Underwater leases

[diverjon123]

I was scuba hunting a couple of days ago. I was down for a about 30 minutes can back up and police sheriff boat was parked up to mine. He told me someone had least this whole area and was trying to find a shipwreck. He also told me I had to go about 5 miles either way to get out of the least which I think was bs which is why I'm posting this. Does anyone knows where I could find a list of underwater leases in the east coast of Florida down to the keys so I well not get pulled again. Thanks

 

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[Denniss]

I was scuba hunting a couple of days ago. I was down for a about 30 minutes can back up and police sheriff boat was parked up to mine. He told me someone had least this whole area and was trying to find a shipwreck. He also told me I had to go about 5 miles either way to get out of the least which I think was bs which is why I'm posting this. Does anyone knows where I could find a list of underwater leases in the east coast of Florida down to the keys so I well not get pulled again. Thanks

Were you lobster/spearfish hunting or treasure hunting?

 

[doc-d]

How much does it cost to lease? Does the person who leases the area hire the police or do they hang out seeking violators?

 

[Booty Salvage]

They are not hired. It's their job to stop people from looting. Almost all of the beach from the power plant in ft pierce to bonsteel park in Sebastian are leased to Queens Jewels 1715, Brent Brisben is who you would contact. The information is on his website.

Police officers know who is supposed to be on the leases. Also, it's pretty easy to spot someone metal detecting from a boat. Really easy. They usually do safety stops and check for wildlife violations. However, they will arrest on site people illegally salvaging in a leased area, or any area for that matter without the proper paperwork.

It's easy to become an investor on one of the boats already working, but you can put your own operation together as well. It's hardwork because most treasure is found using propwash deflectors not just blindly roaming reefs. It seems easy, but it's not at all. In fact it's very dangerous and people can die.

Happy hunting.
Eric

 

[diverjon123]

Were you lobster/spearfish hunting or treasure hunting?

I was detecting when he stopped me. Searched the boat for any artifacts the was told to leave.

 

[diverjon123]

They are not hired. It's their job to stop people from looting. Almost all of the beach from the power plant in ft pierce to bonsteel park in Sebastian are leased to Queens Jewels 1715, Brent Brisben is who you would contact. The information is on his website.

Police officers know who is supposed to be on the leases. Also, it's pretty easy to spot someone metal detecting from a boat. Really easy. They usually do safety stops and check for wildlife violations. However, they will arrest on site people illegally salvaging in a leased area, or any area for that matter without the proper paperwork.

It's easy to become an investor on one of the boats already working, but you can put your own operation together as well. It's hardwork because most treasure is found using propwash deflectors not just blindly roaming reefs. It seems easy, but it's not at all. In fact it's very dangerous and people can die.

Happy hunting.
Eric

Thanks Eric,does the state keep any record of these leases? Is there a data base where I could look my location up and it Would show active leases? Thanks

 

[Booty Salvage]

I don't know. I only know about the leases I work. If you find something post it in a new thread

 

[FISHEYE]

Diverjon,what beach were you off of?I have charts from the state of florida that show where all the boundries are for all the leases on the east coast.

You are lucky to get off with just a warning from the water cop.he could have arrested you and whoever was with you and impounded your boat,trailer and all your gear including your truck and a warrant could be had to search your house and whatever other property you own or rent.You can be charged with theft from the state,leaseholders and for disturbing the bottom.Companies that own leases and the state of florida dont take to kndly to people that break the law.Ignorance of the treasure laws is no excuse.

 

[diverjon123]

Diverjon,what beach were you off of?I have charts from the state of florida that show where all the boundries are for all the leases on the east coast.

You are lucky to get off with just a warning from the water cop.he could have arrested you and whoever was with you and impounded your boat,trailer and all your gear including your truck and a warrant could be had to search your house and whatever other property you own or rent.You can be charged with theft from the state,leaseholders and for disturbing the bottom.Companies that own leases and the state of florida dont take to kndly to people that break the law.Ignorance of the treasure laws is no excuse.

