the everything site ...?

[cactusjumper]

Gossamer,

Your post intrigued me, so I looked it up on the Internet. I often do that to see the facts and events that surround a historical statement. No one, that I know, is THAT well read ......except for you, Roy and maybe bowman.

Take care,

Joe

 

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[Gossamer]

HMMMM... again I'm not sure what was said... did you say you agreed with me? Was that a complement, sorry to ask, but I'm getting confused. I gave you the site for confirmation of what I said.
This is a real importamt clue to me, to how the world changed.. so I've been reading everything I could about the super nova event of 1064, for quite a while. In IMHO it was truly a time of 'illumination' for the world. Because of all of the events worldwide that occured during this time, I think people did awaken, what that meant... well hell, I haven't found the book that tells me that. I'm thinking IMO that maybe it 'awakened' a gene or something in our bodies.
Cool thing: the word illumination in my dictionary describes it as 'the play of light across the gold' in illuminated manuscripts.
Love that
Janiece

 

[Oroblanco]

HOLA mi amigos,

Thanks for the compliment Joe! I hope to live up to it.

116 AD hmm....about the only thing I can think of is that a Jewish revolt against Rome failed in this year. What was happening in 116 AD? Thank you in advance,

Oroblanco

 

[Gossamer]

my piont was that this 1064 dose fall near the rotioial shift of that time era ....could be just a freak thing or random event but i dont think so .. the event is lunar related and this culture knew things about the lunar and cele...we wont know for years ..
I feel like I've stepped into the Twillight Zone, but i actually understood what you said BB, that goes along with what I've been studying.
Janiece

 

[cactusjumper]

bb and Gossamer,

It's really hard for those of who are not up on Stargate and the Twilight Zone to add anything constructive to your discussion. However, I do have a question:

If "the event is lunar related and this culture knew things about the lunar and cele...we wont know for years .."

How do we know they knew something that we don't even know exists yet? To have that knowledge, wouldn't we need to know exactly what it is that they knew and thus, what we don't know? If you know this for a fact, why not just tell us exactly what they knew?

I actually did have one other question: How can you quantify that "we wont know for years.."? Isn't it possible that someone will make this discovery in the next thirty minutes, well ahead of the "years' schedual?
If that should happen, would that be a good thing for us, or bad?

Thanks,

Joe

 

[cactusjumper]

bb,

"Thus my discovery of the earth rotional shifts"

Is it your belief that you have discovered a theory of "polar shifts" and all of the accompanying legends out of Mexico and the rest of the world, that relate to that phenomenon?

The story of the sky falling has been around for a very long time, and it's probable source is well known.

Just wondering,

Joe Ribaudo

 

[the blindbowman]

bb,

"Thus my discovery of the earth rotional shifts"

Is it your belief that you have discovered a theory of "polar shifts" and all of the accompanying legends out of Mexico and the rest of the world, that relate to that phenomenon?

The story of the sky falling has been around for a very long time, and it's probable source is well known.

Just wondering,

Joe Ribaudo

...thats just foolishness ..

 

[cactusjumper]

bb,

"...thats just foolishness .."

You could be right. Can you give a brief explanation of why it is "foolishness"? I happen to believe the story is based in facts.

Thank you,

Joe Ribaudo

 

[Oroblanco]

HOLA amigos,

Blindbowman wrote:

CJ i really do want to make chicomoztoc known but not at the cost of the site being looted ...

I may be reading too much between the lines here but in order for a site to be 'looted' such a site would have to have something valuable enough to be 'looted' - correct? So are you saying that there are in fact items of great value (as in cash, dollars, dinero, shekels, pesos, moolah) which are of such a nature that they might be removable? Not that I am about to go try to "loot" them, just curious and will explain. If there are such items/relics/artifacts, then it is reasonable to take steps to ensure their protection. Have you informed anyone in the Forest Service about these items/artifacts and that they are at risk of being looted? It is a very touchy subject with a lot of folks but the danger of looters is very real. If we are talking about megalithic ruins, looters are less likely to carry them away than if there is ancient pottery, jewelry, human remains etc.

Viz- 116 BC - as we are talking about a span or window of time covering perhaps 20-25 years, (and not specifically one particular year) you are dovetailing fairly well with the Mayan prophetic cycles of twenty years (including the one that ends in 2012, which we are about ~16 years into at present) and would certainly include some interesting historical events or incidents. The Mayans believed that time and human events follows cycles that repeat, which I hope is false for the sake of civilization.

As for the Earth doing some unusual rotations, I am convinced this has happened in the past but not necessarily by a complete shift of the crust plates. According to the Egyptians, thousands of years ago the Sun twice reversed its path in a brief span of time, adding that no damage occurred in Egypt at the time but hinting that there were widespread catastrophes elsewhere. Some very odd things have happened in ancient times, heck even the mighty Amazon river flowed the opposite direction at one time so who knows?

