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[releventchair]

Good morning everyone

Winds died down yesterday and last night, new fires still started and wind coming back today. Not good

Mornin Evan!

 

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[pepperj]

Don't get me wrong I feel for the lost souls .

'Humans mostly cause the problem of being in the path of fires. Fires will start one way or another eventually.. The greater delay the greater the fire has fuel at times.
Consider historic controlled burns by natives. Some reported to have set fire to pine type trees in celebration type events like our fireworks even.


Same winds throughout history during season.
Same drying fuel throughout history.

Build homes in fuel rich environs in wind funnels in already high wind areas.
Lets talk about roofing materials. Siding.
Water storage and 3 inch pumps to apply water with. Any homes have swimming pools collecting ash? Were they discharged prior?

Nope. We'll pile up fuel near larger flammable materials in a historic drying and high wind region.
Wanna talk combustibility before or after annual fire season?

Why would anyone build using adobe brick and clay roof tiles?
Or keep brush and other scrub at bay instead of up tight to homes?

Fire can rejuvenate a habitat. Or destroy it.
Nonportable housing in a fire rich habitat is a very bad thing. History shows that far more than my opinion.

How many homes have been ruined post fires elsewhere when mudslides result?
And why are homes sitting atop unstable terrain in such regions in the first place?

Flooding on a river delta where poorer folks have scratched out a living for eons?? Maybe not a good place to build much of a structure you can't afford to lose though. History and flooding won't stop because you are in the way..

Early homes often appear to have been built on higher ground with a view.
Around my area that involves sun in winter.

Not flood plains. Not once in a hundred years flood area , (still below the historic watermark of a prior big flood.)
The trick is to avoid historic hazards. Or else built to sacrifice what nature isn't going to skirt.

California didn't just encounter fires.
The hundreds of millions spent on fires suggests it is not a rare condition.
Historic dwellings hint of either portability , hard to burn materials, or sacrificial dwellings if need be.
But we're better than nature when in comes to living in fire prone areas because we have money to fight it AFTER a fire is doing what fire does?
Ya , look to humans for the biggest problem with fires.

Think about this.

Fires burn at different rates.

Here in this fire where my father was moved to the backside of the fire.
The fire was moving @ a rate of 45 MPH.

Fire K30285 | Flight from the Flames

Flight from the Flames is a photographic account of the Silver Creek Fire of 1998. Called Fire K30285 by the B.C. Wildfire Service, it started with a small […]

www.communitystories.ca

It jumped the valley, and went up the side of the mountain in 20 minutes.

The cartoon was really realistic.

The conditions were not great for the flying bombers.

Now a little back story.

They evacuated my father to the backside of the fire.
It took days for the family to find him actually.
The brother-in-law picked him up and returned him home again.
In speaking with my father about this fire, and the kidnapping, he said this:

"Oh Jim they took me, and placed me with this Bible thumping family.
Oh I was so grateful when the (B-law) came to rescue me from them.

I still don't know what I did to deserve that kind of treatment." 🤣

 

[robertk]

I’m here !!!
Y’all didn’t even miss me did you?

Oh we had a search party gearing up, but then someone said to be sure to bring the rum, and it just kinda went downhill from there.

 

[ARC]

Oh we had a search party gearing up, but then someone said to be sure to bring the rum, and it just kinda went downhill from there.

Wait.... i am confused............
Was it because someone said to bring the rum... that you had to search for it...
OR....
Were you gearing up and realized you could not find the rum and then had to send a search party out for said rum ? ? ?

:P

 

[ARC]

Wait.... i am confused............
Was it because someone said to bring the rum... that you had to search for it...
OR....
Were you gearing up and realized you could not find the rum and then had to send a search party out for said rum ? ? ?

:P

OR... had you already organized a Rum search party and realized there was no rum for the rum search party ?

OR.....

Was there a party where you hide rum and then search for it ? ? ?

Regardless.... count me in... i volunteer !

 

[releventchair]

Fires burn at different rates.

Here in this fire where my father was moved to the backside of the fire.
The fire was moving @ a rate of 45 MPH.

Fire K30285 | Flight from the Flames

Flight from the Flames is a photographic account of the Silver Creek Fire of 1998. Called Fire K30285 by the B.C. Wildfire Service, it started with a small […]

www.communitystories.ca

It jumped the valley, and went up the side of the mountain in 20 minutes.

The cartoon was really realistic.

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The conditions were not great for the flying bombers.

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Now a little back story.

They evacuated my father to the backside of the fire.
It took days for the family to find him actually.
The brother-in-law picked him up and returned him home again.
In speaking with my father about this fire, and the kidnapping, he said this:

"Oh Jim they took me, and placed me with this Bible thumping family.
Oh I was so grateful when the (B-law) came to rescue me from them.

