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"In essence"...good phrase here; however, you do not know that what's on the "launching pad," with me, is fruitless. You're speaking before you know...right? Be fair.
We're getting somewhere now.
May we wait just a little longer.
The Romancing Of The Beale Papers
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Good.
"In essence"...good phrase here; however, you do not know that what's on the "launching pad," with me, is fruitless. You're speaking before you know...right? Be fair.
We're getting somewhere now.
May we wait just a little longer.
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Being fair, you have been saying this same old line for at 7 years, first on another site, and then on here.
A little longer has already been a long time to wait for what seems to be another version of the Beale story is an allegory.
That , being a fair evaluation based on your previous presentations...right?
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Actually, over the years you've made it pretty clear what's on your launching pad and where you have it aimed. Forget about what you have yet to put out here, go back and research all of those contrary facts and bits of information to what you have already put out there. This is the type of thing I was referring to when I referenced those "Already dead in the water" certain solutions, nobody self-checking that opposing and contrary information to what they propose. Anyone can create seemingly connections to most any avenue they want, that's pretty easy if one is so willing, but you just can't create those missing direct connections no matter how hard you try. They're either there or they aren't.
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Look, fellas, let's be realistic here. If any of us had that directly connecting evidence then we could put it out here a single sentence, a single link or picture, whatever. When folks start launching into long and detailed explanations trying to establish those simple connections then they clearly don't have them.
"The same old line for seven years"...yes, ...unable to be validated. ECS...there's something more! More ...than the "seven year old" research. I know this seems like a lengthy tease, but there is reason for the delay. Really, why do you think I am delaying the final word? And please don't say that same old refrain that there is nothing to reveal or that I'm a "faker". The very hint of early revelation of concrete fact would be detrimental to the cause. And, it is "fair" to feel the way you do. I mean, just how long can you dangle a sucker in front of a child before they turn and lose interest? We're adults though. I'm not a "faker"...I have something to reveal...it must be the right time to reveal it. And, Bigscoop...have ye so little faith that the real deal is now out there upon us?
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I think it's appropriate that you choose the word, faith. Yet if faith was all that was required then this mystery would have already been solved a thousand times over by the faithful. It's this blind faith that you speak of that has caused these folks to completely disregard all of the contrary information and facts so that their "certain solves" can even exist in their own minds. This is how being right and being correct can become two entirely different realities.
(i.e., some strive to be right, others strive to be correct.)
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I think it's appropriate that you choose the word, faith. Yet if faith was all that was required then this mystery would have already been solved a thousand times over by the faithful. It's this blind faith that you speak of that has caused these folks to completely disregard all of the contrary information and facts so that their "certain solves" can even exist in their own minds. This is how being right and being correct can become two entirely different realities.
"Blind faith"...hmmm....yeah, true understanding. My soon to come revelation is not without true understanding. Bigscoop, do you think "the real deal is now out there upon us?".........
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Everything you posted? That is a very strong statement.
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I think one can talk himself into believing most anything is the "real deal" in regards to the Beale papers, this simply due to the fact that there is no conclusive evidence in support of the tale to prevent such wide-roaming meanderings. It's this same complete lack of factual restriction that has allowed all of the current and past certain claims, this same complete lack of restriction allowing for the wide range of subject matter incorporated into the those solves. The tale can become anything anyone desires it to believe, the real danger coming when folks actually start to believe in their own creations. The "provenance thread" has been up for quite some time now and I see you've still not posted said provenance. It's a simple thing, really, you either have it or you don't, no long detailed explanations required.
I have "conclusive evidence"...what have I advised concerning this, however? Do you remember? What's going on here is that I cannot talk about it.....yet. I realize this makes you irritated, but there's reason for it. By telling me all the time about "faith" "provenance" and the like, will not accelerate the revelation. You must wait...I will prepare all though and this is what I'm doing.....see?
I have "conclusive evidence"...what have I advised concerning this, however? Do you remember? What's going on here is that I cannot talk about it.....yet. I realize this makes you irritated, but there's reason for it. By telling me all the time about "faith" "provenance" and the like, will not accelerate the revelation. You must wait...I will prepare all though and this is what I'm doing.....see?
Do you really think I would have spent all this time and writing if I was just a "faker"?
Work on this....What do James B. Ward and Legrand have in common?
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I'll say it yet again, "It's really quite simple, no need for long detailed explanations, just a simple document form that establishes some type of direct connection." I don't care if the "certain claimant" was Thomas J. Beale's twin brother, without said simple conclusive proof everything else means nothing. The conclusive proof is simple and easy to present all on it's own merits without all of the other smoke and chapters. The chapters come, "after the fact." No need for them with something so self-explanatory.
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Does the answer involve the Piggly Wiggly grocery store?
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With all these different "solves" presented, be it the ciphers or the real story behind the pamphlet's Beale perilous adventure/ treasure tale, how will it be determined which one is correct and which are not, or if none of the above because it was just a story sprung from of the mind of this ever mysterious "unknown author"?
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I have no doubt that I'm going to see what you want people to see and that you personally believe that it holds some connection of some type to the narration. Question is, will the big reveal be short a simple or long and filled with details and explanation as to how it supposedly connects? I'm betting the later, for sure.
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Is that same as "having the research and having the documents" mentioned by another on these threads?
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Provenance must be made of "sterner stuff".
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