This is an open response to DeepseekerADS and Others

The reason I Mentioned you Is not out of disrespect its because you are all over the place, what was you view on Brady bill in comparison to the one lets say NY, how about Benghazi I comparison to all the other barracks and embassy's, how about corruption in addmin such as Enron , Halliburton Its a huge statement on your point of view...

The Brady Bill was an ineffective knee jerk reaction. And it was essentially allowed to expire. NY, CO, CA, I fear those because they are with heavy and undisguised intent to infringe on the Bill of Rights.

Benghazi was a CRIME of the highest nature - "Stand Down" will ring for many years in these ears of mine. That again was abandonment and intent.

The barracks and embassy's sickened me, made me want to respond and we all had to helplessly watch as they faded from memory. We ARE at war, and the president denies it, and even rewards it = Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood - they laugh at us.

I was referred to an interesting read today: Genesis 16:12 "He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers."

That's a Biblical quote from 4,000 years ago referring to Abraham's begats Hagar and Ishmael, concerning the Bedouins (Arab) role in the future of mankind.

As for corruption in corporations like Enron, Halliburton, and Corporate America - including all stock and commodity markets - we are their harvest, and with every growing season they harvest us.
 

nat ID? you gotta be joking. Where the heck did you come from anyhow? Right outa left field from what I can see.
 

I find this post interesting in a couple of ways. I don't know the age of the OP, but do know that most of the rest of us are of the same era.

The rights that we are speaking of , and defending are ones that we have lived, worked for, defended, and in recent years see being eroded by uninformed and judgemental people who are nowhere as well informed about how it used to be, and preach to us about our lack of historical knowledge. With all due respect, our knowledge of the history we speck of was lived, and not learned from cyber space, where any one can say, and preach anything and not be held respondsible, your just a name or a number. Understand where we are coming from before you make broad statements about our knowledge and beliefs, they are real, and well formulated!

You have to be careful of us youngsters. We are always one out of control emotion away from a coup de tat. :)
 

the coup is in progress before our eyes.
 

I find this post interesting in a couple of ways. I don't know the age of the OP, but do know that most of the rest of us are of the same era.

The rights that we are speaking of , and defending are ones that we have lived, worked for, defended, and in recent years see being eroded by uninformed and judgemental people who are nowhere as well informed about how it used to be, and preach to us about our lack of historical knowledge. With all due respect, our knowledge of the history we speck of was lived, and not learned from cyber space, where any one can say, and preach anything and not be held respondsible, your just a name or a number. Understand where we are coming from before you make broad statements about our knowledge and beliefs, they are real, and well formulated!

Hi I'm an open book on my profile it states I'm 43, and its an assumption on my knowledge, what I don't do is compare to the good old days lol I look forward and learn that the times have changed, I am no longer the quarterback with the cheerleader I'm 43 years old with two kids that talk to me about technology as if it changes every second,
I talk to friends with video chat on my phone I track my kids with GPS on there phones..
 

And I respect that but I rather have big brother, I believe in a national Id, I find it ironic that a drivers licence is considered ID considering some states you can get one even if you are just on a visa....lol

See, I do not believe in Big Brother or a national ID..... I am a Constitutionalist and a Libertarian... No where in our Constitution or it's Bill of Rights does it say we surrender any rights and freedoms for the illusion of safety....Our forefathers warned us about that 237 years ago.....

"“Those who would give up Essential Liberty, to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety".
 

nat ID? you gotta be joking. Where the heck did you come from anyhow? Right outa left field from what I can see.

You must never have used a fake drivers licence when you where younger. Yes National ID you rather be safe with SS number which is disclosed to everyone or maybe you are one of those that has never thought that some can duplicate your drivers licence....
You know that the passport off considers a drivers licence as a form of id to get a passport......
 

you are not making any sense.
 

See, I do not believe in Big Brother or a national ID..... I am a Constitutionalist and a Libertarian... No where in our Constitution or it's Bill of Rights does it say we surrender any rights and freedoms for the illusion of safety....Our forefathers warned us about that 237 years ago.....

"“Those who would give up Essential Liberty, to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety".

Just one question whats the difference with a SS number and drivers licence and a national id when you fly to have present id wouldn't you rather have something that has a bit more security than a drivers license which anyone can get....
 

(CNSNews.com) – Earlier this year, in an interview with TV One, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) praised President Barack Obama for putting together a campaign database that "will have information about everything on every individual."

I remembered the headline of her statement, but my memory attributed it to Barbara Boxer or Donna Brazile - it was right after O won the second time.

Cmaracing, your self description shows you to be an average American family man. That database O has doesn't exclude you, or anyone else. Waters' comments are found in a separate post here.

I am not at all comfortable with that, nor should any other tiny little dot of a citizen in this nation, regardless of political beliefs.
 

I don`t fly and i don`t have to thank God ...so you want the whole nation to get a card so you feel safer?
This is not a left or right thing...IT is a right or wrong thing!
Gary
 

you are not making any sense.

Sorry have the kids next to me and trying to cook, all I'm saying the social security number is garbage unless its a corporation to value your worth, a drivers license can be obtained even if you only have a visitor visa, plus they are easy to fake because every state has different security protocols....

Its not the first time that an employ of the motor vehicles sales you a fake drivers licence, look it up there was just a huge bust a couple of years ago in NY,
so again I don't understand the reason not to like a National ID, I have an FID card, drivers licence, passport, so again whats the issue if they want to find me I have lived at the same address for 26 years...........
 

On a different thread I stated that I am a gen x'er and that I can not believe what comes outa the mtv generation, you sir prove my point. We have been lied to and spied on enough.
 

(CNSNews.com) – Earlier this year, in an interview with TV One, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) praised President Barack Obama for putting together a campaign database that "will have information about everything on every individual."

I remembered the headline of her statement, but my memory attributed it to Barbara Boxer or Donna Brazile - it was right after O won the second time.

Cmaracing, your self description shows you to be an average American family man. That database O has doesn't exclude you, or anyone else. Waters' comments are found in a separate post here.

I am not at all comfortable with that, nor should any other tiny little dot of a citizen in this nation, regardless of political beliefs.

Sorry to inform you but my local Republican party, Walmart, amazon, ATS, we have become so open we volunteer info for $.10 off our gas at our local food store, there is nothing that we our self have not supplied them, question every time you make a call you produce a paper file lets exclude NSA have you ever got a promotion from your phone company we can save you mony because you call that number allot but its out side your calling plan, they have you so again I don't get get it.
Most of you have gun licence, drive, pay bills, shop and use the stupid save cars that hang off the dam keys.
 

[h=2]AMENDMENT IV[/h]The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
 

On a different thread I stated that I am a gen x'er and that I can not believe what comes outa the mtv generation, you sir prove my point. We have been lied to and spied on enough.

Bevo I have one question do you shop, food, gas, ext. do you have one of those save cards, do you have a credit card, fid gun license, so you are off the grid... I am assuming you are using the internet... so I don't get it how are any of you lone wolf hiding....
 

[h=2]AMENDMENT IV[/h]The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

can I search your garbage on the curb? the moment u put it out there its no longer yours do any of you know how email, text cell phone work there are some different routs it take...
 

Ok email, take the time to see what happens to email when its sent its processed through different nodes, cell towers can be intercepted even home phones, your neighbor with a 5Mhz baby monitor can listen in on you....
 

does that make it right?
 

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