I still don't know what I did to deserve that kind of treatment." 🤣

A neighbor asked why the barn is so far from the house.
I suggested looking at the more remote far North having buildings well separated. But at least A secondary shelter distant from the main.
You lose the only one to a fire where options for shelter are time consuming to construct...
You're in a pinch.

A Great grandfather lost home and store to fire.
A Grand father (Moms Dad ) lost home to fire.

First alleged to be lightning related. Second the wood stove.
The second 's site I was taken to as a youth and wish I could find again.
Nothing but forest back then.
Including a site alleged to be from another relatives "store" in the nowheres woods ,that ...burned.

 

[releventchair]

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[GirlWithWolf]

Good morning all. Eleven degrees this morning, which I suppose is an improvement over the seven it has been the last couple of mornings. The ice isn't melting, but does seem to be evaporating directly. The roads are clear, so that's a plus.

Here's a few shots of the icy weather. It's really hard to catch how this looks in a photo. In person, it looks like everything is made of glass and lit up like Christmas trees. I'm guessing the phone mutes some of that lightness thinking it's an overexposure or something. Anyway, there's a view down the driveway, a look across the little pond, and a look at one of the cedar trees. It really is quite beautiful in person -- just really, really cold.

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Those are gorgeous pictures, I especially like the first one down the driveway. We had what I’m sure these Texans will refer to as the blizzard of 2025. 🥶 It snowed well over half and inch and got down to 33 at one point. 🙄 Schools and businesses closed and can’t even get a pizza delivered. Luckily one highly motivated Dominos dude made it in to prevent a Donner redo but I had to walk to go pick it up.

 

[Chilli]

Good morning everyone. 43 outside right now. Very cold for Florida. The cats won't go outside. View attachment 2187922

That dew claws in a scary position! 🫤

 

[releventchair]

Those are gorgeous pictures, I especially like the first one down the driveway. We had what I’m sure these Texans will refer to as the blizzard of 2025. 🥶 It snowed well over half and inch and got down to 33 at one point. 🙄 Schools and businesses closed and can’t even get a pizza delivered. Luckily one highly motivated Dominos dude made it in to prevent a Donner redo but I had to walk to go pick it up.

 

[releventchair]

 

[robertk]

We had what I’m sure these Texans will refer to as the blizzard of 2025. 🥶 It snowed well over half and inch and got down to 33 at one point. 🙄 Schools and businesses closed and can’t even get a pizza delivered.

Oh I know it -- anyplace south of the Mason-Dixon Line, every little snowflake is like the sky is falling.

 

[Chilli]

Don't get me wrong I feel for the lost souls .

'Humans mostly cause the problem of being in the path of fires. Fires will start one way or another eventually.. The greater delay the greater the fire has fuel at times.
Consider historic controlled burns by natives. Some reported to have set fire to pine type trees in celebration type events like our fireworks even.


Same winds throughout history during season.
Same drying fuel throughout history.

Build homes in fuel rich environs in wind funnels in already high wind areas.
Lets talk about roofing materials. Siding.
Water storage and 3 inch pumps to apply water with. Any homes have swimming pools collecting ash? Were they discharged prior?

Nope. We'll pile up fuel near larger flammable materials in a historic drying and high wind region.
Wanna talk combustibility before or after annual fire season?

Why would anyone build using adobe brick and clay roof tiles?
Or keep brush and other scrub at bay instead of up tight to homes?

Fire can rejuvenate a habitat. Or destroy it.
Nonportable housing in a fire rich habitat is a very bad thing. History shows that far more than my opinion.

How many homes have been ruined post fires elsewhere when mudslides result?
And why are homes sitting atop unstable terrain in such regions in the first place?

Flooding on a river delta where poorer folks have scratched out a living for eons?? Maybe not a good place to build much of a structure you can't afford to lose though. History and flooding won't stop because you are in the way..

Early homes often appear to have been built on higher ground with a view.
Around my area that involves sun in winter.

Not flood plains. Not once in a hundred years flood area , (still below the historic watermark of a prior big flood.)
The trick is to avoid historic hazards. Or else built to sacrifice what nature isn't going to skirt.

California didn't just encounter fires.
The hundreds of millions spent on fires suggests it is not a rare condition.
Historic dwellings hint of either portability , hard to burn materials, or sacrificial dwellings if need be.
But we're better than nature when in comes to living in fire prone areas because we have money to fight it AFTER a fire is doing what fire does?
Ya , look to humans for the biggest problem with fires.

Think about this.

