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You have already included 10% of the country's 1820 population in this grand corporate cabal conspiracy and still no hard irrefutable proof of any "connexion" to Ward's 1885 Beale Papers.
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You have already included 10% of the country's 1820 population in this grand corporate cabal conspiracy and still no hard irrefutable proof of any "connexion" to Ward's 1885 Beale Papers.
Have I? No doubt you have become completely desperate and totally lost.
Perhaps you should retire from guessing and plucking from thin air, maybe spend the required time investigating things in greater depth and detail for yourself. Sometimes you have to go beyond those general ten-minute internet searchers. 
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Plucking from thin air? Guessing?
I think we are on the 5th generation presentation of this theory, and still the flame is not worth the candle.
It is not I, my friend, that is completely desperate and lost, who keeps plucking names and events outside of the Beale Papers to prove the Beale story is true as written.
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Here you go again....NEVER have I stated that the "Beale papers are true as written." Do you even read any of these post?
Look, plain and simple, you are trying to hold some type of meaningful debate on subjects and areas you admittingly know little or nothing about. How can you do that? 
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"Parlor entertainment" using a variety of literary devices in the crafting of this otherwise fictional tale....OK....let's run with that. First order of business is in explaining how this author knew about those two sources of wealth from the Texas region when this information wasn't public until the mid/late 1940's, and there can be no mistaking, he clearly knew about them. So, how did he know? Let's explore this.
Well, he could have read the "highly questionable" memoirs some 60 years prior to their being made public? Or, perhaps he actually spoke with someone who held first hand knowledge of those sources of wealth from the Texas region? Or heck, given enough good health he might have actually been a part of those events himself? So what you say, how did he know, because very clearly, he did know.
You tell me. And if you think this is all I have for you then you are badly mistaken.
Well, he could have read the "highly questionable" memoirs some 60 years prior to their being made public? Or, perhaps he actually spoke with someone who held first hand knowledge of those sources of wealth from the Texas region? Or heck, given enough good health he might have actually been a part of those events himself? So what you say, how did he know, because very clearly, he did know.
You tell me. And if you think this is all I have for you then you are badly mistaken. Rebel - KGC
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"Scoop", if YOU have the info, already... SHOW IT! It just "sounds" like YOU want OUR R & I to "PROVE" YOUR theory...Some will never know, others will, this all being dependent upon their own personal desire to find out. Or, they can spend this same amount of time continuing to attempt to argue points they personally know nothing or very little about. One is a pro-active response, the other is just wasted breath and wasted time with little to no impact either way.
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Show the REST of the info YOU have, ALREADY! YOU have 20-30 years of R & I on this..."Parlor entertainment" using a variety of literary devices in the crafting of this otherwise fictional tale....OK....let's run with that. First order of business is in explaining how this author knew about those two sources of wealth from the Texas region when this information wasn't public until the mid/late 1940's, and there can be no mistaking, he clearly knew about them. So, how did he know? Let's explore this.
Well, he could have read the "highly questionable" memoirs some 60 years prior to their being made public? Or, perhaps he actually spoke with someone who held first hand knowledge of those sources of wealth from the Texas region? Or heck, given enough good health he might have actually been a part of those events himself? So what you say, how did he know, because very clearly, he did know.
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Well, I've been trying to do just that but for one individual who keeps trying to prevent it.
So in fair debate I think I'll give him the opportunity to justify his constant positioning. I can't wait to find out how he determined that J. B. Ward had the writing/language skills to pen the Beale papers? I'm also interested in discovering why J. B. Ward would cover the expense of producing and advertising a dime novel for parlor entertainment for such a small market that it could hardly offer him a profit, if any at all? Things like that. But first I want to know how his author in 1885 knew about the same sources of wealth described in a different publication some 60 years later? I mean if he can actually establish these things, as he claims he can, then I guess I'd be wrong as he also claims and I'd have no reason to continue.
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Franklin, if to this day you actually still believe that there is any chance whatsoever that a party of 30 adventurers went out west and discovered and processed a huge amount of gold and silver, well, hold tight because in just a few months Santa will be coming again.
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DID he...?Well, I've been trying to do just that but for one individual who keeps trying to prevent it.
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NO MO SNOW! NO MO SNOW! NO MO SNOW!Franklin, if to this day you actually still believe that there is any chance whatsoever that a party of 30 adventurers went out west and discovered and processed a huge amount of gold and silver, well, hold tight because in just a few months Santa will be coming again.
