ivan salis
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the EL SENOR SAN MIGUEL or as its more commanly referred to SR SAN MIGUEL (nao) is often mixed up with the SAN MIGUEL (galera) aka "senora de la popa"which was a formerly dutch ship often called " LA HOLANDESA" or "Olandesa"---spanish slang for "the dutch" or "dutch" she was also called "LA GALERA" because she was a dutch galera (galley) class of vessel ---and "LA GALERA" means "the galley" in spanish ---she was captured and put into the "fleet" by ECHEVEREZ
's "fast" pataches (a type of sloop) off cartagena ,columbia in 1714 along with "the french prize" a french frigatethat renamed "EL CIERVO".
the SAN MIGUEL was its "religious name" given to ship for "heavenly protection"---its "offical name "given" by its owner ECHEVERZ who bougjt it in porto bello, panama for 2000 pesos was "senora de la popa" ----it was was reportly cast high and dry between the sandy point and rio mar areas--
the ship that was reported as lost in the AMELIA ISLAND,FLA AREA was the EL SENOR SAN MIGUEL (a nao) that offically was carrying tabacco and shipment of silver coins (most likely this is why the "wreckage" of a large vessel was found 39 to 40 miles to the northward of st augustine---CAPT GENERAL ECHEVEREZ looked hard for both his lost son and his lost vessels-- "wreckage" of a large ship was found about 39 miles northward of st augustine (15 leagues--- "spanish" leagues are 2.6 miles ---15 x 2.6= is 39 miles) according to spanish reports from the cuban governor to the mexican viceroy in oct of 1715---there is also a english letter that "report" the wreck in oct of 1715 "about 40 miles to the northward of st augustine" this area is a few miles above NASSAU SOUND area were I believe the "main wreck site" I beleve to rest at ---the upper decks and debris was carried northward by the waves---it was very common for the top deck to "shear off" and break away from the bottom of the vessel --the bottom of the ship, cannons and heavy cargo sank "in place" with the top deck often being carried some way before grounding on shore.
there have been many reports of local beach comber types finding early 1700's time frame spanish coins (both silver and gold) afterbad sea storms on the local beaches over the years
also it has reported that a dutch cannon (with salt water crocs on it) was found in the local area---many years ago--- it was quite common for the spanish to take the dutch cannons off of captured dutch ships due to their being made of bronze and thus of better quality than the iron ones often carried by spanish ships--
the fact that "no" gold coins or bullion was offically listed on the EL SENOR SAN MIGUEL comes as no great surprize to me since the smuggling of gold back to spain was normal and there are many accounts of spanish salvors ---often finding --more gold than was "offically" listed while they were doing their salvage efforts on sunken vessels---
Ivan
's "fast" pataches (a type of sloop) off cartagena ,columbia in 1714 along with "the french prize" a french frigatethat renamed "EL CIERVO".
the SAN MIGUEL was its "religious name" given to ship for "heavenly protection"---its "offical name "given" by its owner ECHEVERZ who bougjt it in porto bello, panama for 2000 pesos was "senora de la popa" ----it was was reportly cast high and dry between the sandy point and rio mar areas--
the ship that was reported as lost in the AMELIA ISLAND,FLA AREA was the EL SENOR SAN MIGUEL (a nao) that offically was carrying tabacco and shipment of silver coins (most likely this is why the "wreckage" of a large vessel was found 39 to 40 miles to the northward of st augustine---CAPT GENERAL ECHEVEREZ looked hard for both his lost son and his lost vessels-- "wreckage" of a large ship was found about 39 miles northward of st augustine (15 leagues--- "spanish" leagues are 2.6 miles ---15 x 2.6= is 39 miles) according to spanish reports from the cuban governor to the mexican viceroy in oct of 1715---there is also a english letter that "report" the wreck in oct of 1715 "about 40 miles to the northward of st augustine" this area is a few miles above NASSAU SOUND area were I believe the "main wreck site" I beleve to rest at ---the upper decks and debris was carried northward by the waves---it was very common for the top deck to "shear off" and break away from the bottom of the vessel --the bottom of the ship, cannons and heavy cargo sank "in place" with the top deck often being carried some way before grounding on shore.
there have been many reports of local beach comber types finding early 1700's time frame spanish coins (both silver and gold) afterbad sea storms on the local beaches over the years
also it has reported that a dutch cannon (with salt water crocs on it) was found in the local area---many years ago--- it was quite common for the spanish to take the dutch cannons off of captured dutch ships due to their being made of bronze and thus of better quality than the iron ones often carried by spanish ships--
the fact that "no" gold coins or bullion was offically listed on the EL SENOR SAN MIGUEL comes as no great surprize to me since the smuggling of gold back to spain was normal and there are many accounts of spanish salvors ---often finding --more gold than was "offically" listed while they were doing their salvage efforts on sunken vessels---
Ivan