Iv always thought the same here. We get bad floods across the country each yr. All built on historic flood plains and right next to rivers on low ground. A guy warned the govt against building Brisbane where it is before they did. And yr after yr they get flooded. Same as other places. They are considering doing a buy back of places in a few areas and relocating to higher ground, not Brisbane but a couple of smaller towns that get flooded yr after yr. Some are now uninsurable, the companies after paying the same people out several times in the last few decades said this is the last one. Move or dont expect to be insured ever again. Similar with fires. They build amongst dense eucalyptus forests which just ignite in the canopy like fireworks in the high heat, as kids we used to use branches like sparklers when we had camp fires waving them around watching the leaves pop and sparkle from the oil igniting.
Yet they build amongst them with huge trees just several metres from their homes. Trees notorious for losing huge limbs in storms that destroy houses and cars and kill people. Every year we see it happening somewhere. The greenies and green govt wont let them clear them for houses or the power lines so after storms or fires the power grid in the areas get destroyed from trees right next to the poles and areas go with no power for weeks.
All avoidable.
Where we lived for ages before covid was Maryborough Vic. That was built correctly after advice in the early 1900s. Not far from Maryborough just 5 minute drive is Carisbrook which is built on the flats near deep creek. A notorious flooder. Back then it was planned for Maryborough to be established there, at the time there were 2 goldfields small settlements one where Carisbrook is and the other where the now Maryborough is, they were warned and listened and instead built up over a large rise away from it.
Carisbrook stayed where it was foolishly and every ten to twelve yrs like clockwork floods. You wouldn't buy a house there.

 

[Chilli]

Good morning everyone

Winds died down yesterday and last night, new fires still started and wind coming back today. Not good

Stay safe. 👍

 

[newnan man]

Same here in Florida. Everyone wants to live near the ocean. Hurricanes wipe them out, they rebuild. I'm one of the dummies.

 

[releventchair]

Iv always thought the same here. We get bad floods across the country each yr. All built on historic flood plains and right next to rivers on low ground. A guy warned the govt against building Brisbane where it is before they did. And yr after yr they get flooded. Same as other places. They are considering doing a buy back of places in a few areas and relocating to higher ground, not Brisbane but a couple of smaller towns that get flooded yr after yr. Some are now uninsurable, the companies after paying the same people out several times in the last few decades said this is the last one. Move or dont expect to be insured ever again. Similar with fires. They build amongst dense eucalyptus forests which just ignite in the canopy like fireworks in the high heat, as kids we used to use branches like sparklers when we had camp fires waving them around watching the leaves pop and sparkle from the oil igniting.
Yet they build amongst them with huge trees just several metres from their homes. Trees notorious for losing huge limbs in storms that destroy houses and cars and kill people. Every year we see it happening somewhere. The greenies and green govt wont let them clear them for houses or the power lines so after storms or fires the power grid in the areas get destroyed from trees right next to the poles and areas go with no power for weeks.
All avoidable.
Where we lived for ages before covid was Maryborough Vic. That was built correctly after advice in the early 1900s. Not far from Maryborough just 5 minute drive is Carisbrook which is built on the flats near deep creek. A notorious flooder. Back then it was planned for Maryborough to be established there, at the time there were 2 goldfields small settlements one where Carisbrook is and the other where the now Maryborough is, they were warned and listened and instead built up over a large rise away from it.
Carisbrook stayed where it was foolishly and every ten to twelve yrs like clockwork floods. You wouldn't buy a house there.

Again I feel for those lost..

Insurance is for adfter. However some speculatorsthat were covered on overvauled policies won.
Others...Not so much.

We learn from the past. Well we should learn.

Granite burns under the right conditions.
Granite buildings burn? Yes..
Who would have thought.

If granite burns , lets plan on most anything burning under the right conditions.
Then act like we need to counter the threat of fire with voids in fuel supplies to feed it.

Hot ash flys. Yes it does. Fight that potential first. Then build as if approaching fire closer than the already problematic hot ash. Heat. Fumes/gasses. Flame.

Great Fire Devastates Boston

On this day in 1872, a monstrous fire nearly destroyed Boston's business district, ravaging the city from the Common to the waterfront. Beginning in a dry goods store, the blaze burned for 15 hours with a heat so intense that it created its own roaring wind. Flames spread relentlessly from one...

www.massmoments.org

 

[ARC]

Hmmm..... Speaking of fires... I have heard Rum is flammable...

So... Note to self........ never drink rum in the oven or fireplace.

 

[Oregon Viking]

From Cape Sebastian.

 

[Oregon Viking]

Another contender.
XR 650 L. 5,200 miles. Street ridden only, 2005

 

[ARC]

Another contender.
XR 650 L. 5,200 miles. Street ridden only, 2005
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Couldnt pay me to ride a motorcycle here.