Spanish & KGC in the ozark mountains.

[PROSPECTORMIKEL]

I'm gonna vote the Raven:

A raven… The Raven, as the One that shows you the Way, kind. And, He has all your instructions to be followed (as per map) on His beak, between the “hair line” and the pointed-directional beak.
“wise is the one that goes to/through the ‘eye of the needle’ and find the square cross”………….He’s saying.
He also says, the Cross you’re looking for is not in plain sight. It’s imbedded in something, or under something. You may need to “scratch” it out.
The MAP, shows TWO different cache sites. The “key” is to find the “Cross” and the locations are obvious as per Cross doted locations, either NW and SE, or UP/Down on top of each other with a HEAVY slab or rock between them, as chamber divider. (3+ people need to roll/move away a big rock or slab)
All these ‘readings’ will have to be verified in the field, if they still ‘apply’ as accurate, since they have been a lot of “foot traffic” in the area since the original ‘builders’ and artists have left their mark.
Note: 1)…the Eye of the Needle, usually refers to a tight squeeze to a cave entry point, or another tight squeeze within the cave…………..if it has a fake/false double wall, of some sort. (check for patch marks around the edges of Back wall, and/or others)
Note:2)….the Cross, could also be a manipulated bunch of trees and/or their Roots, close to the surface but concealed under heavy rotten vegetation. (imbedded)
A picture of the cave’s floor will have to be “carefully looked upon” even if no apparent signs/marks on them. (eye of the needle….kind of look?)
The rest will have to be examined carefully step by step, …on site and compared with their instructions that will become more and more obvious, as you’ll go in depth.
(p.s. the raven has all the lingo of the Map on his head and body. Their individual location is what you must take in consideration,….when you’all figure the next move)

Maverick, Raven is exactly the bird that I would name. It is clearly a bird of prey, the eye clearly is the most significant spot on it.

Both of the pictures that I have, were taken of other things that were close to it, and both are partially blocked by a couple of trees.

When I get it worked out, I’ll post it on my thread so I don’t derail Oman’s thread.

But all of this is contingent on Weekender and me, being sure that we don’t risk any damage to the monument.... there have been signs, symbols and large monuments damaged,and some destroyed on our site.

A few were damaged between our trips out there.

It pains me to think that one of my “silent readers” may be a spy, or sentinel, that is damaging these irreplaceable pieces of our real history.

Historical monuments are supposed to be protected, even cherished, not destroyed for greed.

Oh, there I go, back on my soap box [emoji403] again.

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[orangeman]

I found some new sign yesterday somebody has added to the bluff rock. Can’t tell if it’s just they’re initials or an attempt to confuse. I’ve often wondered if any of the carving where added to over the years. It would be a good way to make them hard to figure out unless your in know of how they where altered. I’ve heard of many being destroyed or just simply moved to another location. I went up in the valley yesterday looking for signs that hadn’t been destroyed most that where there are gone. The people that destroyed them couldn’t easily understand them so they got rid of them in the fear that someone else would figure them out. The bird is one of them. There’s supposed to be a map rock up in there that a kid just happened to sit on one day 80 years ago when he got lost hunting. No one has been able to find it. They don’t know where to look that’s a good thing because I bet it’s still there.

 

[Maverick1]

No not by a long shot. I know of folks looking for this treasure for the last hundred years. I actually know many of the ones that have tried to find it.

i would give it another hundred plus, give or take. lol,lol
and yes siree...they will keep tryin'.....(human nature?, or ) lol again

 

[Maverick1]

Maverick, Raven is exactly the bird that I would name. It is clearly a bird of prey, the eye clearly is the most significant spot on it.

Both of the pictures that I have, were taken of other things that were close to it, and both are partially blocked by a couple of trees.

When I get it worked out, I’ll post it on my thread so I don’t derail Oman’s thread.

But all of this is contingent on Weekender and me, being sure that we don’t risk any damage to the monument.... there have been signs, symbols and large monuments damaged,and some destroyed on our site.

A few were damaged between our trips out there.

It pains me to think that one of my “silent readers” may be a spy, or sentinel, that is damaging these irreplaceable pieces of our real history.

Historical monuments are supposed to be protected, even cherished, not destroyed for greed.

Oh, there I go, back on my soap box [emoji403] again.

#/;0{>~

P-Mikel, i for one, like your soap box. Monuments are not there to be destroyed.

 

[Maverick1]

I found some new sign yesterday somebody has added to the bluff rock. Can’t tell if it’s just they’re initials or an attempt to confuse. I’ve often wondered if any of the carving where added to over the years. It would be a good way to make them hard to figure out unless your in know of how they where altered. I’ve heard of many being destroyed or just simply moved to another location. I went up in the valley yesterday looking for signs that hadn’t been destroyed most that where there are gone. The people that destroyed them couldn’t easily understand them so they got rid of them in the fear that someone else would figure them out. The bird is one of them. There’s supposed to be a map rock up in there that a kid just happened to sit on one day 80 years ago when he got lost hunting. No one has been able to find it. They don’t know where to look that’s a good thing because I bet it’s still there.

