The Hart's Person to Person Visit With J.B. Ward Confirmation The Beale Papers True

[bigscoop]

You do realize that you're an active and frequent supporter that the tale isn't true..... Every time you change a detail in the tale you're establishing that, "the tale isn't true." There's no getting around this, it is fact. So jointly, you fellas have determined that a great deal of the tale isn't true. Again, this is fact, and in your own words.

 

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[Oddjob]

You do realize that you're an active and frequent supporter that the tale isn't true..... Every time you change a detail in the tale you're establishing that, "the tale isn't true." There's no getting around this, it is fact. So jointly, you fellas have determined that a great deal of the tale isn't true. Again, this is fact, and in your own words.

where do you find the energy.

 

[bigscoop]

I love reading fiction.... There is no limit to human imagination......

 

[Rebel - KGC]

where do you find the energy.

BEE ALE!

 

[Five]

No proof is needed of a fictional story, it verifies itself when no proof can be found to verify the story.

A fictional novel will say it is fiction! Beale Papers do no say it is fiction! Just because you guys are having a problem with finding information supporting the documents you are researching, does not make a fictional document out of it. You just need to read a few books on how to do research for beginners.

 

[Five]

You do realize that you're an active and frequent supporter that the tale isn't true..... Every time you change a detail in the tale you're establishing that, "the tale isn't true." There's no getting around this, it is fact. So jointly, you fellas have determined that a great deal of the tale isn't true. Again, this is fact, and in your own words.

The information from Morriss statement would have a time stamp of 1822 other than opening the box. All conclusive information about the box and it's content are documented in what the author calls a "history of event's". I have put up with your obsessed behavior of arguing everything someone post in information about the pamphlet for far too long. You guys tendency to abuse others on these threads is sic and perverted!

 

[franklin]

I fictional novel will say it is fiction! Beale Papers do no say it is fiction! Just because you guys are having a problem with finding information supporting the documents you are researching, does not make a fictional document out of it. You just need to read a few books on how to do research for beginners.

Once you get past the research for beginners come back and have a constructive conversation?

 

[bigscoop]

The information from Morriss statement would have a time stamp of 1822 other than opening the box. All conclusive information about the box and it's content are documented in what the author calls a "history of event's". I have put up with your obsessed behavior of arguing everything someone post in information about the pamphlet for far too long. You guys tendency to abuse others on these threads is sic and perverted!

Five, look, we have all been where you're presently at, this is why we understand that "thousands" (if not many more) of fictional dime novels, articles, etc., have been written without any declaration that they are fiction. You merely need research this fact. Again "author's employ all manner of devices when writing their tales." This is why, to date, in all of your combined efforts and within all of the efforts of others that no single shred of supporting fact regarding the narration's TJB, the party, the grand adventure, the alleged letters, etc., has ever been found. This is why those "optional truths" you pointed out must be manufactured in order to host a claim of solution and solve, as false as they most certainly have to be in the absence of actual facts.

Now you can mad at folks for continuing to turn off the lights but when you continue to try to step into that same light in complete denial of the truth and bearing false witness "then these experienced and educated folks are going to keep turning off the lights." And so alone in the dark you will stand. That's your choice, my young and inexperienced friend. "Bring facts and truth and they will listen."

 

[releventchair]

I fictional novel will say it is fiction! Beale Papers do no say it is fiction! Just because you guys are having a problem with finding information supporting the documents you are researching, does not make a fictional document out of it. You just need to read a few books on how to do research for beginners.

Are you declaring yourself fictional novel? Egads...
What does fiction or nonfiction have to do with researching Beale papers?
Are you looking for them in a school library and wanting to know where they are categorized in an index? Or section?

[Beale papers do no say it is fiction!]
Wow. That really clears everything up about there being a dire lack of proof........

 

[bigscoop]

Are you declaring yourself fictional novel? Egads...
What does fiction or nonfiction have to do with researching Beale papers?
Are you looking for them in a school library and wanting to know where they are categorized in an index? Or section?

[Beale papers do no say it is fiction!]
Wow. That really clears everything up about there being a dire lack of proof........

I have "several" books in my collection that are filled with nothing but treasure tales, all of these books being "authentic" works of the various authors, all of the tales being narrated in "second hand" voice, these tales being filled with all manner of various details. NOWHERE is it declared if these books and their stories are present as fiction or true narratives, yet it goes without saying that the vast majority of these accumulated tales are purely fictional in nature, many pf these tales being passed down from one generation to the next and dating back several hundred years. There's even the repeated tale in these books about a certain French party........(and "Ho" is even used in one of them.)

 

[Five]

I have "several" books in my collection that are filled with nothing but treasure tales, all of these books being "authentic" works of the various authors, all of the tales being narrated in "second hand" voice, these tales being filled with all manner of various details. NOWHERE is it declared if these books and their stories are present as fiction or true narratives, yet it goes without saying that the vast majority of these accumulated tales are purely fictional in nature, many pf these tales being passed down from one generation to the next and dating back several hundred years. There's even the repeated tale in these books about a certain French party........(and "Ho" is even used in one of them.)

Like Forrest Finn treasure! You seem to have a lot of time in on that one, but you know it just a dime store novel, right?

 

[Five]

Are you declaring yourself fictional novel? Egads...
What does fiction or nonfiction have to do with researching Beale papers?
Are you looking for them in a school library and wanting to know where they are categorized in an index? Or section?

[Beale papers do no say it is fiction!]
Wow. That really clears everything up about there being a dire lack of proof........

I just may be a fictional novel! Let's look at how you guys make your decision of fictional novel, shall we!

There is no proof of any outside collaboration that I am really here, right?

Possible that I could just be a computer spitting out information and not a real person, according to your lack of outside verification of me being a human, right?