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Breezy here today, a lingering chill in the air, leafs are changing color and starting to fall. I stepped outside last night to take a gander at the full moon, a lot of eerie looking dark clouds drifting past, no doubt that those Halloween creatures and monsters will be starting to stir. And then we all know what comes next, all that white stuff and the hunt for the Abominable Snow Man! Who, I believe, is probably French!
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A couple months and the ground will be frozen.
Punch through to soft earth with a spud or pick axe...or build a fire and let it thaw the ground.
Getting to be last call for recoveries here for a while. Hunting season means traffic most everywhere.
Get diggin while you can!
Punch through to soft earth with a spud or pick axe...or build a fire and let it thaw the ground.
Getting to be last call for recoveries here for a while. Hunting season means traffic most everywhere.
Get diggin while you can!
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Speaking of hunting season, our archery seasons opens next week and I was out yesterday driving around in the country and hardly a spot of woods didn't have hunters in it scouting about and setting up tree stands. The bad thing is that the state has now seen fit ($$$$) to include crossbows during archery season which isn't very responsible management for a state that can easily see a hunter in every corner of a 50 yard patch of field or woods. Going to be quite dangerous out there and all for the sake of a buck, no pun intended.
Which brings me to a proposed video production that I've been mauling over, which was my main reason for having taken that drive, not too sure that it's smart for folks to be frolicking around on the ground in the forest with a camera and tripod and backpack sticking over their head with so many crossbows in the woods.
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Mulling over sir, or maybe mauling....
I'll be using a crossbow this year too.
Tried the compound of familiarity repeatedly from wheelchair and performance on my part lacks too much.
Deer find places most folks don't go or lay low till dark usually.
They sidestep traffic fairly well once the game is figured out.
The intrusion you witnessed is a good warning for them.
Safety is always a concern but I get by alright, privacy lacking if digging something up though dents T.H. ing..
A crossbow like a shovel requires practice and understanding of it's over rated ability. Users results will vary.
An arrow can be launched with friction fairly well from it's not energy efficient rail and limbs, and even though accuracy at long range is possible that does not relate to deer who can be counted on to not stay still.
Limits remain for most effective use.
A hunter orange hat should suffice if out and about in the fields pokin around but unseen eyes likely to exist if not moving slow and seeing every thing..
Mid day can see some slack time as well.
I'll be using a crossbow this year too.
Tried the compound of familiarity repeatedly from wheelchair and performance on my part lacks too much.
Deer find places most folks don't go or lay low till dark usually.
They sidestep traffic fairly well once the game is figured out.
The intrusion you witnessed is a good warning for them.
Safety is always a concern but I get by alright, privacy lacking if digging something up though dents T.H. ing..
A crossbow like a shovel requires practice and understanding of it's over rated ability. Users results will vary.
An arrow can be launched with friction fairly well from it's not energy efficient rail and limbs, and even though accuracy at long range is possible that does not relate to deer who can be counted on to not stay still.
Limits remain for most effective use.
A hunter orange hat should suffice if out and about in the fields pokin around but unseen eyes likely to exist if not moving slow and seeing every thing..
Mid day can see some slack time as well.
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Well maybe Ward was sipping a broth made from old bullion cubes while in Grandfather Risque's library, saw a copy of the Adams-Onis Treaty. and decided to incorporate the signing and ratification dates into his tale.
No forged Lafitte memoirs required. 
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The issue here is that many of these hunters only unboxed their crossbows a few days before the opener. "A lot" of inexperienced, overly excited, hunters on these public lands. I have no issues with crossbows but feel their should be a designated season for them given their increased range VS what has generally been considered traditional archery equipment. Here in Indiana hunters are not required to wear hunter orange during the first archery season and the vast majority of hunters don't. Just not a good recipe in terms of insuring a safe and responsible hunting environment. The state maintains a yearly incident report and I fully expect to see an increase in the number of incidents this season.
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Well maybe Ward was sipping a broth made from old bullion cubes while in Grandfather Risque's library, saw a copy of the Adams-Onis Treaty. and decided to incorporate the signing and ratification dates into his tale.
So you're suggesting that the two sources of wealth are referenced in the Adams Onis Treaty? News to me. I must have missed that portion of that treaty document. But at least you're finally considering the possibility that the Adams Onis Treaty just might have a played a part in some way.
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No, just the dates that you have referenced many times before.
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