To much self defence????????????

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Well, now Holder thinks we have to many self defense laws. he doesn't realize his job is to inforce the laws, not make them. What would he have us do, just lay there and mess our shorts as someone smashes our head on the concrete? Frank...

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Well, now Holder thinks we have to many self defense laws. he doesn't realize his job is to inforce the laws, not make them. What would he have us do, just lay there and mess our shorts as someone smashes our head on the concrete? Frank...

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We have the right to defend ourselves. He has less than a 1% chance of repealing Florida's Stand your ground law.

He doesn't want American citizens to be able to defend their lives, but has no problem with selling American guns to Mexican drug dealers...(Fast and. Furious)


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I heard Holder was starting to refer to Florida as the "Gunshine State." At least he has a sense of humor...
 

I heard Holder was starting to refer to Florida as the "Gunshine State." At least he has a sense of humor...

That isn't humor, it is a verbal attack on our right to defend ourselves.

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Hey, I think we all know why Holder is getting into this - the funny thing is (based on everything I have read) it will hurt those pushing it more then anyone else. Such a shame...
 

I think he thinks he has a get out of jail pass from bo as he has covered up the reporter phone scandal for bo. Frank...

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It isn't fair when victims can fight back. Just think if those folks who were intimidated into not voting in Philadelphia had instead shown up with baseball bats.

THEN you would have had a court case on your hands. Just blocking Whites and Hispanics from the polls, that is ok according to Mr. Holder, but if you attempt to defend yourself against a young black man who is attacking you, you're depriving him of his right to right to pursue what makes HIM happy --- your injury or death, as well as whatever goods you might have on you.

Don't believe it? Then you need to open your eyes or commit yourself to the looney bin as you definitely have problems dealing with reality.

Did I miss something here?

What does this have to do with "blocking Whites and Hispanics from the polls".

How are you relating Holder to the polls at all?
 

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

"Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

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Difference is, I believe in the Declaration of Independence (from whence the quote came) and its logic, I believe in and respect the founding documents.

The only reason your quote exists is due to the Great War of Northern Aggression, aka the "Civil War" - fought for financial destruction of the South, not to end slavery as most want to believe. That was simply an effective smokescreen for the evil inflicted on this Union.

Wow...now you are the expert on governmental conspiracies from over 150 years ago? Does your paranoia know no bounds? Guess what, JWB was never caught...read the Lincoln Conspiracy for further details.

3/5ths law
Fredrick Douglas
Emancipation Proclamation
Civil Rights
MLK
Rosa Parks
Nikki Giovanni...they barbecued six million just to raise the price of beef.

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Please end it.....

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I removed my statements as they were viewed as out of line.

I only asked for the bickering to stop...

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I heard Holder was starting to refer to Florida as the "Gunshine State." At least he has a sense of humor...

Are you saying a Federal public official ridiculed a state and tried to install his views instead? Time for that official to face a jury, he is no longer for the "United States of America"!
 

Are you saying a Federal public official ridiculed a state and tried to install his views instead? Time for that official to face a jury, he is no longer for the "United States of America"!

None of them are,theyre all after the mighty dollar sign.Theyre doing what theyre paid to do,screw us and the country.Money has no patriotism.
 

Hey Frankn!! He conveniently forgot to figure out who executed a border patrol agent under his watch and apparently could care less!! GOD bless the agent and his parents!! Come on let's run more guns south of the border!! VIVA!! VERDE!!
 

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