I'm an enigma of dire lack of proof?

Lol, lol, lol, lol!
OFLMAO

 

[releventchair]

I just may be a fictional novel! Let's look at how you guys make your decision of fictional novel, shall we!

There is no proof of any outside collaboration that I am really here, right?

Possible that I could just be a computer spitting out information and not a real person, according to your lack of outside verification of me being a human, right?

I'm an enigma of dire lack of proof?

Lol, lol, lol, lol!
OFLMAO

The proof of outside collaboration is in your avatar. And you are here.

Fictional is unsubstantiated. That's all.
Easy to disprove being fictional by presenting peer supported documentation providing fact. "Peers" not being pro or con argument of a case , but those qualified to confirm data.
Qualified not meaning self declared authorities on a website selling books/ seeking funds , but rather those who present facts to be confirmed by review/ fact checks from sources beyond those presenting them for review..

Have you any fact to be reviewed? Who is reviewing it,or would review it?

 

[bigscoop]

Like Forrest Finn treasure! You seem to have a lot of time in on that one, but you know it just a dime store novel, right?

Well geeez, let's compare, shall we.... We know that Forrest Fenn is real, that he really exist. We know we can actually converse with him and gain first hand information. We know that we have actual evidences of the "iron box and treasure" or I mean, "chest and treasure." We know we have "actual letters"....or I mean, "poem". And so on and so on. You see, all of these elements and devices are real, they actually exist, and just to add, we even know exactly who the author is...

All you've managed by allowing your frustration to make this comparison is to further point out that you lack any understanding whatsoever regarding the stark differences between the two and what is fact and what is fiction. Like I said before, "Just keep posting as you are."
(Just don't keep blaming others because you continue to do so.)

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Well geeez, let's compare, shall we.... We know that Forrest Fenn is real, that he really exist. We know we can actually converse with him and gain first hand information. We know that we have actual evidences of the "iron box and treasure" or I mean, "chest and treasure." We know we have "actual letters"....or I mean, "poem". And so on and so on. You see, all of these elements and devices are real, they actually exist, and just to add, we even know exactly who the author is...

All you've managed by allowing your frustration to make this comparison is to further point out that you lack any understanding whatsoever regarding the stark differences between the two and what is fact and what is fiction. Like I said before, "Just keep posting as you are."
(Just don't keep blaming others because you continue to do so.)

INDEED!

 

[Five]

I have "several" books in my collection that are filled with nothing but treasure tales, all of these books being "authentic" works of the various authors, all of the tales being narrated in "second hand" voice, these tales being filled with all manner of various details. NOWHERE is it declared if these books and their stories are present as fiction or true narratives, yet it goes without saying that the vast majority of these accumulated tales are purely fictional in nature, many pf these tales being passed down from one generation to the next and dating back several hundred years. There's even the repeated tale in these books about a certain French party........(and "Ho" is even used in one of them.)

Ok, let's look at each of them one at a time, shall we?

 

[Five]

Well geeez, let's compare, shall we.... We know that Forrest Fenn is real, that he really exist. We know we can actually converse with him and gain first hand information. We know that we have actual evidences of the "iron box and treasure" or I mean, "chest and treasure." We know we have "actual letters"....or I mean, "poem". And so on and so on. You see, all of these elements and devices are real, they actually exist, and just to add, we even know exactly who the author is...

All you've managed by allowing your frustration to make this comparison is to further point out that you lack any understanding whatsoever regarding the stark differences between the two and what is fact and what is fiction. Like I said before, "Just keep posting as you are."
(Just don't keep blaming others because you continue to do so.)

Or, is the author just hoodwinking you into believing his fictional story,
just to gain Fame?

 

[Five]

The proof of outside collaboration is in your avatar. And you are here.

Fictional is unsubstantiated. That's all.
Easy to disprove being fictional by presenting peer supported documentation providing fact. "Peers" not being pro or con argument of a case , but those qualified to confirm data.
Qualified not meaning self declared authorities on a website selling books/ seeking funds , but rather those who present facts to be confirmed by review/ fact checks from sources beyond those presenting them for review..

Have you any fact to be reviewed? Who is reviewing it,or would review it?

An Avatar? Really! You seem dumfounded!

 

[Five]

The proof of outside collaboration is in your avatar. And you are here.

Fictional is unsubstantiated. That's all.
Easy to disprove being fictional by presenting peer supported documentation providing fact. "Peers" not being pro or con argument of a case , but those qualified to confirm data.
Qualified not meaning self declared authorities on a website selling books/ seeking funds , but rather those who present facts to be confirmed by review/ fact checks from sources beyond those presenting them for review..

Have you any fact to be reviewed? Who is reviewing it,or would review it?

The whole world looks at the Pamphlet as true! You don't find it in the fictional area of a library or book store. Just because the WIKI has two failure's as the main source for information, doesn't mean you should be one of them. James Gillogly and Joe Nickell are just the failure's of the past! Don't be like them!

 

[releventchair]

The whole world looks at the Pamphlet as true! You don't find it in the fictional area of a library or book store. Just because the WIKI has two failure's as the main source for information, doesn't mean you should be one of them. James Gillogly and Joe Nickell are just the failure's of the past! Don't be like them!

That's a familiar argument. (The Pamphlet is true).
It is tangible ,therefore it exists ,therefore it is true. Yes. It is tangible. Yes it exists ,therefore it is what it is. Depending who you tell it leads to a real treasure ,it may be perceived as a truth ,or simply a pamphlet claiming a treasure exists.
But by the same token ,if compared to a treasure map (non Beale related) ...what makes it "real"?
It can be accepted as real because it exists. Of course.
How that makes it a real treasure map can be debated many ways. But it producing the/a treasure removes a good portion of argument about it's /it's authors credibility too.