Treasure Set in Stone UPDATED X-RAY PHOTOS

1liquigirl

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Gambling in Atlantic City is a thing of the past. You'll make out better on the shoreline. I run with a Garrett Ace 250 and came back with this and a few pieces that I think are bayonets, various sand pennies and the mouth of an 1800's amber brown whiskey bottle. It stormed with thunder and lightning the night before, and the surf was really pounding. The beach opened at 6AM and out I went. I turned the stone over and there it was, a chain and a shiny silver coin sticking right out at me. I couldn't believe what I was seeing, and after the shock wore off, you should have heard me whooping it up. I put it in my bag with the shells I had been collecting prior. I didn't care at that point about breaking any of them, to me I don't think I'll ever find anything better. About a minute after I put it in my bag, an ATV cop went by me, and I ecstatically said "Hi" to him. It was probably pretty out of place, but I couldn't help it. I held onto that bag like my life depended on it all the way back to the hotel room, to show my sleeping partner the treasure I had truly found. I wonder how long it takes to embed coins and chains in to sandstone? More than 30 years, I'm sure. We didn't head straight home, we went to a friend of ours that owns a stones and gems shop. He'd never seen anything like this before. He told us that as is, we are looking at a value of at least $400. We plan to get the stone X-rayed at some random dentist's office to see if there may be a pendant or even a gem on the chain and if we're lucky, there may be more coins. There is an indent in the rock underneath the area that the coin is showing that could have held another coin, it is completely round and about the size of a dime. There's alot of MDing that goes on along the shores of Atlantic City and alot of iron content out there, so I bet this stone could possibly have been overlooked by others more than once. I want to get all of the sand removed that is concreted on this coin, but I'm afraid to hurt it in any way. I carefully removed some of the grains of sand with a razor blade and I am sure I didn't scratch it. It is just enough to see that some letters are still present, but not enough to identify them. I refuse to do anything more to it. I trust someone out there can get it clean. The chain located in the top left of the stone in picture one and on my finger in picture four is handmade, the ends of each link are wrapped over the next loop. It is non magnetic, but has been tested for 14 ct gold and dissolved right away at our local jewelry store, so it's more likely to be bronze. A few more links are showing on the other side of the stone from where it hangs out on the other, so most of the chain could be wrapped up inside the stone. The coin is smaller than a dime, about 16.6 millimeters in diameter and thinner than a dime. I live in Central Pennsylvania and I doubt there is anyone around here that could identify this coin, it it thinner and smaller than an American Dime.

Update: For the latest info on where we are at in research and IDing this coin, and it's continuing story, check out my post of the same title under Today's Finds. It's been pretty popular, and I'm proud to call you all my friends. I will continue to check this post for possible IDs and suggestions. Thanks to all.
 

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1liquigirl said:
I like this idea, I'm posting a Pic of one on the Today's Finds Forum titled the same. We'll see what they think. Thanks. If it's a tie rod, well that's an automobile piece, I found out. If it's that, it would be a pretty interesting story.
It is not a tierod. They're about 2 feet long. A tie bar is a type of tie tac, about 2 inches long. Think about this.... coins, jewelry, tie tac... could there be a body involved :o :o. Was a lot of "Mob" going on in Jersey in the 30's. Tony ;D
 

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The X-ray pics should be up at the top with my opener for this post, I see them. If all of you can't, let me know and I'll repost them. Here's some news... I was up all night sleuthing and searching, zoomed in on this pic and found a matching chain! Same type of links with the two ends wrapping over the next loop and it looks to be made of the same material too. The chain could be much older than the item and put on as an afterthought. Hard to say. Dated mid century, and the seller of this item on E-bay is in Tom's River, NJ. Not too far from Atlantic City, so it could be more than just a coincidence. Great to find the chain in use for something other than flushing toilets! Will have the Macro pics downloaded Monday, the latest, Tuesday.
 

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OK the chain could be something else but dont forget the short, large diameter threaded stud in the mix.
 

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We may never know the true identities of any of the items this stone contains, all of these items probably originated from all over, but regardless, coin identification will happen. I spoke with a gentleman that works with the geochemistry department. I sent him an e-mail so he can see the story, the pictures, the x-rays, the posts within the Today's Finds forum here on TNet. He said that this department should be able to help with our sand concretion problem on the coin. We just may get the ID on this coin we've all been waiting for. Thanks for watching!
 

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Been following this from the start and I think you have the right idea about how to deal with this. Clean away just enough of the crud to allow the coin to be clearly identified and then leave it as is and display it. If you break it all down into individual objects and remove all the concretion you just have an assortment of random objects and have lost the "cool conversation piece" aspect of the find. Keep us posted and have a great day.
 

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NHBandit said:
Been following this from the start and I think you have the right idea about how to deal with this. Clean away just enough of the crud to allow the coin to be clearly identified and then leave it as is and display it. If you break it all down into individual objects and remove all the concretion you just have an assortment of random objects and have lost the "cool conversation piece" aspect of the find. Keep us posted and have a great day.
Great advice. :icon_thumright:


I think it says "ED STATER" (moved from the Todays finds forum)
 

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1liquigirl said:
We may never know the true identities of any of the items this stone contains, all of these items probably originated from all over, but regardless, coin identification will happen. I spoke with a gentleman that works with the geochemistry department. I sent him an e-mail so he can see the story, the pictures, the x-rays, the posts within the Today's Finds forum here on TNet. He said that this department should be able to help with our sand concretion problem on the coin. We just may get the ID on this coin we've all been waiting for. Thanks for watching!


Was the coin ever identified?....
 

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Her last post was Nov. 1, 2010 Sad to think she might be one of those who put the detectoor away in the closet to gather dust when she didn't strike it rich the first few times out. Then again Winter is not kind to detectorists in the North East and she may just be hibernating.. :icon_pirat:
 

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