Yeap O-man, it's pretty much what I meant by "foot traffic". And all sites have their "own" story to tell,...before......and after

 

[orangeman]

Maverick you mentioned a snake. . This is one that got relocated to someone’s porch. I did get told where it was originally buy the finder and which way it was pointing.

 

[orangeman]

I agree with mikel history shouldn’t be vandalized I’m more interested in who was here than anything. That what they where up to.

 

[Maverick1]

Maverick you mentioned a snake. View attachment 1515571. This is one that got relocated to someone’s porch. I did get told where it was originally buy the finder and which way it was pointing.

ouch, OUCH,..........OUCH, if that piece is indeed part of the "message monument"....OUCH again, then the key element as position-wise is lost forever. (good luck to any scavenger)
Yes, that should be part of the body of the snake. All information gone. Heritage too. Can you say vandals, again?

 

[orangeman]

I’ve thought of looking for it head. The place it was found is a narrow corridor going up the point of the mountain

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

I’ve thought of looking for it head. The place it was found is a narrow corridor going up the point of the mountain

Dont give up, you will find it. There's other caches to find. Look for a round stone too,while your looking.

 

[orangeman]

Round like a ball. Or flat and round.

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

Round like a ball. Or flat and round.

Round, like a ball, where you think the snake head is located.

 

[Maverick1]

The “porch” rock has a missing piece at 2:00 o’clock, that splits a key symbol in half. I think it was broken off from the rest of the “message” and thus, was left on the other piece.
It had information about “the eye”, and the location of such. (if you can obtain the rest of the piece, from the owner of that porch,(lol)…..you may track the rest of the geographic location of ‘the-eye-of-the-needle’) Some vague eye browse and ½ eye is still visible @ 2:00 o’clock, still.
If the body of the snake was intact it would have been much easier to follow the path way.
However, you must go/look high. There must be some kind of higher up place, or peak (on the snake’s path) that will take you to a flat-round rock that is the cap-rock of a round-ish type of well, or shaft. That (so-called cap-round) rock will not be visible at the surface level. It is concealed by something “clever”. The body of the snake could show, if that was available. (The head is the End, X spot location)
Do you know of any ancient mines in the area? Did any of those mines have an air shaft? Only you can find that out, via research of the area. Good luck, be safe, have fun.

 

[Maverick1]

When/if you find the end location (x) spot, you will also find the snake head ....pointing at your cap rock. Until then, it remains covered under


p.s. In your travels, keep an eye out for the Cross, also. As many markers have been removed or destroyed, ...chances are you'll find a "back up" marker or sign

 

[orangeman]

Thanks for the help maverick and from everyone else. I did find a concealed cave or mine up from where the snake was found. That’ll more than likely be one of the places I study closely. But you’ve given me a clue to a story I was told by an old man finding a deep hole with a ring of rocks around it. What’s funny is my brother found that same hole last year. It’s about a mile and half walk from where the snake was found. I’m going to research this and see if it fits. You’ve given me a different way to think about all this.

 

[Maverick1]

Thanks for the help maverick and from everyone else. I did find a concealed cave or mine up from where the snake was found. That’ll more than likely be one of the places I study closely. But you’ve given me a clue to a story I was told by an old man finding a deep hole with a ring of rocks around it. What’s funny is my brother found that same hole last year. It’s about a mile and half walk from where the snake was found. I’m going to research this and see if it fits. You’ve given me a different way to think about all this.

Glad to be of help. I was just reading the map's instruction. The rest is up to you and your Good Karma in this quest.

It may all fall in place at the same time......in the same place. Just keep an eye out for the details......as per map. GOOD LUCK

 

[orangeman]

Thank you for the insight.

 

[orangeman]

I was looking at my pictures and found more of the snake rock. Thought y’all might like to see them to

 

[Maverick1]

View attachment 1515741View attachment 1515742 I was looking at my pictures and found more of the snake rock. Thought y’all might like to see them to

Amazing craftsmanship, wow. Hats off to our elders.

 

[dog the treasure hunter]

Thanks for the help maverick and from everyone else. I did find a concealed cave or mine up from where the snake was found. That’ll more than likely be one of the places I study closely. But you’ve given me a clue to a story I was told by an old man finding a deep hole with a ring of rocks around it. What’s funny is my brother found that same hole last year. It’s about a mile and half walk from where the snake was found. I’m going to research this and see if it fits. You’ve given me a different way to think about all this.

Good luck orangeman. If and when you do start removing the cap rock,make sure you tie off. The old rim could collapse in and take you sliding down the hole. They have used construction fall harnesses with the fall shock cords on ebay for 20.00 or less.