The lost Treasure of Napoleon Bonaparte

I think from a research standpoint, the most interesting acquaintances and associations are the ones you never expected and never saw coming. I can't tell you the number of times I've sat back and said, "Well, would have never suspected that." And "poof"...just like that something new is learned and the research broadened. Even when we think we know, it's amazing how much we don't know and so we keep looking.
 

bigscoop said:
I think from a research standpoint, the most interesting acquaintances and associations are the ones you never expected and never saw coming. I can't tell you the number of times I've sat back and said, "Well, would have never suspected that." And "poof"...just like that something new is learned and the research broadened. Even when we think we know, it's amazing how much we don't know and so we keep looking.
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Some times research into treasure legends have more twists and turns than any Hollywood movie.

Crow
 

Crow,,,True TH is full of intrigues and politics of its own...by the way I presume you were busy out there hosting uncle Sam and co. and uncle Put 8-)

tintin treasure
 

Yeah just the usual crap just wrapped up in a different package. The real deals have been made months earlier this official G20 stunt is only publicity exercise. The deals have been made via the public servants months ago where they were flown out to several locations in Australia to hammer out the details. The main objective is to share tax information as 350 of largest multinational companies have been exploiting the taxation system. the main objectives of the summit were to "provide strategic priority for growth, financial re balancing and emerging economies, investment and infrastructure, and employment and labor mobility.

Crow
 

Gee Senor Crow, your summary makes it almost sound like the governments care about the people and want to help……..about opposite of what they are doing
 

It sounds good but the devil is in the detail... point in question mobility of employment and labor????

Does that mean companies can directly recruit staff from 3rd world countries by passing local labor laws of wages and conditions?

Crow
 

New methods of electric induction may be reasonable enough to process aluminum different locations beyond hitting a third world country and developing a resource to generate vast sums of electricity for the sponsors benefit. Hopefully those sites created to generate electricity are maintained for the local populace.
Meanwhile ,profits reign. That's the goal for any business. Hypocrisy not likely to stop attempts a greater profit.
Just how it is.Who wants to fail at pleasing stockholders and if it is not worth millions why get involved?


http://www.internationalrivers.org/files/attached-files/aluminum_in_africa_case_study_july1107.doc
 

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Here in oil rich Ecuador, they are in the process of building enough hydroelectric plants to power much of the country; and have created gov incentives for the people to purchase new electric induction cook stoves (changing over from propane)…….
And the question of first world and third world countries seems very much to be changing now……it would seem in not too many years the roles of first and third world countries may be reversed for many……..without a manufacturing base, what hope does a country have (think USSA)…..
Vaya con Dios mis amigos.
 

Any one interested you might like the following. Aberdare newspaper article dated 28th July 1888. It tells the following story.

HIDDEN TREASURE. Who would have dreamed that a huge chest containing nearly a million of francs in gold and silver coinage could have been peacefully reposing for the last 78 years a foot or two underground, within a stone's-throw of an important highway, without any- one having the good luck to spot" it! There will be some gnashing of teeth among the inhabitants in the neighbourhood of Bielostock, in the Grodno district, in the Empire of All the Russias, if it be demonstrated by ocular testimony that this chest with its treasure has escaped their notice and that of their fathers and grandfathers before them.

At any rate, the Czar's Minister of the Interior has just despatched a special committee to dig up the chest and its precious contents at the exact point indicated. If the treasure is really found it will be' a very romantic affair. It is a relic of the Retreat of Napoleon's Grande Army." This research is due to the initiative of a Frenchman, M. Villebaude Jonnich, who has been ransacking some manuscripts left by his grandfather, one of the stoutest troopers in the Emperor's host. The old gentleman related that he was with a detachment acting as escort to this chest, which contained the sum of £ 34,000 sterling, when the convoy was pursued by a strong force of Cossacks. Seeing that escape was impossible, the party hastily buried the chest close to the Bielostock- road, along which it was riding, and soon afterwards every man was cut to pieces with the exception of Jonnich, who lived to tell the tale in some memoirs penned for the benefit of his relatives.

It is to be feared that the family did not take much interest in the journal, or possibly it may not have been of a very energetic turn of mind. Be this as it may, it has been left to a grandson, M. Villebaude Jonnich, after a lapse of 76 years, to undertake a hunt after the treasure, the precise whereabouts of which is carefully and specially indicated by his glorious but defunct ancestor. He has applied to the Russian Minister of the Interior, who, as I have already stated, has taken the matter up. If the chest be really found, M. Villebaude Jonnich will, according to Russian law, be entitled as informer to a third of the booty, or JE 10,000. Persons blessed with grandfathers who beheld the Kremlin in flames will then be searching among old scrap- books and moldy papers for possible hints as to the existence of other chests in the highways and byeways of the Czar's European dominions.

Question remains did he every recover it? No metal detectors back in 1888. and of course a lot of history has passed since then Perhaps it still lies buried out there?

Amy
 

welcom bk Amy Mam. ( a respectable married woman) even if it is to a broken down has been, football player -- nah, I am not jealous it's just that ------- well you know, I think.,:dontknow:

How has the unholy trio been behaving Amy ?
 

Hello Don Jose

As you probably might know perhaps you could tell me???

They are elusive at the best of times. Just when you think you get a handle on what you think they are up too, you find yourself clutching at thin air....