Blindbowman I have one more question tonight (I don't want to bug you with constant questions) that is this - did you find some kind of inscription or inscriptions at any of your sites? Something like petroglyphs or pictograms or even heiroglyphs like Mayan or Aztec? I am well aware that the art of writing was supposedly not invented 13,500 years ago, but am starting to doubt this idea as picture-writing is certainly a writing system and this dates very far back indeed.I can't recall if you mentioned anything about finding any inscriptions, except for a date by a tunnel. Even a partial engraving might be very helpful to you. Thank you in advance,
Oroblanco

 

[the blindbowman]

bb,

"...thats just foolishness .."

You could be right. Can you give a brief explanation of why it is "foolishness"? I happen to believe the story is based in facts.

Thank you,

Joe Ribaudo

foolishness can be suported by facts ...lol

the theory is the sky remains a constant reflection of atmosphereic pressure around the earth and remains in a set balance with the rotion of the mass and its orbitial gravity ..as well as the gravity of its own earth mass ..


clouds could fall , the air could get thin .. but the blue of the sky is a condition that can only take place at a set distence from the eye and note color has nothing to do with the structer of the sky it self .. other then our opioions of how the sky looks . the atmosphereical structer never changes enough to say so ... well at least we dont have any real way to messure its changes around the earth all at the same time ..maybe soon we will be able to .. who knows ..?

 

[kanabite]

bb wrote: but one thing i am sure of .. this is Chicomoztoc OK bb i come in here to check on your progress once in a while. i must add that i appreciate the fact that you seem to have moved away from the plan of advertising the exact location of your site in the Phoenix news papers. sorry that part got me and you at different ends of the quest. but i need to ask you , do you really believe it is in one spot,you know all seven in one site? i would be willing to entertain the idea you may have located one of them , and based on some research of someone else that i also believe has found one there is a possibility that one of the places of origin is in fact located in Arizona. but i am sorry i must respectfully disagree that chicomoztoc is located in one place. if you have really located one of them , you know one of the places, or caves, or tombs , or what ever in the heck they are . it should be marked . the marker should be big and there should be no mistaking it for something else.... have you found one of these markers? if you do not know what i am talking about then that will be enough said . but if you do i would like to see a picture of the marker. you want help, you really want people to believe you ? then lets see it. i don't want you to divulge the location. i just want to know. i don't care where it is BB , i just want to see it so i can cross it off the list. there are eight places on the codice, you know seven in the lobes ,and one in the center at the top. i have pictures of four... three of them i took , and one from someone i respect a great deal. there are a few folks on here that know what i am talking about , but do you? i don't want to fight with you , i am giving you an opportunity here to convince me about what you claim. sorry i am not trying to get in the way of your game. this thing is huge if you have found one of them , but i have seen enough to keep me busy forever.///bob

 

[kanabite]

why must you toy with me bowman? you should not take my request so lightly. i am giving you a chance here . perhaps you do not have the picture that i ask for . they are very hard to film

 

[the blindbowman]

why must you toy with me bowman? you should not take my request so lightly. i am giving you a chance here . perhaps you do not have the picture that i ask for . they are very hard to film

figer out the diffrence between a request and a demand and they we may have something to talk about but i dout it ...NA HA

 

[kanabite]

perhaps you are right i did not ask very nicely . must have been the past getting in the way . sorry .... i would very much like to here your opinions about the seven being in one spot, or not .... i would also like to see a picture of the marker that should accompany any one of them, if you have it . it is just a request.

 

[kanabite]

well i will check back on this tomorrow if you change your mind. goodnight bb...... and i hope your brother gets better too. that stuff is hard , but there seems to be lots of folks praying for him so i hope he will be ok

 

[the blindbowman]

CJ

 

[the blindbowman]

yes ,yes ,no ,maybe ,yes ,could have been, na

 

[cactusjumper]

bb,

I would suggest you try another view of the falling sky legend and the explanations of modern-day science to explain the possible truth that may be found there.

You certainly do know your way around the drug world. Dredging up a 3,000+ year old drug to insert into your theories/stories is impressive.

Do you believe you might be the reincarnation of San Pedro, and used the power of the Punku (doorway) to find Chicomoztoc instead of heaven?

Punku must be difficult to find in New York. It is strong medicine, strong enough to make one believe they are a true Shaman. As you know, a true Shaman will use the power of Punku to heal the sick. Have you done that? What method did you use?

Thank you in advance.

