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I tried that, a few years ago, but didn’t have any luck. I got in touch with a researcher, who knew the family, and the family was suffering through some serious health problems, so I never tried to get in touch.
What little I know about it is that the man who owned the island, had a map with signs and symbols leading to a recovery. That’s all I know.
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Here is my post from Not Peralta's thread "Doc Noss-Victorio Peak or the Caballo Mountains. On this page is a discussion of great circle mapping.
Nope, nothing to do with aliens or underground bases. However, you do know how I like to play around with google earth. I hate to add to the conspiracies but this stuff is something you can look at right on the map.
I brought up to one of the guys, who seemed to be interested in a Phoenician connection, that Oasis, New Mexico and Victorio Peak have the same latitude as Acre, Israel. Over the centuries, Acre has been an important trading center for the Phoenicians and many others. During the Crusades, the Templars, as well as other Catholic orders, had strongholds at Acre.
There was more about Oasis. Five miles east of Oasis is a place named Brushy Mountain. Brushy is a place name that pops up frequently in my treasure legend mapping research. On google earth, if you run a line from the dot that shows Oasis to the mountain symbol at Brushy Mountain, you get a reading of almost 85 deg. I found the 85 degree bearing in Steve Clark's book New Mexico Confidential and I have found it repeated often in my mapping research. So, because of the latitude, the location of Brushy Mountain and the 85 degree bearing, I consider Oasis a place of importance in a treasure legend.
Now, still on google earth, run a line from Oasis to Victorio Peak and find the center point of that line. Center point is a place name that readers of the Black Book might recognize. After you find the center point between Oasis and Victorio Peak, run another line from that center point to my favorite treasure place in Colorado.....Treasure Mountain in Mineral County. Now look at that line and see if it passes close to Spaceport. Something else that is kinda interesting is that the distances, from Spaceport to Oasis and from Spaceport to Victorio Peak, are almost the same.
I know, I know, it is probably just coincidence. That could very well be. But it's right there on the map.
So what we have is a link between Spaceport, the Phoenicians, the Templars, the KGC and three treasure legends....and 24/7 security to boot.
Whenever I bring this stuff up, it always turns out to be a real conversation killer. It's my opinion that treasure legends, at setups like this, are fraudulent. But...I'm not on site.
Here's the link to the page. Sdcfia adds some good information.
www.treasurenet.com
Nope, nothing to do with aliens or underground bases. However, you do know how I like to play around with google earth. I hate to add to the conspiracies but this stuff is something you can look at right on the map.
I brought up to one of the guys, who seemed to be interested in a Phoenician connection, that Oasis, New Mexico and Victorio Peak have the same latitude as Acre, Israel. Over the centuries, Acre has been an important trading center for the Phoenicians and many others. During the Crusades, the Templars, as well as other Catholic orders, had strongholds at Acre.
There was more about Oasis. Five miles east of Oasis is a place named Brushy Mountain. Brushy is a place name that pops up frequently in my treasure legend mapping research. On google earth, if you run a line from the dot that shows Oasis to the mountain symbol at Brushy Mountain, you get a reading of almost 85 deg. I found the 85 degree bearing in Steve Clark's book New Mexico Confidential and I have found it repeated often in my mapping research. So, because of the latitude, the location of Brushy Mountain and the 85 degree bearing, I consider Oasis a place of importance in a treasure legend.
Now, still on google earth, run a line from Oasis to Victorio Peak and find the center point of that line. Center point is a place name that readers of the Black Book might recognize. After you find the center point between Oasis and Victorio Peak, run another line from that center point to my favorite treasure place in Colorado.....Treasure Mountain in Mineral County. Now look at that line and see if it passes close to Spaceport. Something else that is kinda interesting is that the distances, from Spaceport to Oasis and from Spaceport to Victorio Peak, are almost the same.
I know, I know, it is probably just coincidence. That could very well be. But it's right there on the map.
So what we have is a link between Spaceport, the Phoenicians, the Templars, the KGC and three treasure legends....and 24/7 security to boot.
Whenever I bring this stuff up, it always turns out to be a real conversation killer. It's my opinion that treasure legends, at setups like this, are fraudulent. But...I'm not on site.
Here's the link to the page. Sdcfia adds some good information.
DOC NOSS-Victorio Peak OR The Caballo Mountains
Uh oh, dog. This may open a whole new chapter in the Caballo-Victorio conspiracies show. Sitting halfway between the two infamous peaks, right on the 33° 0' north latitude line, the spaceport certainly has "location, location, location," going for it. For the readers who are unfamiliar with...