Amy
 

Corporate Investigations said:
Any one interested you might like the following. Aberdare newspaper article dated 28th July 1888. It tells the following story.

HIDDEN TREASURE. Who would have dreamed that a huge chest containing nearly a million of francs in gold and silver coinage could have been peacefully reposing for the last 78 years a foot or two underground, within a stone's-throw of an important highway, without any- one having the good luck to spot" it! There will be some gnashing of teeth among the inhabitants in the neighbourhood of Bielostock, in the Grodno district, in the Empire of All the Russias, if it be demonstrated by ocular testimony that this chest with its treasure has escaped their notice and that of their fathers and grandfathers before them.

At any rate, the Czar's Minister of the Interior has just despatched a special committee to dig up the chest and its precious contents at the exact point indicated. If the treasure is really found it will be' a very romantic affair. It is a relic of the Retreat of Napoleon's Grande Army." This research is due to the initiative of a Frenchman, M. Villebaude Jonnich, who has been ransacking some manuscripts left by his grandfather, one of the stoutest troopers in the Emperor's host. The old gentleman related that he was with a detachment acting as escort to this chest, which contained the sum of £ 34,000 sterling, when the convoy was pursued by a strong force of Cossacks. Seeing that escape was impossible, the party hastily buried the chest close to the Bielostock- road, along which it was riding, and soon afterwards every man was cut to pieces with the exception of Jonnich, who lived to tell the tale in some memoirs penned for the benefit of his relatives.

It is to be feared that the family did not take much interest in the journal, or possibly it may not have been of a very energetic turn of mind. Be this as it may, it has been left to a grandson, M. Villebaude Jonnich, after a lapse of 76 years, to undertake a hunt after the treasure, the precise whereabouts of which is carefully and specially indicated by his glorious but defunct ancestor. He has applied to the Russian Minister of the Interior, who, as I have already stated, has taken the matter up. If the chest be really found, M. Villebaude Jonnich will, according to Russian law, be entitled as informer to a third of the booty, or JE 10,000. Persons blessed with grandfathers who beheld the Kremlin in flames will then be searching among old scrap- books and moldy papers for possible hints as to the existence of other chests in the highways and byeways of the Czar's European dominions.

Question remains did he every recover it? No metal detectors back in 1888. and of course a lot of history has passed since then Perhaps it still lies buried out there?

Amy
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thanks Amy for the nice old yarn,,,Coincidentally in the past month I have been searching old newspapers on buried ''military chest" in war times of Europe. There are stories here and there but not of any lead as many have been found ...For instance not leaving the Napoleaon context here is one yarn,,,,when the French Army under General Soult retreated hastily from the advancing Duke of Wellington in Porto Portugal,they had to abandon heavy stuff as they moved to the valongo mountains...They had to decide what to do with the heavy military Chest containing 50 thousand Portuguese silver coins ....many decades later one British traveller in Portugal wrote that people in Porto believed in a legend that the chest was buried in the retreat route...however closer examination of other accounts of the war tell a different story..General Soult offered his soldeirs to take the silver and to burn the ammunitions ..but alas the hasty soldiers did not have time for it (maybe some few took some)...but the history shows the heavy military chest along with the ammunition powder were set on fire as they left(some locals after that used to find some few coins lying around in the inferno area) ...but people in Porto for decades mistakenly believed it to be buried ...anyway military treasure chests i think are one frontier to investigate especially from the Napolenic wars, Franco Prussian wars etc as there are similar stories of military chests from retreating armies.... Anyway your yarn is worth looking into.

TT
 

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Corporate Investigations said:
Hello Don Jose

As you probably might know perhaps you could tell me???

They are elusive at the best of times. Just when you think you get a handle on what you think they are up too, you find yourself clutching at thin air....

Amy
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Welcome back Amy. Thank you for the fun post!
Hope all is well.

All the best-
JA
 

tintin_treasure said:
thanks Amy for the nice old yarn,,,Coincidentally in the past month I have been searching old newspapers on buried ''military chest" in war times of Europe. There are stories here and there but not of any lead as many have been found ...For instance not leaving the Napoleaon context here is one yarn,,,,when the French Army under General Soult retreated hastily from the advancing Duke of Wellington in Porto Portugal,they had to abandon heavy stuff as they moved to the valongo mountains...They had to decide what to do with the heavy military Chest containing 50 thousand Portuguese silver coins ....many decades later one British traveller in Portugal wrote that people in Porto believed in a legend that the chest was buried in the retreat route...however closer examination of other accounts of the war tell a different story..General Soult offered his soldeirs to take the silver and to burn the ammunitions ..but alas the hasty soldiers did not have time for it (maybe some few took some)...but the history shows the heavy military chest along with the ammunition powder were set on fire as they left(some locals after that used to find some few coins lying around in the inferno area) ...but people in Porto for decades mistakenly believed it to be buried ...anyway military treasure chests i think are one frontier to investigate especially from the Napolenic wars, Franco Prussian wars etc as there are similar stories of military chests from retreating armies.... Anyway your yarn is worth looking into.

TT
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Hardluck had files on treasure left from the Napoleonic wars in Portugal or Spain I cannot remember as he has many thousand stories and documents. The trouble is urban development has built up over these burial sites from 19th century. Yet history does show treasure is some times found from the spoils of conflict.

Amy
 

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