Joe Ribaudo

 

[Oroblanco]

HOLA amigos,

Blindbowman wrote:

do you know scott wood , his job is not protecting history . its stoping people from trying to make any clams on goverment lands

Yes I have come to know Scott, mostly via the internet and he strikes me as a pretty nice fellow. His recalcitrance to validating treasure trove claims is mandated from above, not his personal whim. There are powerful folks in the Dept of the Interior, who do not want folks out digging up holes in the public lands; there are others in goverment who hold exactly the opposite view - they would LOVE to see someone find and recover vast treasures, as it brings in a nice fat percentage to the department of revenue as the government share, plus the IRS gets a cut. So one part of government is trying to stop treasure hunters, while another part is only too happy to see you go out and get it - so long as they get their cut! We have to keep in mind that Scott (and many other hardworking Forest Rangers) have had to deal with REAL nut-cases, whackos etc including folks who might be a wee bit dangerous so.... when someone comes to them and says "I have found Chicomoztoc" they have to keep a skeptical mindset as they hear the most outrageous things, from little green men to secret underground bases etc. You have to realize how astonishing it is to hear someone say they have found Chicomoztoc, a place thought by many to be purely mythical in origins - it is like someone saying they have found Shangri-La or Atlantis, they must see solid evidence, photos etc before they can believe it is actually true. I know it is frustrating in the extreme, but it IS possible to get a treasure trove permit, though it will test your patience to the limits and will likely require many photos etc to get it approved. From what you have said about the importance of your sites, it is worth whatever patience, red tape etc that it will take to get the sites verified by government officials and the legal protection they need. Think about what will happen if you do not! With the number of people who comb over the Superstition mountains each year, it is only a matter of time until someone finds them - and the looting begins!

Blindbowman also wrote:

i grew up in the seven caves . they were my home ,would you forget your home ?

I know this was a rhetorical question, but I have no "home" amigo - working to change that situation though.

Blindbowman also wrote:

your right i can not spell or type a clean letter in your reality

I don't recall saying anything about your spelling amigo, I make plenty of mistakes myself. Your meaning is understood well enough, spelling is not that important in my opinion - at least not for us talking amongst ourselves here.

Blindbowman also wrote:

your a funny presons oro .. you try to to under stand this crazy man yet you wonder how crazy is he ....

Well thank you amigo, I will take that as a compliment. I don't believe you to be a "crazy man" however, you are no more crazy than anyone else here. A lot of folks would say that all of us here are crazy, to be going out searching for lost treasures, lost cities, etc is "crazy" to them. I have known a few very crazy people over the years my friend, and I don't mean people who have some quirks or eccentricities - people you would never want in your home, that you would never trust to turn your back to, much less allow to be alone with anyone you loved. Besides, I think we ALL have at least a few quirks and/or eccentricities, just that some of us keep them hidden better!

Blindbowman also wrote:

i seek those that are like me .. yet i have found none of my age . i am 7 and 48 and 300trill ..young ...lol

Are you sure that you have not already found them? Think about it amigo - who are these folks that you are talking to here on T-net after all, but people who have similar interests to you! We may not always agree on everything, but I am positive we have many common interests and similar ideas.

Blindbowman you didn't say whether you found any inscriptions or pictograms, petroglyphs etc - I presume it was an oversight, or perhaps you would rather not say? There are a number of very interesting petroglyphs in the Superstition mountains, many have not been deciphered to this day. You must know how much that would support your case, if you found genuine Aztec heiroglyphics - for who/whom could have faked that? I very much doubt that the Dillmans would have done so, not when they have been on the same quest you have been.

Well this post has gotten pretty long so will close here. Good luck and good hunting Blindbowman and everyone reading this - I hope you all find the treasures that you seek.
your friend,
Oroblanco

 

[the blindbowman]

bb,

I would suggest you try another view of the falling sky legend and the explanations of modern-day science to explain the possible truth that may be found there.

You certainly do know your way around the drug world. Dredging up a 3,000+ year old drug to insert into your theories/stories is impressive.

Do you believe you might be the reincarnation of San Pedro, and used the power of the Punku (doorway) to find Chicomoztoc instead of heaven?

Punku must be difficult to find in New York. It is strong medicine, strong enough to make one believe they are a true Shaman. As you know, a true Shaman will use the power of Punku to heal the sick. Have you done that? What method did you use?

Thank you in advance.

Joe Ribaudo

why would i go all the way to san pedro ,peru for Punku...?

it came from chicomoztoc !

they got that backwards .the punku cactus came from site 4 and was taken to the other 4 locations ...



lol why do you think the nazca drawings were made . they had been driven from their secerd home land and saw their culture comeing to a end . they made then because they would not vanish without makeing their mark so they would be rememberd some day ...

you fail to under stand the turth because you have been force feed the lies ...

the tribes all came from chicomoztoc .....!

inca, mayan,chichimeca ,Azteca they are all cast from the same bloodlines .....i have evidence that dirrectly ties peru to chicomoztoc