✅ SOLVED Very old Masonic thing

[recondigger]

I found this a while ago and haven't been able to find a match and its driving me nuts. The site I found it was a cellar hole dated between 1790-1870. It's very heavy silver plate almost a sheet of Tin foil thick no base metal under the silver with a lead back that is very brittle it has a small iron piece left from a hook. Now my first thought was a bridle rosette but then I thought about a hat pin of some kind. I thought that back in the early days masons were a lot more secretive and wouldn't have a rosette on their horse tack I don't know much about them and I could be wrong. Any help on age and purpose would be highly appreciated. I know it's old I have found lead filled rosettes from around the early and mid 1800's and the lead is in much better shape. And it next to a quarter

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[JOHUNT]

Sorry I can't help with the ID, but it sure is a neat find. I actually have a spot to hunt that was an old Masonic Temple in CNY. Just gotta find time. Good luck

 

[yaxthri]

Cool find...
UnIDentifiable for me, can't help...

 

[recondigger]

Thanks for checking it out

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[vpnavy]

Interesting find - can't wait for someone to ID it recondigger.

 

[woodstock]

What a strange piece , it almost looks like a Eagles head on the side opposite from the Masonic Symbol ... or are my eyes playing tricks on me ? I'm not a expert but my first impression is that it's some sort of Masonic tag or a Seal that was on something important enough to be attached too. Maybe it was hooked to a bag of currency or a bag of Masonic documents brought over to the states . Never the less it's always going to be a mystery and a conversation maker . It might not have a ton of value but I bet whatever it was attached to was ! Very cool and very , very interesting . IMHO Woodstock

 

[woodstock]

Maybe it just dumb luck but the closest I have found so far is this .

token shown on the left, full of masonic symbols … wonder what it was originally? It is recorded on the UKDFD (38851) who say Lodges probably presented tokens of this type to members as keepsakes or mementos.
I would like to thank those detectorists who allowed me to photograph their finds, the Curators of the The Library & Museum of Freemasonry at Great Queen Street in London, and The Berkshire Library and Museum of Freemasonry at Sindlesham for their help in the preparation of this blogpost. This has been adapted from one of my articles first published in The Searcher magazine.

And this , but it's a button ... could it have been a button ?



It's not the same but it does look like kind of ... Woodstock

 

[recondigger]

I'm 100% sure it's not a button

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[recondigger]

I don't believe it was a token because of the iron piece. Maybe it was a box seal and the box was full of secret documents I don't know. I was hoping someone would know

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[garren]

I vote for bridle rosette. Here's one that sold on ebay a while back. It doesn't look like yours but at least we know that they do exist.

 

[recondigger]

I vote for bridle rosette. Here's one that sold on ebay a while back. It doesn't look like yours but at least we know that they do exist.

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Thanks that's what I thought when I first found it but then I was told they wouldn't have them because they wouldn't want everyone to know they were masons. I think your right and its a bridle rosette I just wish I knew how old it was

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[recondigger]

I'm marking it as solved I guess I'll never know how old it is for sure but it must be a bridle rosette thanks everyone