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Here is some more great circle mapping from my posts on TurtleisGold's thread " Old Tree Carvings Markers Codes KGC".
This is a complicated site and what you have found at Cedar Lake, if related, is probably a diversion. The information that I give you is a real conversation killer because I never hear back from anybody but one Tnet poster and he's the guy who gave me the heads up about the group that sets these sites up. The group isn't KGC although some KGC might have been members. They use great circle mapping to connect geographical points that are similar in name. I'll explain how they did it in your area, but you have to be able to plot points on Google Earth.
They use code names and the code name in your area is Wildcat. You might notice that there is a place named Wildcat Bluff about 23 miles SE of Makanda. This Wildcat Bluff has a connection to two other Wildcat Bluffs, one in Iowa and one in Arkansas. The great circle distance between the Illinois Wildcat Bluff and the one in Iowa is 367 miles, Illinois to Arkansas is 355 miles. You can see there is only a difference of 12 miles, too close to be coincidental. The great circle distance between the Iowa Wildcat Bluff and the one in Arkansas is 565 miles. These distances form a triangle with two short sides of 367 miles and 355 miles and a long side of 565 miles. This is a total distance of 1287 miles. I remember you said that you had 13 carved on some of the trees. I believe this number identifies the people who set up the site, kind of like a signature. You will notice that the total miles of the triangle, 1287 miles, is 13 miles short of 1300 miles. Could just be a coincidence, or not. Now for the angles of the triangle, they are 37 degrees in Iowa, 39 degrees in Arkansas and 103 degrees in Illinois, totaling 179 degrees, a little off but you can check it on Google Earth.
Ok, you have three geographical locations connected by name and math and none of them are even close to each other. I don't believe this is coincidence. Are these sites set up to hide treasure? I don't know. I know there is a treasure legend associated with the Arkansas site but I don't know if anything has been found. I came across an article that said the Masons would set up fake "treasure sites", complete with clues and legend, just to get a good laugh as their neighbors tore up the countryside looking for valuables. Who knows. I consider these sites an historical curiosity.
I'm always surprised that this mapping information doesn't generate any interest. Sdcfia wrote about this type of mapping in his book New Mexico Confidential: 30 Years of Snooping in Obscure Places. Some of these mapping points are close to areas associated with treasure legends. In fact, treasure legend terrain features are sometime a part of the mapping.
Anyway, here is more information about the Wildcat Bluff triangle. A few miles from Wildcat Bluff, Iowa is a town named Center Point. About nine miles from Wildcat Bluff, Ark., is a town named Center Point. I couldn't find any evidence of a town named Center Point near Wildcat Bluff, Ill., but here is where Google Earth comes in real handy. If you map a line from Wildcat Bluff, Ill. to the midpoint of the line that connects Wildcat Bluff, Iowa to Wildcat Bluff, Ark., that line passes by two peaks in eastern Missouri named Wildcat Mountain. These two mountains are about 35 miles apart on a NE to SW line. If you run a line from the NE Wildcat Mt. to the SW Wildcat Mt. and extend that line across Texas, you will pass right through a town named Center Point. So, we have three Wildcat Buffs, with two close to towns named Center Point and one associated with a town named Center Point, by code. Here are a couple of interesting facts about Center Point, Texas. Turtleisgold, you mentioned a pyramid/eye carving at Giant City. The latitude of Center Point, Texas is 29 dgrees 57' 08". The latitude of the Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt is 29 degrees 58' 34". Also, just north of St. Augustine, Florida, is the same latitude as Center Point, Texas, 29 degrees 57' 08". The distance from Center Point, Texas to St. Augustine, Florida is 1062 miles. The distance from Center Point, Texas to the southwestern most point in the United States is 1083 miles. So Center Point is pretty much the center point of the southern United States.
In the area about 25 miles NW of Wildcat Bluff, Arkansas, the treasure hunter, Bob Brewer, recovered two or three treasure caches that he documented in his book Rebel Gold. His treasure trails also included carvings on trees.
www.treasurenet.com
This is a complicated site and what you have found at Cedar Lake, if related, is probably a diversion. The information that I give you is a real conversation killer because I never hear back from anybody but one Tnet poster and he's the guy who gave me the heads up about the group that sets these sites up. The group isn't KGC although some KGC might have been members. They use great circle mapping to connect geographical points that are similar in name. I'll explain how they did it in your area, but you have to be able to plot points on Google Earth.
