I can agree with this. I did not buy the F75 because of the price. I do consider the Pro and Gold will hunt. Im not understanding the Bottle Cap problem, but know there is a learning curve with each new spot. The new coil sounds hot and think that is a good thing. I don't look at the negatives, only what the machine can do. If I had a waterproof machine, I would find water just to put it in. I only see a few dedicated guys using it that way, and enjoy their post. Due to certain attitudes, I will occasionally make note of what I believe to be bad manners. What is really sad is the machine could be made better, and that is not happening. So we have to adjust ourselves instead to make up for our machines short comings. I do it too, if I want to be better at what I do. As for a machine that does the same at a good price, I hear the Chinese knock offs are doing really well right now as Garret cant fill the orders. I really hope my suggestion to turn the power down and adjust the disc settings help a few on here. You will clean up if you just hunt the surface till you get better at settings with the machine. Its about confidence, and if you don't trust your machine you wont use it. Garret did it right, he put some very good tech at a affordable price. Nothing wrong with that. But I believe there has been some bad info put out there. Everyone wants the finds they see on here, but throwing money at new stuff isn't going to replace going through a few sets of battery's. Get out there and hunt, dig it all. Doesn't matter what detector I own, it only matters how you are doing with yours. One of you At owners will have to let me play with your detector someday so I can fill in all the requirements to some folks belief the AT has magical quality's and isn't like other VLF property's. I thing the magic is in the operators ability, the machine is only good as you.