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[Jolly Mon]

I am impressed with your research skills.

I wish I had the internet and a comfy sofa back in the day. It would have been so much easier to find wrecks, all the work already being done. And the Angra Bay park, already created... It would had saved me all the trouble I had proposing its creation.

I had no idea the genesis of the Angra park was via your discoveries!

Nor that you were the original proponent of the parks creation!

I mean, after all, people have been snorkeling the Lidador site since before you were born...

Oh, and by the way, I can assure you this would be a much more interesting forum if we all did not have to fear certain repercussions.

Still, an occasional nugget not related to the 1715 or 1733 sites can be gleaned.

 

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[Jolly Mon]

Let me just state for the record that I have no personal animosity towards Alexandre.

I believe him to be both a gentleman and a talented, intelligent archaeologist.

Over the years he has made some terrific contributions to this forum.

He just pisses me off, that's all.

 

[ROBOTCOP13]

That's just because he's European, he can't help it.

 

[Alexandre]

Ah ah ah ah!

I am Portuguese. According to other Europeans, I might as well be Morrocan...

That's just because he's European, he can't help it.

 

[Alexandre]

True. It was a bunch of submerged iron called the "Salt Boat" by local snorkelers.

I managed to find its name, story, building plans, the wreck event and even a painting of her, steaming into the harbour.

I mean, after all, people have been snorkeling the Lidador site since before you were born...

 

[Magoopeter]

On the early days it was not a sin. It was business.

The moral compass then did contemplate slavery was an everyday event. By the way, the word slave comes from the Slavs, white central and eastern european people enslaved since the Greek and Roman times up to the Ottomans.

And until the US Navy bombarded Tripoli, any white person could end up a slave on Barbary coast.

Like treasure hunting then, the sin is Archaeologists pushed most of the people who invested their own time in researching and finding shipwrecks to one side, claiming they were protecting underwater heritage and Culture, when in fact they were only perusing their own academic greatness.

 

[ROBOTCOP13]

On the early days it was not a sin. It was business.[/QUOTE

I think BLM would have a problem with that quote.

 

[Alexandre]

I know. I have my share of proving a lot of wokes wrong.

On the early days it was not a sin. It was business.[/QUOTE

I think BLM would have a problem with that quote.

 

[ROBOTCOP13]

How about slavery was a bad business model and treasure hunting could be a good business model?

C'mon Europe, we're giving you a second chance.

 

[Alexandre]

Slavery made everyone involved, except the slaves, richer.

TH can make some THs survive or enjoy a bit of a good life, until their investors money runs out.


https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...asure-hunting-is-the-world-s-worst-investment

How about slavery was a bad business model and treasure hunting could be a good business model?

C'mon Europe, we're giving you a second chance.

 

[ROBOTCOP13]

I've been an investor for the past 3 years on the 1715 fleet. If my money runs out that's my bad choice but you know what, I know how to manage my money. If and when I decide to move on I welcome another person to step in to my shoes and enjoy the ride.

Why do you assume that people are babes in the woods? Is that really your concern? Or are you coming from the socialist position that government should control everything and knows what's best for every individual?

You sound kind of confused in your argument. Americans accomplish a lot by trusting their own instincts, maybe European haven't been afforded that opportunity to take risks in the business world and develop a "sense" of business.

 

[Alexandre]

You said TH has a good business model.

How much money have you invested and how much money have you made?

I've been an investor for the past 3 years on the 1715 fleet. If my money runs out that's my bad choice but you know what, I know how to manage my money. If and when I decide to move on I welcome another person to step in to my shoes and enjoy the ride.

Why do you assume that people are babes in the woods? Is that really your concern? Or are you coming from the socialist position that government should control everything and knows what's best for every individual?

You sound kind of confused in your argument. Americans accomplish a lot by trusting their own instincts, maybe European haven't been afforded that opportunity to take risks in the business world and develop a "sense" of business.

 

[ROBOTCOP13]

I see my "investment" as what I would probably spend on taking a vacation. A trip to Vegas, a golf trip, cruise, skiing in the mountains, I enjoy the working on the salvage boat, planning the search patterns, modifying equipment (mailboxes) etc.

There is a community of treasure salvage people sharing the marina and when somebody finds something good we all party.

It's a privilege to participate in this business/hobby and there are people that would give their eye teeth to be a part of it.

How much I invest is my business. What we find is the business of the leaseholder and the state of Florida.

We've had success on the boat, hell I've had success on the beach.

Are you truly concerned about my personal success? I'm a retired citizen living comfortably and taking care of myself.

I think being you're European, you're just jealous

 

[Alexandre]

Nah, I was just wondering that you have an hobby, not a business.

 

[ROBOTCOP13]

The thing is Americans can accomplish more in their hobbies than Europeans can accomplish in their businesses.

I wondered if your background was coming from socialism but now I think your attitude comes from fascism.

A strong compulsion to tell (order) other people how to run their lives.

I guess that explains the starting of slavery as a business. Is that a Portugese (Moorish) trait?

 

[Vox veritas]

Bom dia Alexandre (Good morning Alexandre). You have not yet answered your opinion on a social and humanitarian use of tangible goods in the sea. Meanwhile, the price of gold has risen and the value of these tangible assets.

 

[Alexandre]

I have hobbies - I spend money on them and get pleasure from them.

In a business, I make money out of that. TH is only a business for the people milking investors out of their money. If investors enjoy it, then can good for everyone.

The thing is Americans can accomplish more in their hobbies than Europeans can accomplish in their businesses.

I wondered if your background was coming from socialism but now I think your attitude comes from fascism.

A strong compulsion to tell (order) other people how to run their lives.

I guess that explains the starting of slavery as a business. Is that a Portugese (Moorish) trait?

 

[Alexandre]

I am against the selling of underwater cultural heritage.

Bom dia Alexandre (Good morning Alexandre). You have not yet answered your opinion on a social and humanitarian use of tangible goods in the sea. Meanwhile, the price of gold has risen and the value of these tangible assets.

 

[Magoopeter]

I am against the selling of underwater cultural heritage.

In your opinion what is underwater cultural heritage?

 

[Vox veritas]

I am against the selling of underwater cultural heritage.

A tangible asset (underwater cultural heritage) does not need to be sold. It is enough to possess it, that's why it is tangible. At the bottom of the sea it is not tangible.