They use code names and the code name in your area is Wildcat. You might notice that there is a place named Wildcat Bluff about 23 miles SE of Makanda. This Wildcat Bluff has a connection to two other Wildcat Bluffs, one in Iowa and one in Arkansas. The great circle distance between the Illinois Wildcat Bluff and the one in Iowa is 367 miles, Illinois to Arkansas is 355 miles. You can see there is only a difference of 12 miles, too close to be coincidental. The great circle distance between the Iowa Wildcat Bluff and the one in Arkansas is 565 miles. These distances form a triangle with two short sides of 367 miles and 355 miles and a long side of 565 miles. This is a total distance of 1287 miles. I remember you said that you had 13 carved on some of the trees. I believe this number identifies the people who set up the site, kind of like a signature. You will notice that the total miles of the triangle, 1287 miles, is 13 miles short of 1300 miles. Could just be a coincidence, or not. Now for the angles of the triangle, they are 37 degrees in Iowa, 39 degrees in Arkansas and 103 degrees in Illinois, totaling 179 degrees, a little off but you can check it on Google Earth.
Ok, you have three geographical locations connected by name and math and none of them are even close to each other. I don't believe this is coincidence. Are these sites set up to hide treasure? I don't know. I know there is a treasure legend associated with the Arkansas site but I don't know if anything has been found. I came across an article that said the Masons would set up fake "treasure sites", complete with clues and legend, just to get a good laugh as their neighbors tore up the countryside looking for valuables. Who knows. I consider these sites an historical curiosity.
I'm always surprised that this mapping information doesn't generate any interest. Sdcfia wrote about this type of mapping in his book New Mexico Confidential: 30 Years of Snooping in Obscure Places. Some of these mapping points are close to areas associated with treasure legends. In fact, treasure legend terrain features are sometime a part of the mapping.
Anyway, here is more information about the Wildcat Bluff triangle. A few miles from Wildcat Bluff, Iowa is a town named Center Point. About nine miles from Wildcat Bluff, Ark., is a town named Center Point. I couldn't find any evidence of a town named Center Point near Wildcat Bluff, Ill., but here is where Google Earth comes in real handy. If you map a line from Wildcat Bluff, Ill. to the midpoint of the line that connects Wildcat Bluff, Iowa to Wildcat Bluff, Ark., that line passes by two peaks in eastern Missouri named Wildcat Mountain. These two mountains are about 35 miles apart on a NE to SW line. If you run a line from the NE Wildcat Mt. to the SW Wildcat Mt. and extend that line across Texas, you will pass right through a town named Center Point. So, we have three Wildcat Buffs, with two close to towns named Center Point and one associated with a town named Center Point, by code. Here are a couple of interesting facts about Center Point, Texas. Turtleisgold, you mentioned a pyramid/eye carving at Giant City. The latitude of Center Point, Texas is 29 dgrees 57' 08". The latitude of the Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt is 29 degrees 58' 34". Also, just north of St. Augustine, Florida, is the same latitude as Center Point, Texas, 29 degrees 57' 08". The distance from Center Point, Texas to St. Augustine, Florida is 1062 miles. The distance from Center Point, Texas to the southwestern most point in the United States is 1083 miles. So Center Point is pretty much the center point of the southern United States.
In the area about 25 miles NW of Wildcat Bluff, Arkansas, the treasure hunter, Bob Brewer, recovered two or three treasure caches that he documented in his book Rebel Gold. His treasure trails also included carvings on trees.
Old Tree Carvings Markers Codes KGC
I've been sitting on all these old photos for far too long. Pictures taken at least 12 years ago on an old crappy Motorola Razor flip phone. Trees at the cache site have long been destroyed from a tornado that came through. I might have the only photographic evidence that these markers ever...
- #245
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Here is some more great circle mapping from my thread "Something New About the LUE". Post #31 is a good one.
www.treasurenet.com
Something New About the LUE
Randy Bradford said I could post this info on his Treasure Mountain thread, but I decided to start a new one. I'm not going to go into a lot of detail unless somebody asks and then I'll be happy to. Here's the LUE map that I'll use. Here's an excerpt that I found about Lafayette C. Baker, a...
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FYI - the The Santa Ynez Mountain Range in Santa Barbara County, California also run East/West.
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