Hal Croves
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- Sep 25, 2010
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somehiker,
I believe that the maps represent several "lost" silver and gold mines among other things. I have only recently started looking at the story of the LDM, so it is anyone's guess if Waltz was shown one of the mines by a P/M survivor and two companions. There is a good chance that his confession is true. I think that you are at a disadvantage because of your feelings regarding Kenworthy. I have to say that much of his work seems to explain the stones quite well, however I agree that he did not use his own information correctly. Perhaps the presentation Kenworthy made was intentionally flawed to keep things confidential, but accurate enough to sell some books. Anything is possible.
About the Apache... you are correct. It could have been another silver mine, but coincidentally, there are five silver mines represented on the Horse stone. The tracker that was hired followed the Apache into the Salt River Canyon which is North of Globe... Did he go NE or NW? Who knows. If you would and have the time please explain, "BTW:The Salt River Canyon at the heart of the story is not the same river canyon which winds through the Salt River Mountains to the north of the Sups." I am still learning the landscape.
"How would the group which you suspect are responsible for carving the stones,have used them in "ceremonies" ,which I presume are also "secret"? "
Perhaps "ceremonial work" was a poor choice of words. There are secret rituals associated with each of the groups that you mention and they each use similar forms of symbolism to express their beliefs. An encrypted aerial photograph in the form of carved stones seems to fit the idea of the ritual, or the symbolic. How would they use them? I don't know. The whole thing is made messy because of the Tumlinson discovery story. If Travis did not carve the stones, then who discarded them and for what possible reason? In the end I would not be surprised to learn that Travis had carved the stones by simply transferring the imagery from a traditional map which he obtained from his father/grandfather. I just don't have the answer but there are plenty of reasons to suspect a Masonic influence either directly or via a secondary group such as the Mormons.
I believe that the maps represent several "lost" silver and gold mines among other things. I have only recently started looking at the story of the LDM, so it is anyone's guess if Waltz was shown one of the mines by a P/M survivor and two companions. There is a good chance that his confession is true. I think that you are at a disadvantage because of your feelings regarding Kenworthy. I have to say that much of his work seems to explain the stones quite well, however I agree that he did not use his own information correctly. Perhaps the presentation Kenworthy made was intentionally flawed to keep things confidential, but accurate enough to sell some books. Anything is possible.
About the Apache... you are correct. It could have been another silver mine, but coincidentally, there are five silver mines represented on the Horse stone. The tracker that was hired followed the Apache into the Salt River Canyon which is North of Globe... Did he go NE or NW? Who knows. If you would and have the time please explain, "BTW:The Salt River Canyon at the heart of the story is not the same river canyon which winds through the Salt River Mountains to the north of the Sups." I am still learning the landscape.
"How would the group which you suspect are responsible for carving the stones,have used them in "ceremonies" ,which I presume are also "secret"? "
Perhaps "ceremonial work" was a poor choice of words. There are secret rituals associated with each of the groups that you mention and they each use similar forms of symbolism to express their beliefs. An encrypted aerial photograph in the form of carved stones seems to fit the idea of the ritual, or the symbolic. How would they use them? I don't know. The whole thing is made messy because of the Tumlinson discovery story. If Travis did not carve the stones, then who discarded them and for what possible reason? In the end I would not be surprised to learn that Travis had carved the stones by simply transferring the imagery from a traditional map which he obtained from his father/grandfather. I just don't have the answer but there are plenty of reasons to suspect a Masonic influence either directly or via a secondary group such as the Mormons.