or cable would loop over the top prongs then inside the bottom tabs to hold securely.

DCMatt

I think you're right let me see what a couple others think

 

[Erik in NJ]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

I agree 100% with DCMatt - Early to mid Victorian era picture rail hook. I think the wire was looped over the top hooks then between the lower ones for security so that a heavier or costlier picture could not be jarred off the hook or skewed accidentally and/or slid along the rail for positioning.

 

[umrgolf]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

I agree 100% with DCMatt - Early to mid Victorian era picture rail hook. I think the wire was looped over the top hooks then between the lower ones for security so that a heavier or costlier picture could not be jarred off the hook or skewed accidentally and/or slid along the rail for positioning.

thanks for the reply I think you both are right.. it makes the most sense of anything I've heard.. a couple suggested the idea, but didn't go into as much detail. thanks

 

[turtlefoot13]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

This link might help.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-victorian-ornate-brass-63943144

Doug

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

This link might help.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-victorian-ornate-brass-63943144

Doug

That's good research and a Great ID by Mat ...now just to explain the Crown image

SS

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: British Sword hanger?

It looks stamped, not engraved. The crown look more German than Brit. Not beefy enough for a sword hanger... maybe a picture hanger?

A pic of the whole thing would help.

 

[umrgolf]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

This link might help.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-victorian-ornate-brass-63943144

Doug

thanks Doug! great save there (btw, originally from Rolla, lived and worked at the Lake for 3 years too)

It looks stamped, not engraved. The crown look more German than Brit. Not beefy enough for a sword hanger... maybe a picture hanger?

A pic of the whole thing would help.

I saw that post, but didn't put 2 and 2 together way back when

 

[turtlefoot13]

Re: victorian picture hanger- thanks Lucas, DCMatt, Erik, turtlefoot, & many others

I go through Rolla every now and then. I really enjoy the Ozarks.

Doug

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Re: British Sword hanger? NEW pics..

This link might help.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-victorian-ornate-brass-63943144

Doug

I searched but couldnt find a match so I gave up. I agree this solves it; now find one with a crown.

Im posting your pic here for easy future reference.

 

[Lucas]

Re: victorian picture hanger- thanks Lucas, DCMatt, Erik, turtlefoot, & many others

That one has a chrysanthemum, so prob. mid-1870's onward (Aesthetic Movement/Japan mania).

I think the crown is just a crown motif with like no significance.

BTW a lot of the picture "wires" from this era were fancy cords with tassels.

Hats off to Turtlefoot for the ID.

 

[turtlefoot13]

Re: victorian picture hanger- thanks Lucas, DCMatt, Erik, turtlefoot, & many others

That one has a chrysanthemum, so prob. mid-1870's onward (Aesthetic Movement/Japan mania).

I think the crown is just a crown motif with like no significance.

BTW a lot of the picture "wires" from this era were fancy cords with tassels.

Hats off to Turtlefoot for the ID.

Lucas - you made the id with the second post. I just had too much time on my hands to play on Google images. Hat's off to you!

Doug

 

[IronSpike]

Re: victorian picture hanger- thanks Lucas, DCMatt, Erik, turtlefoot, & many others

Great ID. Well done turtlefoot13