Yes i realize, he was a nice officer and just told me to leave but how far I had to leave is what I was wondering about. I am located In between the west palm beach inlet and boca raton inlet.

 

[doc-d]

How does the lease affect shore diving.....assuming you had access to the ocean from the shore, where does the lease start?
How/where does one find out about leases.......

 

[FISHEYE]

Most leases start at the shoreline at high tide and low tide.And can go all the way out to the 3 mile limit.Most of the fisher/brisben leases go out 3000 yards or 1.7 miles.You can call or email the state BAR and request a copy of the active and inactive lease areas for the entire state of florida.Good luck with this request as i have been trying to do this the last 3 months with no response from any of them at talahassel.I just wanted a updated list as i have one from a few years ago.

 

[GatorBoy]

High tide and low tide?
A lease starts at the average low tide mark..at least that's what I've always known to be the case.
How would the Florida antiquity laws effect this kind of thing?
I can't imagine anyone would be scuba diving for recently dropped items.. and the bottom basically belongs to the state.
The way the law is worded I think it would be a violation to pull a clam from the bottom... not to mention a 1963 penny.

 

[diverjon123]

Most leases start at the shoreline at high tide and low tide.And can go all the way out to the 3 mile limit.Most of the fisher/brisben leases go out 3000 yards or 1.7 miles.You can call or email the state BAR and request a copy of the active and inactive lease areas for the entire state of florida.Good luck with this request as i have been trying to do this the last 3 months with no response from any of them at talahassel.I just wanted a updated list as i have one from a few years ago.

Could u post ur copy from a couple of years ago? Thanks

 

[FISHEYE]

I would like too but they are bigger than any scanner i have here.Somewhere on T-net all the GPS cords are listed for all the current lease sites.Do a search.

 

[Salvor6]

Here is my copy of the lease areas on the east coast. As you can see, almost the whole east coast from Cape Canaveral to Miami is leased to someone.

 

[ropesfish]

I copied and pasted this list of the "Fisher leases" from a post of Wreckdiver1715's from 2007. I have no knowledge of anything more current.

BENT ANCHOR S32G 27.55.7N X 80.29.12W; East to 27.55.7N X 80.28.57W; South-southeast to 27.53.28N X 80.27.24W; West to 27.53.28N X 80.27.68W; then follow the mean low tide line to point of beginning.
CABIN WRECK S27 27.49.8N X 80.25.55W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of mean low tide line.
DOUGLAS BEACH S26 27.25.3N X 80.16.50W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
POWER PLANT S25 27.21.2N X 80.13.65W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
ANCHOR WRECK S23 27.48.2N X 80.24.70W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
SPRING OF WHITBY S23 27.46.0N X 80.23.83W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
RIO MAR S23 27.38.3N X 80.20.90W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
SANDY POINT S23 27.35.8N X 80.19.65W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
UNKNOWN S23 27.19.0N X 80.12.30W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.
CORRIGANS WRECK S25 27.46.2N X 80.22.67W is the center point of a 3,000 yard radius excluding all land west of the mean low tide line.

Link to the thread> http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/b...rson-go-out-water-treasure-coast-areas-2.html

 

[diverjon123]

Here is my copy of the lease areas on the east coast. As you can see, almost the whole east coast from Cape Canaveral to Miami is leased to someone.

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=852086"/>

I can't believe that. That's insane. Now if all that land is leased then why don't I get pulled over and checked more then just that one time?

 

[diverjon123]

I would like too but they are bigger than any scanner i have here.Somewhere on T-net all the GPS cords are listed for all the current lease sites.Do a search.

Ok I will thanks

 

[ropesfish]

I can't believe that. That's insane. Now if all that land is leased then why don't I get pulled over and checked more then just that one time?

How often have you been metal detecting between the low tide line and the 3 mile limit? Had any luck?

 

[FISHEYE]

There are people that live on the beach and know lease holders and know what boats they use.If they see other boaters out there with divers they make phone calls either to the lease holders or the water cops.More so when they see divers go in and out of the water with metal detectors from the beach or water.Several contractors that work the fisher/brisben leases LIVE on the beach.